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An Update on Assassin’s Creed Infinity and the Future of the Assassin’s Creed Franchise
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Kinda sick of games becoming a constant drip feed of low impact content for the sake of milking people on a long term scale. Can't see this being an improvement.
ID: h4czld9ID: h4d089gNot to mention that the game is just inherently more shit when it's specifically designed around this as its core aspect.
Look at FO76 and compare it to FO4. It's 1/8th of a game with 'multiplayer' expected to fill in the other 7/8ths.
So in the end the game cost them basically nothing to develop and they were just able to rake it in from MTX.
Nobody cared that Fallout would be an inherently shit game for becoming multiplayer, or that the dead/empty/meaningless world they created was awful.
But Bethesda probably are not going to look back, why spend all that effort making an in depth SP game when you can earn even more making a half assed MP game?
ID: h4d71tkYeah the whole "live service" thing just isn't for me. No matter how much content a game has, eventually I get bored and want to move on to something else.
Having no end goal in sight just means I won't bother starting in the first place.
ID: h4dngbpI just picked up Anthem for $4 during the PS sale. not only is that a clear indicator of how poorly that particular live service performed, but it was also $3 more than I would ever recommend paying.
If this is what all live service games are devolving into then I am just not interested at all. there are far better games available and this live service shit needs to die quickly.
It isn't the worst game i've ever played and it has some fairly scarce moments of fun. You can tell, however, that the game was built around this drip feed premise because there is almost no content from beginning to end. you shoot the same 5 enemy classes, perform the same 3 types of missions, and have no way of really customising the look of your javelin besides the few "featured store" purchases you can either grind for, or purchase with crystal or some shit.
this isn't necessarily a problem as loot based games have existed for years and even in games like Borderlands, Diablo, and Destiny the enemies and "quests" are all very similar. The big difference though, is that the core mechanics of fighting enemies and finding new loot is fantastic in those games. whereas in anthem, the gunplay can get tedious, the loot is subpar at best, and the locations are all just outdoor areas with trees, or a few caves that all look identical. also in the aforementioned trio of games, you can customise the look of playstyle of your character so dristically that you never get bored of finding new loot, even if it is just for Transmogs.
ID: h4d0f7zLive service is a huge cancer in gaming.
ID: h4eq9d1Its just the reincarnation of the MMORPG trend from about 15 years ago and it will eventually die off in similar circumstances.
Tragedy of the commons isn’t a new concept and theres only so many “MMORPGs/Subscriptions/Live Services the market can sustain.
ID: h4czi0sI agree but so long as UBI continue to make the "normal" AC games I can't blame them for testing the water. There is just to much money involved with microtransactions.
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Assassin's Creed Infinity? I'm getting Fallout 76 vibes.
ID: h4cs1cwAssassin's Creed dies.
ID: h4cwwkoAll depends if they intend on keeping the proper AC games aswel.
ID: h4cmxioYou're not wrong, it is cited to be a live service game. And this blog post just confirmed the title which was stated in the initial report.
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Games like this are never good because they start with the goal of making a game which extracts the maximum amount of money from the player rather than starting with the goal of making a fun game which people would want to buy.
ID: h4dlvvzWell said.
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can someone explain how exactly this will work? so instead of making sequels, they make one game that keeps getting updated? I just can‘t imagine how this will work…
ID: h4dy0n3They make one modern day protagonist and make the modern day work like a 'hub'.
Introduce new DNAs, new settings, characters and regions that you just go into from the Animus located in the modern day hub. Maybe move from hub to hub when new DNA strands are found.
That's how I would do it, at least.
ID: h4e0u82makes sense now thank you!
ID: h4e1choIt seems to be similar to the Destiny 2 model where there's an initial release with an initial story, then, seasons add their own storyline which lead up to major expansions (similar to new games), which bring new environments or alter old ones, and the process repeats
ID: h4e32pgyes i see thank you! seems interesting in a way but I don‘t have much faith in Ubisoft to make it amazing 🙁 hopefully it will be good
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All I want is another single character, single story, action open-world AC without too much RPG and bloat.
Is that too much to ask for?
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Didn’t they say Assassin’s Creed had an endgame back when 3 came out.
ID: h4cuqmbThe series was originally only supposed to be a trilogy.
Decided to milk the cow perpetually though.ID: h4e08nzConsidering that by the end of the trilogy there had been 5 games, I really feel we should have seen that coming haha.
ID: h4cw0ni3 was originally suppose to be the endgame but then the ubisoft execs decided to split AC2 into 2 games (brotherhood was originally suppose to be all a part of 2), saw that it worked for massive profits and adopted the annual format.
This was why they killed off Lucy (Kristen Bell) in brotherhood. As it was suppose to be AC 1 - 2 - 3 without any filler titles and she was contracted for only 3 games to do a trilogy.
All in all I like where the franchise went in general. Story went to shit obviously which is to be expected when a trilogy plot switches hands constantly and spread out through almost a dozen titles, but the settings and games are always good enough for me to warrant a purchase. In terms of open world level design, Ubisoft is top tier imo.
ID: h4du17iIf that's true that kind of blows my mind because Ac2 was long enough and Brotherhood didn't feel like filler at all.
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Halo Infinite and Assassins Creed Infinity, I see a trend starting here
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Whelp... Press F to pay respects to Aasasin Creed. Abother one bites the dust. Poor fellow, all he wanted was to go to Japan and pretend to be a Samurai. Never got his dream before getting crushed by Greedy Executives.
ID: h4dbmiyI'm still pissed this never happened. Guess I should just play Ghost of Tsushima and call it a day.
ID: h4ds73uTo be fair, Ghost of Tsushima is a better AC game than actual AC games nowadays.
ID: h4dhc5lPretty great game. Definitely play it. Ubisoft may go to samurais once this Infinite bullshit flops harder than a Magickarp
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RIP Assassin's creed.
Desmond milles, you will never be forgotten.
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Wait, what? I just want to play a normal Assassin's Creed singleplayer game. A full game! That's all i want.
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Can't wait to not play this.
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Massive F to AC. Fuck Ubisoft
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If they keep it as scenarios or something to that effect, by all means go for it. I think each game is unique enough where they could reuse previous assets and players load in to a battle royale-size map of Venice, Greece, England, etc for different squad mission types. That sounds really cool, like it could stay fresh and they could use it as a testing ground for different eras for main games. It would be sick if they even had some kind of "Commander" role where they would essentially create the level as far as guard postings, buffs, etc.
But its Ubisoft and I have a feeling it won't be that. I foresee unnecessary customization on the same three weapons, connection issues, and more. I'll hold judgement til I play it though.
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Ubisoft is such a huge developer, they have the resources to create literal GENERATIONAL defying game of the year quality games.
But nope. Cash grab after cash grab.
ID: h4dljgeAss grab. Lol.
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I guess I better enjoy finishing Valhalla...looks like another one of my favorite franchises is dead.
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Youtubers/twitch streamers for gods sake treat this shit like battlefront 2 so we can get past it already
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These greedy bastards want to sell you an unfinished game and get all their money before they commit to the full scope.
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I’m interested. If done right it can be a lot of fun.
ID: h4cp1kkYeah. Big if though. More likely to be a money grab inundated with a bunch of morons ruining everyone else’s experience
ID: h4czumiIt will be a money grab regardless. People shouldn’t expect any less I mean just look at the storefronts in odyssey and Valhalla. Hopefully it’s fun but I shan’t be touching it with a ten foot poll
ID: h4d5ppuHard to tell when we have 0 information. I'll wait and see.
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Whatever.
Just give us that 60fps patch for Odyssey and Origins on PS5 First.
Give us that and you can do whatever Assassin's Creed Eternity or Assassin's Creed Posterity.
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I have no idea how this will turn out but it sure sounds like the death of Assassin's Creed to me. It's been a long time for me playing these games. Got my PS3 specifically for the first one and now here we are.
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Really enjoyed the last two games, don't care what Ezio's widows on the internet have to say. The direction they took the games this past years has been successful on the financial side and creating a bigger player base, hope they're making good decisions for the franchise. Just wait and see how things end up being.
ID: h4d70tdI have generally enjoyed the historical RPG direction they took it in. I have a ton of hours in Odyssey and Origins, loved both of them.
Valhalla was a big swing and a miss for me though. It's a shame because I love Viking lore and history, but the game is just meh. It runs well and looks pretty on PS5, but just felt soulless and the gameplay loop was tedious. Typical Ubisoft game in so many ways. It makes me a bit concerned about future AC games, they won't be day 1 for me after Valhalla.
ID: h4d7j7vAgree 100%, for me Odyssey was the height of the "modern" AC games.
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My dream scenario for a live service Assassin's Creed game is that the PvP multiplayer of Brotherhood returns as a perpetual game mode. The reality will probably be just another Odyssey/Valhalla with a larger world map and 10 times the microtransaction packs. Oh, and every brick and mortar has their own special edition, as is tradition.
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No one wants this. Ubisoft is completely tone deaf.
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I am interested although I feel this has been tried a million times already with the GAAS approach and it landed hard while milking the gamers being a lose-lose. If this succeeds it can be a lot of fun and I would be willing to invest money on a regular basis if the game hooks me up and most importantly: is worth it.
Lets wait and see 🙂 I am always up for trying new ways, experiments and approaches.
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Live service games aren’t my cup of tea but I’ve had plenty of fun with the AC franchise so I can move on from it w/o issues. Now I just hope they don’t do this with the open-world Star Wars game that’s rumored to be in development at Ubisoft.
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after III that's the end for me playing this franchise.
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This is a follow up to the Bloomberg article posted earlier today.
I keep forgetting Assassin’s Creed isn’t bounded to the original theme anymore so I don’t even know what to expect from this except mini Assassin’s Creeds inside 1 big hub Assassin’s Creed with possibly more grindy shit.
With that said, I also believe Ubisoft is innovative enough to create something of interest with games as a live service. Most of them from my memory have been absolute trash, but I think maybe they can do something interesting with the AC series
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Ubisoft, innovative??? Whats is this 2004
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Imagine thinking Ubisoft is innovative.. the company where 90% of their game revolves around the same damn features.
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I mean, Assassin’s Creed 3 and 4 both had their own uniqueness to them.
Origin and Odyssey literally have a tour guide discovery mode and a lot of people love the map design itself.
I never said they’re leading in innovation, I said they can possibly provide an innovative approach to games as a live service or whatever tf it’s called lol
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If you read the orginal Bloomberg article, no where does it say this is a an MMORPG or anything like an online real-time multi-player game like Fortnight or anything. It really outlines a larger cohesive platform for all future games - which may take on different forms - to be integrated and linked together for a united plan/overall story. Maybe parts will be MMO, but this feels much larger and more comprehensive than that - like a way for Ubisoft to build a whole cohesive AC universe with different media and games/game styles, all tied together. The article even touches on that a bit. I think people saying this is MMO/Fortnite-like aren’t really reading the story correctly.
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So more of a recent-Hitman kind of ongoing-framework, potentially?
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Nah, I'm good Ubisoft
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Booooooooooooo
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Y’all act like you don’t spend hundreds of hours and dollars in games like Destiny 2 and GTA Online. If you don’t want games like this to be made stop enabling developers to make them. Otherwise this is to be expected. In the end Ubisoft is a business and all businesses follow where the money is.
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Hop in the Animus, and go play in any time period you want!
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This doesn't fill be with confidence. I often found even old-style AC games too long sometimes (at what, 30 hours), and I understand the modern games like Odyssey and Valhalla are already 100+ hour behemoths which is just way, way too long for where I'm in my life right now. A live service game with no definied duration at all, just nebulous "content", is not particularly appealing.
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Ayyyy, you may like Roman's, vikings, egyptians, and the assassins creed formula: but that doesn't make those games any less copypasta money grabs!
It has been said many times before, but fuck ubisoft!
Instead of this they should take the time to develop assassins creed games proper, instead of pump and dumping a new one every year or two. Launching with bugs and hiding the best content behind mtx and paywall dlc is unacceptable and we have to show them!!
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Luckily there are plenty of games that aren't Assassin's Creed coming out so we don't all have to be mad about this making them a billion dollars and becoming the new Ubisoft model.
Personally, I liked Valhalla and Odyssey. I wouldn't touch an Assassin's Creed Fortnite clone with some one else's nine foot pole. But there's enough coming out that it's fine, and Ubi will survive without my money. My backlog alone makes this a non-issue.
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AC is now 10 miles wide and an inch deep, got it
引用元:https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/ofimg5/an_update_on_assassins_creed_infinity_and_the/
Yeah I don’t have time for all these live services. I just want to buy a game, play it, and then move on. Not spend £70 just to keep having to spend more, even if it’s free it will be riddled with microtransactions. Oh well I think this was expected.