I really want to see this interview.

1 : Anonymous2021/09/04 18:29 ID: phwxd3
I really want to see this interview.
2 : Anonymous2021/09/04 18:42 ID: hbljlvc

I don't feel like Caius' is accurate. I think he'd saying something along the lines of "I did it to protect Yeul."

ID: hbm18v3

Seymour's isn't accurate either. His ambition is power. He wanted to marry Yuna to become her guardian so he could become the next Sin. At least that's how I remember it. It's been a while since I played X so I could be wrong.

ID: hbm11xr

^^ THIS!!

3 : Anonymous2021/09/04 18:38 ID: hblj4lb

Vayne was more about freeing mankind from the control of the Occuria tbh.

ID: hbmdwt9

A little bit of column B, but mostly column A.

Vayne was absolutely a powerthirsty blood-knight. He killed all but one of his own brothers, dropped a nuke to destroy one neutral small nation, and then killed his father just so he could take emergency powers through succession. Then, he killed the senate that were the only internal ways to stop his succession, and then waged a war against the remaining smaller nation in the hopes of also crushing the last remaining large power on Ivalice even though they had already agreed to a surrender earlier.

Venat was mostly about freeing mankind from the Occuria, but used Cid and Vayne as a means to an end, and the latter was totally ok with that because he would get to be world emperor without retribution from the Occuria.

Which brings me to one of my favorite summaries of FFXII: "Star Wars, but a lot of the Empire's bad guys aren't actually that bad...except Judge Bergan. Fuck that guy."

ID: hbm9ooo

It got a lot of hate, but in my opinion XII's story was amazing

4 : Anonymous2021/09/04 18:56 ID: hbllfma

I was extremely upset that you skipped kefka, only to realize he was the punchline 🙂

ID: hbm5sed

Same I was like "wait they missed the best one"

5 : Anonymous2021/09/04 20:56 ID: hbm1b6z

I still admire Kefka's fashion choice being a reflection of how "fuck you, everything's meaningless" he was, almost mocking fine clothing as what he likely considered to be vapid vanity.

Everything is pointless, everything decays, everyone dies, so what's the point of wearing exquisite attire when your corpse will just shit in it when you expire.

ID: hbmbxza

But he wasn't daring enough to rock a man-thong like Kuja

ID: hbm3vdp

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that was his thought process once he became the equivalent of a god and destroying the world and whatnot. It's been a long time since I've sat down and played VI, but that was how I read into it. He was twisted and warped and insane, but he had somewhat of a plan. Which he accomplished until the end when he didn't understand the meaning of... anything, really...

Again, this is how I understood all of it, and my memory is fuzzy on the details.

6 : Anonymous2021/09/04 19:04 ID: hblmgqq

While some are a bit inaccurate, Kefka's sums it up. Guy caused the apocalypse for shits and giggles.

ID: hblobgu

He's literally a clown.

ID: hbm9yrh

And that's why I can't be mad at him. I do a lot of shit for shits and giggles.

7 : Anonymous2021/09/04 19:08 ID: hbln2th

That's a misread on Caius, yowza.

8 : Anonymous2021/09/04 18:49 ID: hblkhxe

Seeing his name makes me need to say it

Ardyn, in theory, is hands down the best villain in the entire franchise. In execution, he’s still up there, but his story isnt told the way it needed to be told.

ID: hbm3fik

Ardyn: read this book, watch this movie, and buy this DLC to find out because we're sure as fuck not gonna tell you in the base game.

ID: hbln41t

Absolutely. FFXV had a beautiful story, but the way it was told was awful.

ID: hblygqs

FF15 was a case study of how a game can be altered by other people's experiences. I loved it when it first came out. In my own head, I even saw the change from open world, to linear dungeon crawl as a great tie in for the themes. You think you have all of this freedom and control of your future, only to be forced to face destiny and the problems of the past. I liked how weak you felt with the ring, making you think of other ways to get through. My only problem was I wished the DLCs for your party members were in game missions to add more depth. Then, I saw the community pissed, saw all the "patches" they made, saw how the original FFXIII vs was set up to be, etc etc just dragging out over a year or so. I let it ruin the initial fun I had. Made a vow to only care about making sure I got my money's worth and that's it... Which helped me in that cluster fuck that is Cyber Punk lol. End of ramble

ID: hbls2bk

Ardyn is literally "What if Jesus' brother convinced everyone that he was the savior and Christ himself was the antichrist and God was like "Well if that's what the humans want, New plan Jesus. You're final boss now. You don't get to argue."?

I will never forgive them for cancelling the final DLC I heard it was supposed to really show the real enemy in bahamut, and noctis and Ardyn and all have to fight to take back their future from the one he planned out, which was the original game's ending.

They turned it into a book, but most agree that novelization is a bad way to tell a FF story. Especially a climax to an FF story>

9 : Anonymous2021/09/04 20:55 ID: hbm159v

Correction- Seymour: "I did it because I'm an omnicidal psycopath that believes that global eternal unlife and grief is better than living."
But really, FFX's real final antagonist, Yu Yevon: "I did it because I literally have no brains left and am just a neigh-omnipotent parasite running on pure instinct"

10 : Anonymous2021/09/04 19:48 ID: hblsbsr

Golbez did it because Zemus. Zemus did it why? Cuz evil nosferatu looking dude?

11 : Anonymous2021/09/04 18:59 ID: hbllscx

Skipped 11 and 14's ten antagonists

ID: hblpx8g


Nael van Darnus => I did it to give the empire power

Gaius van Baelsar => I ALSO did it to give the empire power

Thordan => I did it to destroy the dragons

Nidhogg => I did it to avenge my kin

Zenos => I did it because LULZ

Emet-selch => I did it to ressurrect my world

Elidibus => I did it to revive my god

Zenos Endwalker 2.0 => ALSO LULZ for sure

ID: hblnww9

This sub seems to intentionally do all in its power to pretend they don’t exist for some reason

ID: hbm78t3

Promathia: I did it because without conflict mortals think they can become gods

12 : Anonymous2021/09/04 20:42 ID: hblzerc

Emmet-Selch: I did it to make the world whole once more.

But, Exdeath didn't initially want to banish the world. He wanted to rule it, and the Void was just the power he needed. But, he underestimated the Power of the Void. It ate him up and turned him into a puppet.

13 : Anonymous2021/09/04 19:28 ID: hblpmtv

Kuja might be my favorite FF villain but Kefka's definitely the most entertaining.

ID: hbmayvk

Kuja has the best sense of fashion. That man-thong was bangin

14 : Anonymous2021/09/04 20:36 ID: hblyom4

Kefka is literally the epitome of absolute evil/chaos. No other villain has come close. Not even outside of the Final Fantasy universe.

15 : Anonymous2021/09/04 21:44 ID: hbm7jao

Vayne did it to break the Ocuria's control on mortal fate.

16 : Anonymous2021/09/04 22:03 ID: hbm9w6i

Kefka is who I pictured when Alfred said that "some men just want to watch the world burn."

17 : Anonymous2021/09/04 22:14 ID: hbmb873

Bold of you to assume kefka would sit for an interview

18 : Anonymous2021/09/04 22:23 ID: hbmccgk

I know it's not FF but...

Krelian did it because God wouldn't.

19 : Anonymous2021/09/04 22:32 ID: hbmdhdx

Kefka wanted power though, it wasn’t just for shits and gigs his goal was to become a god and wipe out the world

20 : Anonymous2021/09/04 22:52 ID: hbmfyrj

Nah, man. Kefka's reason was far from "for the lulz." He's a classic nihilist.The real list would be:

Garland: "I've been chosen to become a god"

Emperor Palamecia: "It is my right to rule the world - and I will do so even from beyond the grave"

Xande: "I wasn't my mentor's favorite, and received the worst gift of all"

Golbez: "It wasn't my choice - I was under someone else's control"

Exdeath: "Mankind will destroy nature if I don't destroy them first"

Sephiroth: "I wasn't born a normal child - I was created. What then is my purpose?"

Ultimecia: "If I've been prophesized to die, I will rewrite time itself"

Kuja: "My creator deemed me a failure. I will prove him wrong"

Seymour: "I must end this endless cycle by becoming Death itself"

Shuyin: "I can't imagine a world without her"

Vayne: "Mankind must write its own destiny"

Orphan: "I'm tired and wish to die"

Caius: "I must protect Yuel"

Bhunivelze: "It is my right to destroy my own creations" (tbh, this is the only one I'm not too familiar with)

Ardyn: "My destiny was stolen from me"

Kefka: "Life is pointless. Everything's going to end anyway, why not just help it along? ...Hey! Hey, you! Why do you keep rebuilding what I've just destroyed?! Just accept your fate and DIE already!"

EDIT: spoliers

21 : Anonymous2021/09/04 22:55 ID: hbmgbl9

Exdeath: “I did it because MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!”

22 : Anonymous2021/09/04 23:04 ID: hbmheav

Even tho I'm an ff7 mark, Kefka is still the GOAT villain

23 : Anonymous2021/09/04 20:18 ID: hblwbax

Kefka wouldn't say lulz. Cringe

ID: hbm1i3z

If Lulz was available for Kefka to say, he'd have said it for the entire sake that it's cringe.

24 : Anonymous2021/09/04 20:40 ID: hblz6ip

LOL said kefka LMAO

25 : Anonymous2021/09/04 19:31 ID: hblq2dn

The only one left out was the Creator from FFIV The After Years.

ID: hbm7u2y

If we're counting sequels to mainline games and not just spinoffs, then Kadaj, Genesis, and Weiss from the VII Compilation and Feolthanos from Revenant Wings would like a word

26 : Anonymous2021/09/04 19:53 ID: hblsx40

And he’s the best one! No Frankenstein’s Monster, feel sorry for me BS. Just someone you would enjoy killing.

27 : Anonymous2021/09/04 21:31 ID: hbm5ucy

We stan the gay clown

28 : Anonymous2021/09/04 21:47 ID: hbm7vz1

Ultimekia doesn't Kompress the time for living forever tho? I mean sure that's one of the goals but main reason is she wants revenge for diskrimination

29 : Anonymous2021/09/04 21:22 ID: hbm4r3s

No lies detected.

30 : Anonymous2021/09/04 21:43 ID: hbm7e55

Gaius: In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony eikon's blessing. But because, I am enlightened by Ultima Weapon

31 : Anonymous2021/09/04 22:19 ID: hbmbvpw

Always feels a bit sad when something like this comes up, and Final Fantasy Tactics just doesn’t exist for a lot of people.

FF Tactics was like Game of Thrones, but Final Fantasy. Where do you even begin with who the bad guy is, and after the story, hoo boy.

32 : Anonymous2021/09/04 22:29 ID: hbmd3ad

To be fair, Ardyn just wanted everything to burn at the end.

He was betrayed by the Gods, his brother killed his lover and took his place on the throne out of jealousy, he was erased from history save for a generic 'bad guy title'.

Hell, poor guy wanted to die and wasn't allowed to because said Gods screwed up in the first place, so he was essentially as much of a sacrifice as the protagonist.

As far as pantheons go, FFXV's has half the pantheon being utter jackasses.

34 : Anonymous2021/09/04 23:33 ID: hbmktin

Vayne didnt do it to become the emperor, he did it so that man’s fate can no longer be decided by the gods’ hands. His claiming the dynast-king title is more like a mark of the new age for man.

35 : Anonymous2021/09/04 22:20 ID: hbmc1st

Thats why Kefka is the greatest.


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