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I realize that fire rate is currently tied to the gun itself, and that fire rate isn't variable currently.
But lets use our imaginations for a moment:IRL adjustable gas blocks are capable of lowering or raising the rate of fire (Used typically to compensate for hotter or subsonic rounds, supressors, etc.)
What if we were able to build a 750-800 RPM AK that had a more violent recoil for CQB, or a slower 550-650 RPM M4 for super stable long range suppression? Cranking up the PP-19's rate of fire to create something that competes with the vector?(*EDIT* oopsies the PP-19 is blowback operated not gas operated) the build diversity would be pretty interesting.
Now lets say the hotter rounds that currently increase recoil, also increased the rate of fire as they do IRL? We would have to dial back the gas block to bring down the rate of fire to a controllable level.
I think it would be a pretty fun addition to the game in the future.
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I think they’re adding heating guns, maybe this will be implemented with that
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The amount of gas that flows through yhe gas blockmakes the bolt go back faster or slower so that there aren't any problems will failures to feed or failures to eject casings from the receiver. Doesnt really make a noticeable difference in any other way
ID: gq7pb2qIncreasing the gas pressure and increasing the bolt carrier velocity absolutely increases cyclic rate. Of course it would need to be balanced with heavie
recoil springs and buffers to cycle reliably, but all that stuff is already "done" in Tarkov (we don't need to change springs and buffers to get a gun to cycle correctly) I've seen AK-103's firing at like 750 rpm. Kalashnikov media has a couple videos of them. -
That would fuckin suck, just saying. every single person would have their gun set to maximum fire rate, every time. Considering the current meta is "bullet hose" I can't see anything else happening
ID: gq7oq89And cranking up the rate of fire on an AK let's say, that already has a completely meta'd out v recoil stat of like 58 something, would make it pretty terrible at Medium-long range, just like an SA-58.
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Cranking up the PP-19's rate of fire to create something that competes with the vector?
Spoken like somebody who doesn't have the slightest idea of how adjustable gas blocks actually work
ID: gq7oenyMy bad, I thought the PP-19 was gas operated since it was built off the ak-74 platform. Turns out it's a simple blowback. For any other gun with a gas system? Increase the gas block port size, Increase the amount of combustion gasses pushing on the piston, increase the velocity of the bolt carrier and increase the cyclic rate of the firearm.
ID: gq7oi89That's what I was thinking, but he sounded so convincing. Adj gasblocks wouldn't change the rate of fire would they, but it would absolutely change recoil and wear on your parts as well as reliability. Fire rate however i would be a combination of gas, springs, length of action, etc.
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Idk the validity of it but it sounds fun with some restrictions
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Adjustable gas blocks are meant for adjusting amount of gas to an optimal level, so that the gun keeps cycling while reducing the recoil impulse caused by gas sent to the bolt. It is also used to adjust the gun for firing with suppressors, subsonic ammo etc. I don't think that you can adjust the rate of fire like that. By increasing the gas pressure you're only gonna increase recoil and stress on the parts
ID: gq7qhj4Gas blocks can absolutely increase the rate of fire. The "gun community" is so used to using them to fine tune exactily what you mentioned (recoil impulse, bolt carrier velocity, reliable operation, etc), but that's a discussion solely pertaining to semi auto guns. We don't notice an increase in cyclic rate when we're firing semi-auto.
Super simple example of this: take any simple blowback firearm, slap a supressor on it, and it increases the rate of fire pretty consiterably.
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I don't believe your understanding of gas systems is quite correct. If all you are doing is opening an adjustable gas block to its max, you are effectively just creating a normal gas block. The reason that suppressors increase ROF is that gas that would normally escape through the muzzle, is now forced back into the internals of the gun. This applies to all guns because it is showcased in both blowback and gas operated guns. People tune down the gas for suppressed shooting because it is harder on internals, harder to control, and you end up getting blasted in the face with gas. So sure the ROF should increase when adding supressors, the difference wouldn't really be worth it.
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Who would need something like this when meta is mag dump ? Faster weapon = better + 50/60/100 round mag. GG
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fire rate does a lot, for fun I play the single player tarkov and fire rate really impacts handling of the weapons and its cool. btw fun fact, a 2K rpm KEDR with the cheapest ammo and a 200 rd magazine will blow up everyone, exact when they run a double lvl 6 and 5 tacrig.
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I've seen a lot of those "meltdown" vids of firing guns full auto till they stop functioning, and both AR's and AK's take several hundred rounds to impact weapon performance at all. The AK-103 took over like 1k rounds before it impacted fire rate. Be interested to see how BSG introduces those restrictions.