Let me start this off by saying that I've been incredibly lucky in the start of this wipe, and have managed to obtain 2 found in raid RSASS. I found the first three days ago and thought that I wouldn't sell it, I'm going to need it for gunsmith after all. I did check the price on the flea after I unlocked it, ~450 000. Tempting, but no. Then I killed a player for another just last night and decided to sell the first one, but it turns out that I couldn't.
The flea was having some problems last night so I thought it was just a temporary hickup but it is starting to look like it isn't.
Why do I feel like this change was made as an afterthought to slow down progression? That would be fine by me, but... the fulltimers already benefited from being able to sell / buy one on the flea. Dayjobbers are the ones that suffer for this particular change.
Have you noticed anything else that isn't available to be sold on the flea? Aside from the things mentioned in the patch notes:
e: The list of newly banned items (
I understand the reasoning for most of these, but I'm pretty surprised the 5.56 mdr got banned. It was pretty much just a worse m4, but it was cheap and easy to mod which was the only reason I would ever buy it usuallyID: hoxtmrr
which is why it was removed.ID: hoxxss0
As someone with a Standard Account who hates Questing the most when it comes to things i dislike about the Game, these Changes realy fuck me hard.
In the past i could just ignore the Trader if i dont wanne suffer through the Quest, but now i dont have much of a choice if i want decent Armor and specific Weapons.
I get why they change things up, but i dont know if i like it overall. The Chads are already close to max Traders anway.
I understand every weapon except rsass and the 556 mdrID: hoxx940
RSASS is only expensive on flea because of gunsmithing part 87 or whatever. They don’t want you to be able to buy it to get past that. Which makes sense imo, it’s so late in the quest lines that you should have plenty of time to check marked rooms.ID: hoxzirz
I don't remember ever seeing a RSASS in raid, so that's that quest out the window for me.
Edit: scratch that, one of the Trader sells it at some point. It'll get done eventually then.ID: hoy26wy
ye i dont get the 556 mdr ban, it was a niche and underused weapon
One of these is not like the others, I mean come on... 556 MDR is banned from flea?
Why I ask you, why? Leave the 556 MDR alone and ban M4A1+416.ID: howvciv
Well the M4 is literally a lvl 1 trader weapon as barter and lvl 2 as a money trade and you can get peacekeeper lvl 2 before flea so removing it from the flea is stupid.ID: howytxd
Yeah but why the 5.56 MDR. The only good thing about it is that it's cheap on the fleaID: hoxg8w3
The only way I’d reason it is that they banned weapons that would be exotic/valuable in a fallen Russian city. Like G28, Scar, MDR, RSASS are all very limited while ak’s and USEC M4s are more common.
gameplay wise… meh
A little confused why the 5.56 MDR isn't listable on the flea. I quite like that gun but don't consider it unbelievably good without expensive ammo. I can understand the choice to remove the 7.62 variant though.ID: hoy9o78
I feel the same. I love the baby MDR, but with what it costs in ammo to be effective I might as well spend a little extra and kit out an M4 which just feels superior in almost every way. The 762 is an awesome gun besides the 20 round restriction when you can run a few other 762 options with larger magazines. Even 30 would make a difference--if you're in a full auto with the 762 MDR you're basically spending half the fight reloading.
Wow i can't wait to use an sks till lvl 30 now
Locking a weapon on the FLEA only to not let us buy for a quest is really sad
The KS-23, 9x39 SP-6, and BNTI GZHEL just got banned from the flea as well.ID: hoy9sai
I'm pretty sure the GZHEL was banned from the flea in the initial patch notes. It's one of my favorite midgame options and I remember seeing that.
Soo how the fuck do we do Gunsmith part 6?ID: hoxsuge
Peacekeeper sells a RSASS after one of the quests, but it's really far down his quest line and requires max loyalty IIRC.ID: hoypnd6
It’s level 4 after Spa Tour part 6 or 7. That is easily a level 30+ quest even if you’re rushing Peacekeeper.ID: hoyxywk
If it’s anything like the rest of their brain dead quest design, you’ll be able to buy a RSASS after turning in a RSASS.
I feel like not enough people are talking about needed to sell 50m roubles worth of items to get your 3rd flea market slot
Just ban the entire flea market. They clearly don't want it in the game.
They literally do stuff like this every wipe. Have the flea or spawns or whatever "normal" then change it so it's harder so people don't "rush through the game", bit only after the people who rush have rush passed, and it only widens the gap between casual and play it like a job people
Well they just killed of the 7.62 MDR, not paying $1300 for it. The mutant is fine since it's usually the cheapest from skier but why both MDRs? Trader prices are already too high on like 50% of the weapons.
Edit: they need to decided what they're going to do with the flea soon. These changes only hurt casual players. It won't effect me as I play this game a ton but I can already see my casual friends getting angry about this.
I have no issues restricting the flea, but traders need to be heavily reworked then. I mean what % of the player base even hits level 40?ID: hoya9pt
Some of these traders prices are so bad... why would I pay peacekeepers 1300 usd for a lvl 4 osprey? Or 1300 for the scar h? You can get the same or better items from other traders for even cheaper.
Are they trying to remove the flea? The end game ammo and armor i fully understand and actually like, but guns seems very odd
I noticed that this sub seems to be very hostile to people who don't have the same amount of time to play the game as them so I doubt most people on here would even mind let alone think of this as an accessibility thing.
So wait, you ban the 5.56 MDR, but not the M4, or the RPK? You ban the RSASS, but not the SR-25?
And let me guess, Killa armor, Tagilla armor, both welding helmets, Gzhels, and maska's are still available to buy and sell, right?
Dude this is just dumb now. I can't buy a fucking 556 mdr? I understand the other guns but come on man. I assume scar 556 is still there.
Knew about it moment it happenedID: howsoa6
Would be nice if we didn't have to rely on people datamining to get information about important changes to the game...ID: howsytt
It's half their ideology for this game, for people to discover things for themselves. When Cultists dropped the subreddit banned every post to hide it for 2 days, I found out they were in the game the hard way and it was a blast
Well there is proof that slowing down progression doesn't work no matter what they do... I myself am already level 22 and I play a few hours a day. I constantly run into level 20-40 already with full level 5 gear. Even 2 of my friends at level 11 and 12 constantly run level 5 gear without even having flea market...
I honestly don’t like the way they make these items unsellable I get why. But I feel it takes away from the game and not letting us run it
You can’t even sell superformance slugs, cmon man no one is even buying them why ban it lol
Back to black market trading we go! Lmao BSG just encouraging RMT at this pointID: hoykzhm
I think this is something most people are ignoring, cant get an RSASS ill just buy it off some kid for a quid.
hot take: less items available on the market and more available only when you find them is good for the game and makes looting exciting and burn out lessID: hoy9fpc
Agreed. I quite like the idea that a lot of meta and late-game weapons + ammo + gear are not listable.
So long as there are some buffs to RNG to help more average players be able to find some of them would be nice. I've only ever found one single RSASS found in raid in three wipes. Same goes with a single Slick in that period of time.ID: hoz6wvk
Hot take: It would be in a game where there is no traders locked behind a level and time played. If I want a game where a m4 is rare af, I’ll go play Dayz. Because there it is rare for everybody, not unobtainable just for casuals.
I play tarkov to have fun, to mod cool guns and do some operator shit. Hell we’re supposed to be private contractors. Instead I have a game that needs to be played 12 hours a day to be remotely fun.
Gear should be unsellable but guns??? Idk man some scrub with a mp7 will always get less kills then a pro gamer with a 5-7ID: hoz19r3
Why the hell can you not buy an MDR 556? What the fuck?
What is really shitty about this is that Battlestate did not even let us know this change was going to be in effect. Like no in-game texts either, just a stealth nerf.ID: hoyk1g2
I'm sorry have you met BSG?
Ok and the trader are still Useless as shit on Low Level and a Lot of Stuff is locked on Quests. Boring
This shit is a fucking joke. Nikita said try to think of this a lore thing, the traders dont want to sell this shit but its getting to the point of being ridiculous. If they are going to remove all this stuff from being able to be listed why not just remove the fucking market ?
This is idiotic, I am 100% for bringing back ancap flea with no FIR. Early wipe is the worst and just a slog to get better traders so that me and my friends can actually have fun with kit we like. Half the people I have encountered this wipe are friendly and are just trying to get early wipe hell over with.ID: hoyl7ez
But you forget 80% of this sub are absolute shitters and need to force other people to run cheap kits because they’re too scared to bring in anything of value