- IT has been 1 YEAR and two months and this was the first and only driver with Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling from AMD....21.5.1 beta
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It was actually 20.5.1
ID: h60tbitID: h626fclSoz
i was actually trying to make it sound more dramatic
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UWP drivers have HW GPU scheduling
ID: h60i0ykBeat me too it.
Here is a link to download them. They also support WDDM 3.0.
ID: h627e3rYou can also get the software directly from Microsoft Store.
ID: h614aiwI have the version 30.0.13000.22008 driver installed through Windows Update on the latest Windows 11 build (used with a 5700XT). The driver itself may support hardware accelerated GPU scheduling but it doesn't show up in the Windows settings under Display/Graphics and GPU-Z shows it as off, even if the registry value for it is set manually.
ID: h61k2ozworks for me on win10
ID: h622i6bBecause windows 11 i think, same issue here.
ID: h622dfvSounds like a bug, mine shows fine.
ID: h61ve0pWhat are uwp drivers?
ID: h61zadaUniversal Windows Platform. It's the version of the drivers you can get through the Microsoft Store.
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As someone who uses an Nvidia card, trust me when I say this, you aren't missing anything. Don't panic thinking there is an amazing 100% performance increase there, you aren't missing out.
ID: h621z4pNvidia GPUs since the 900 series are lacking a hardware scheduler though, so I don’t think it would have done anything no matter what…
ID: h6288hyThis is different feature. Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling and Hardware Scheduler for the GPU are not the same.
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did you read an article saying this scheduling method actually made anything better?
last time i tried it out it didnt do much of anything for games.
ID: h60b4viNot sure what its like on AMD, but on Nvidia its pretty hit or miss. It either does nothing real (maybe can measure if you spend all day comparing benchmarks) or your game crashes now. Inconsistent about it, too.
ID: h60krcyOr in the case of batman Arkham Knight causes the game to have horrific stuttering.
ID: h60ck4pwerd. im on a 3090, mine didnt have crashes by a 1% or so difference means nothing.
ID: h60wf6pThe thing that bothers me . .is that people have this impression that it was ever intended for games .. its not.
AMD already uses hardware scheduling and thus this did nothing for them, nVidia does or at the time didn't and so it does fix multi display issues or any other issues where the GPU is forced by windows to run Vram clocks lower than is required by a multi display setup.
Eg windows forces Vram clocks to the lowest required by the slowest refresh rate panel so on 60hz/144hz setups the 144hz panel would cause crazy amounts of stuttering on the 60hz panel and vise a versa, the cause .. the windows scheduler for the GPU was forcing the Vram to a clock speed to support only the 60hz panel. This of course caused issues when the 144hz panel was used for an application not in fullscreen exclusive and tried to change the Vram clocks.
HW GPU scheduling solves this problem by allowing the GPU to set its own Vram and core clocks rather than having the WDDM do it.
I know im glossing over some details here but with out HW GPU scheduling turned on my multipanel setup is a stuttering mess, personally if I had known about the 60+144hz issues I would have bought two 144hz panels over a 60hz 4k and 144hz 1440p.
The 4k is pretty much a pointless panel ..its not even good at movies and its HDR is .. fucking horrible, waste of money, another 144hz panel would have been better.
Edit - so many people in this thread complaining it does nothing for games .. well duh, it wasn't for games.
ID: h60xsuxI wonder how Linux drivers handle this kind of stuff. Obviously talking only about AMD and Intel here, Nvidia has its own non standard secret sauce.
ID: h60yoafNo, just no.
It's not hardware scheduling, it's hardware memory management.
ID: h60ype0Out of curiosity what is your 4K panel you are so unhappy about?
ID: h6167eiif only you had a CX lg tv instead. not 144hz but the hdr is lovely
ID: h6235o4FYI the differeing monitor hz was a separate fix and not related to the hardware scheduling option. It was just in the patch that added the option to windows. But people had tested and found it fixed without hw scheduling enabled.
ID: h628qz6Microsoft themselves say that for now nothing changes, but the feature is important for how Windows will interact with the GPU in the future.
It also seems to lower the CPU overhead in games,which is always a good thing.
ID: h60d33jin some cards it gave a bit of a boost (even on my 5700xt). Being it good or not, the option should be there. They just released a beta driver more than a year ago and called it a day....not cool
ID: h60ddg5I mean, if it was ready for prime time it would be out in a normal release.
ID: h60fzykOr maybe it is cool? b e t a
ID: h624yyjThis is a placebo effect, same can be said in the case of people trying to run SAM on anything earlier than RDNA2.
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Probably better without it. Hardware accelerated GPU scheduling introduced micro-studders with both my 1080ti & RTX 3090. Doesn't seem to improve anything in a noticable way either.
ID: h617r8yAMD has a different scheduler compared to Nvidia. They already do a ton of scheduling on the HW side and if I remember Microsoft's feature, it basically is barely more than AMD does already.
ID: h61h5lkYet again a misconception about how scheduling works between AMD and Nvidia.
I don't want to explain it again. But the differences aren't anything to do with hardware scheduling.
ID: h610bfdYeah I was super disappointed on my 3090 due to overzealous hype.
ID: h61sl7kYea clickbait YouTubers had a field day with it.
"Faster gaming for FREE - Hardware GPU scheduling explained"
~ Linus Tech Tips
ID: h61htn2I use it on my 1080, no difference whatsoever
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What do you feel you're missing out on?
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What is this exactly ?
ID: h60rpguUniversal Windows Platform drivers
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Can somewone explain or point me to a explanation on what is the difference between the hardware scheduler that nvidia dropped with the 900 series (or 700 can't remember for sure) that cause the difference in cpu overhead between the nvidia and amd driver in dx12 and vulcan and the windows hardware scheduler talked here. I am a lil lost, thanks.
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Its supose to reduce latency that is why it was added, it should've been added already however its in quite early stage, im sure the true benefits will come when we have direct storage
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It didn't do anything
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Yeah, what gives? I was wondering this myself for a while. Thanks for posting.
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I was downvoted repeatedly for telling everyone last year that this feature wasn't really useful or exciting... Well, what did y'all learn after it was finally available?
The loon likes to say "I told ya so."
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Not sure if it does much but I am surprised people are still using standard driver and not DCH . I very much doubt windows 11 will even support standard.
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It doesn't do anything really, does it? I haven't ever seen anything to suggest the setting does anything worthwhile.
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Right now, you're litteraly not missing out on anything. AMD or Nvidia.
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Mmmm cpu usage is higher with nvidia, and the performance is lower if you have a cheap cpu so... i prefer to keep it this way xD
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How did they break your display?
What display and how did they break it?
Yeap, obvious mistake. Soz