- AMD Ryzen 7000 mobile series might include 16-core Zen4 "Raphael-H" chips - VideoCardz.com
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Probably just zen4 desktop chip in large form factor laptops with tdp limit, there's already a workstation laptop running 3950x
ID: hh58fhqID: hh5kb37there are many laptops now capable of running 65W out of a CPU
Thanks, Intel!
ID: hh5f2n0My pl1 is 65W. Pl2 110W. That's with an 3 year old 8950HK in an Alienware 17 R5. Granted there are not a lot machines coming out with the old form factor, it should still be doable with a wide area spreaded vapor chamber like a clevo usually uses on the high end models DTR's
ID: hh7iwjeMy laptop processor runs at 82w, i7 11800h at 4.31ghz. Msi gp76 laptop. I applied a small overclock and .065mv undervolt in the bios.
ID: hh3wfn6I think the same.
ID: hh7d9icUnlikely since the desktop chips with the seperate io dies have terrible idle power draw. This will be a laptop SKU or a desktop xxxxG SKU that has integrated graphics as well. As denoted by the -H which is usually reserved for those types of dies.
ID: hh7n225have terrible idle power draw
These are either workstation laptops or heavy gaming laptops. They last just 2-3hours on power, battery life ain't the sellin point of these. A comparable gaming laptop running the 11980hk's got a tdp of 65w and draws up to 100w during boost. There's 0 idle power consideration in those
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Desktop CPUs from 45W to 105W, think that we will have how many cores and treads per chip?
An Athlon Warhol desktop CPU be cool!!! 🙂
ID: hh3gqe2An Athlon Warhol desktop CPU be cool!!! 🙂
I'm not even sure what you mean that should have, spec-wise. Though of course it won't be Warhol (I'm guessing you meant Raphael), it will have a different name.
ID: hh3zf9xOk! Then what do you think of a V-cache line-up like!? ( with V at the end ) Example:
( 4c 8t ) 6300 V / ( 6c 12t ) 6600 V / ( 8c 16t ) 6800 V / etc...
...Or use the Ryzen 6000 series Non-V-cache and have the Ryzen 7000 series with the V-cache???
ID: hh4dfpwI wish they could just refresh the 5300G into Athlon. I'll take a 4300G if that doesn't happen
ID: hh4g5xe45w to 140w. I read somewhere that AMDs next socket will support up to 140w. Unless I misunderstood you, then just ignore me then.
ID: hh4sx8sI heard it was up to 180 watts
ID: hh4oukaYou have a point, see AMD has not officially confirmed the CPU line-up, for all we know 16cores may not be the Max CPU core number!?
We will have to wait to for official news on that...
Till then its just speculation, maybe!?
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It's been a long road to get to a CPU with a decent gpu on board.
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Not too long ago we finally got 8 cores CPUs in high performance laptop CPUs. Q1 2023 will be the best year to upgrade CPU and GPU for sure.
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Far more interested if it will have the same amount of L3 cache (including V cache if any) as desktop Raphaël.
ID: hh3dauwIt should use the same chiplets, I think that's the point. V-cache, let's wait and see.
It's an interesting thought, though. If AMD is planning Raphael with V-cache from the get go, it's certainly possible that there will be a mixed family with both V-cache and without.
ID: hh3wm65Mobile series are monolithic, so they would manage to make chiplet and i/o die work without breaking tdp limit.
That would be a new chapter in their engineering book right ?
ID: hh3dulmMaybe an Athlon class of chips without V-cache???
ID: hh4jq3cChiplets on mobile are a huge no-go. Current breed of chiplet-based ryzen CPUs consume upwards of 34W under idle. Ryzen is only efficient during load which saddens me greatly. Due to my setup, my computer idles at almost 100W which is a bit ridiculous (CPU + 6800XT + X570s + PSU power loss). CPU stays at 25 W PkgWatt and only 1.2W CorWatt. GPU maxes out VRAM clock due to differing monitor refresh rates (60 Hz + 165 Hz) and stays at around 34 watts.
ID: hh63n01I don’t believe Zen 4 is launching with v-cache. The last I checked, they can’t yet do it on N5, not because of anything technical, but because TSMC hasn’t expanded to N5 yet. My information is out of date, however, so I could be wrong.
It may also be in AMD’s interest to hold Zen 4 c-cache until Intel refreshes it’s lineup.
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This might stack up nicely vs the m1 pro/max chip
To be fair, i hope amd can pull the ressources and use chiplets to it's maximum on laptop (separated cp
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At 65 watts, isn't this just putting a desktop chip inside a chunky laptop and hope for the best with cooling? Wouldn't be the first time we see a 65 watts tdp CPU is inside a laptop.
ID: hh7lklzProbably something like that, but I'm expecting we might see a few more designs with 16 cores this time, in part thanks to the iGPU now being available for the desktop parts too.
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Raphael H is my name 😮
ID: hh4ufm8Tell us about your clocks. And birthday date.
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wonder how they will perform compared to apple new m1 pro max
ID: hh5i3dspower consumption as well
ID: hh65q8hLots more power consumption but it will run Windows and Linux soooo...
ID: hh6utn0It'll cost 1/3rd the amount, draw more power, tie-ish on CPU, and get its ass kicked on GPU.
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Considering Apple just threw out a banger. I'd say this is required to not be left behind the way Intel has
ID: hh6umwwIt doesn't matter to many people as ecosystem precludes comparison shopping from one to the other. Add in cost delineation being a HUGE factor now. To get the top-end Apple chip you have to spend $3,500. Only businesses will be buying these in any real numbers.
ID: hh66k1mIntel's more equipped to compete with Apple laptops than AMD is in the near future. Alder Lake's new architecture and 14 cores on a laptop should match the M1 Pro/Max in raw CPU performance.
Zen 4 may change things, but it's not expected for another year.
ID: hh6lj0hAlder Lake's new architecture and 14 cores on a laptop should match the M1 Pro/Max in raw CPU performance.
That will not be a popular comment on other subreddits. Was finding more information about new AMD CPUs for laptops in 2022, I was instead stricken with the constant bombardment of "AMD and Intel is dead, lol".
But, how would a 14-core benefit that much in a laptop? Seems like more of a power issue that I'm concerned about rather than performance.
ID: hh7nw68CPU performance isn't the main issue. M1 performance cores are FAST, but they are also power hungry. Next generation Intel and AMD products should compare quite well against that.
The real issue is the GPU. There's nothing on the horizon from Intel or AMD that even has a chance of coming close to what Apple has to offer. It's simply nuts.
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You are just pissing it all away.
That would get me to upgrade my laptop before its refresh cycle...paired with a fast enough GPU I might actually retire my desktop then. That would be damn amazing. But, AMD has to do this one right. The Advantage program has been a joke outside of HP. Also, only HP has the correct IO port setup to use something like this (mDP+HDMI on dGPu for proper display spanning, USB-C on iGPU for Alt-DP mode) for docking station support and such.
AMD you really need to get your house in order before something like this drops. If Intel starts to drop that kind of core spread when you do, and if your partners are shit like they are all today (
/comments/q32ch2/asus_violates_amds_advantage_program_with_g15ae/)" class="reddit-press-link" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.reddit.com//comments/q32ch2/asus_violates_amds_advantage_program_with_g15ae/)P.S I will not be doing your job for you again. That Asus bullshit was the last time, you can burn with your future mistakes moving forward.
P.S I will not be doing your job for you again. That Asus bullshit was the last time, you can burn with your future mistakes moving forward.
Get over yourself.
get over the fact I literally did their job? No, you.
who is he talking to? AMD, Asus, the clouds?
lol. Can't help but think someone at AMD is a "That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime" fan
Wow
Gimme gimme
WTF is wrong with the people who are naming this stuff
they've had a historical artist naming scheme going for the last 3 years
Engineers aren't very creative when naming things
rimeru san
if it´s this.......8+8 u know...
引用元:https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/qajgum/amd_ryzen_7000_mobile_series_might_include_16core/
5950X works great at 65W custom power limit. 45W wouldn't be a stretch, and there are many laptops now capable of running 65W out of a CPU