Why did people not like 15? I’ve been playing it for a few dozen hours and I’m loving it, even if the initial charm has faded a tad. (Spoiler free please)

1 : Anonymous2021/03/07 22:48 ID: m01pj1

Edit: I know a lot of people loved this game, but it’s definitely a lot more divisive than a game like 7. I’m aware that 99% of you guys here liked it, but I wanna know why a lot of people people didn’t.

2 : Anonymous2021/03/07 23:07 ID: gq5gmoq
It was announced too soon and stayed in development forever, people’s expectations and hype went over the top. Development hell, numerous rewrites, cut content, change of staff and change of concepts. It was originally intended to be released as ~3 games (sorta like FFVIIR), but the decision was made to split the content into multiple media (movie, anime etc..) which had a negative impact on the plot’s coherence, which was a chief complaint for many people who hated the game, even I as a fan think they have a point. Game wasn’t given enough time for development, Square set a strict release window and the devs had to push out whatever they had, forcing them to cut a ton of content from the game such as open areas and very likely story sequences, which again impacted the plot.

Evidently, the devs couldn’t get everything they wanted into the game, and hence the somewhat valid argument that the game is “incomplete”, you’ll understand this more once you finish the game. Watching the movie, anime and plaything the DLCs greatly enhances the game’s “completeness”, but it doesn’t do much for plot coherence.

Great Game, Nevertheless, one of my all-time favorites despite its flaws.

3 : Anonymous2021/03/07 23:35 ID: gq5jq8j

I haven’t played it yet, but I think I just might give it a shot to see what it’s all about.

ID: gq62cvu

Honestly it has its good moments.

It's not trash, especially if your not a long time/huge Final Fantasy fans.

As far as the modern FF games go it's up there, muuch better than XIII trilogy. Also the dialogue between the bois is so organic and and genuinely human. I love the world and driving in Regalia listening to old FF music is dope, I know I railed on XIII trilogy, but one thing that cannot be taken away from it is it's music, best in the franchise IMO. People don't like the combat but I do, it's basically FF Type-0s but with ariel combat.

The story is a convoluted mess that is poorly told you need to watch the anime and the movie plus all the DLC to really get the whole scope of it.

4 : Anonymous2021/03/07 23:15 ID: gq5hhvd

I thought the plot had its issues and a lot of characters fell to the wayside over the really convoluted release and its varied media. I expected a lot more from Luna in particular and was really disappointed with her in the end result.

I have a bit more appreciation for it now that Dawn of the Future came out, but it still ranks near the bottom in the overall series for me along with FFI and II.

5 : Anonymous2021/03/07 23:37 ID: gq5jwil
Combat is so basic and drab, hold to attack/hold to dodge (look at FF7:RE, infinitely better) 99% of side quests are fetch filler (one quest I literally went round a town turning gas valves, not to mention dog tags) Most of the world/towns are just empty and lifelesss Story was so basic (I played it at release and never again, if they improved it later I'm not bothered, other FF games didn't need to patch plot together) Summons were pretty much removed by just being random self appearances, same for magic being grenades really Mini games were boring compared to others (fishing or pinball compared to blitzball, chocobo hot and cold, cars games, Fort condo saucer etc)

I honestly found it horrendous, I finished it for the sake of it, but I didn't enjoy it, I think it's a poor FF game and a poor game in general, the side quests reminded me of DA:I where they were just as fille

as possible. There were some interesting quests/hunts but there was just so much boring fluff.

Edit : I also did every side quest except fighting Adamantoise, including Pitios (which was actually more fun than a lot of the fights because it involved some challenge instead of spam attack/dodge with random healing thrown in)

6 : Anonymous2021/03/07 22:51 ID: gq5eu5p

I loved it, enjoy!

ID: gq5f4kr

I know that a lot of people also loved it. But it’s also one of the most disliked in the series.

7 : Anonymous2021/03/07 23:41 ID: gq5kebi

I'll give my opinion as someone that has only gotten into Final Fantasy in the last year (so far I have played 10, 10-2, 13, 13-2, 14, 15 and currently playing 7):

15 was the first FF that I ever saw actual gameplay for and I vividly remember E3 2013 when my mind was blown seeing the game for the first time, I thought it looked great at the time. I knew going into playing it last year that opinions were fairly positive but not as universal as FF7 and FF9.

So basically my opinion after beating it is that the game is 'fine' I would say its a 7/10 game. The visuals are great, the music is decent and the actual concept for the game is pretty interesting with some likeable characters and a nice brotherhood feel throughout the story.

However I think the game is held back by issues relating to the story and gameplay (just like FF13), the story itself isn't executed very well in my opinion with many characters feeling very flat and underdeveloped and personally I didn't really care for them like I did with other FF games. I also hate that the game stores some of the story away in the movie and anime with the developers even shoehorning in a random montage from the film into the game with zero context (I believe this was added post launch to help fix the story problems along with a couple of other cutscenes)

The gameplay (while fun) also feels underdeveloped with the combat having a cheap hack n slash feel with very little depth. I also think the open world is very surface level, it looks pretty but there is little to do or discover and I hated the invisible walls.

Overall I think the game is decent but you can really tell that the game had development problems and it just felt kinda unfinished in general with very little depth.

8 : Anonymous2021/03/07 23:57 ID: gq5m6mm

I didn't like the boy band party. They were all kinda annoying. Aranea should have been a party member.

ID: gq5mslk

They were my favorite part, aranea was too much of a stereotype for me. Can’t stand the shippers though, only like them as a friend group.

9 : Anonymous2021/03/07 23:29 ID: gq5j1ap

I loved XV. Easily in my top three Final Fantasy games, easily.

10 : Anonymous2021/03/08 02:38 ID: gq63nfn

I honestly felt like 15 was my favorite final fantasy up until one of the big boss fights. After that, the game gets super linear, slow and boring, which is the complete opposite energy that was carried by the rest of the game. The last quarter of this game was so bad for me that it ruined the other 75%

11 : Anonymous2021/03/08 03:44 ID: gq6an3r

I honestly can’t say I disliked really any of the FF games (aside for FF13-2) all of them have aspects and signatures that I like and each brings their own creative edge to the table. That being said, my biggest gripe with FF15 was I felt like I finished it (and all of its “added” content) in very little time. I loved the different aspects it brought to the final fantasy titles but I was looking forward to more crazy bosses or working my ass off to get insane weapons and really, once you get the ring of Lucii, the game is easy. I absolutely loved the concept and I appreciate the ability and power to banish high level enemies so easily, but it seemed like game went by in a flash with it. I guess I was just hoping there would be bosses like Omega Weapon in FF10 where I needed to level and work toward beating a boss like that. But I still liked it overall!

12 : Anonymous2021/03/08 03:58 ID: gq6c0bi

No spoilers, the end is my favorite part so it's not like it has a bad end.

13 : Anonymous2021/03/08 04:10 ID: gq6d8x3

What's hilarious about this sub is that I posted I tried playing XV multiple times and couldn't get into it but that I'm glad the OP is enjoying it and got downvoted lol oh well.

14 : Anonymous2021/03/08 05:14 ID: gq6j5bf

In short, I wasn’t invested in the characters and the battle system bored me.

15 : Anonymous2021/03/08 05:53 ID: gq6m8os

The biggest factor for me are the bland characters. Just ripped off anime stereotypes. Also, they started the game already having been acquainted and knowing each other.

The magic of the game, above everything else, is meeting new characters throughout the journey. People brought together by circumstance and with a lot of tensions and disagreements and different backgrounds resolving into a bona fide party.

16 : Anonymous2021/03/08 05:55 ID: gq6mdxp

You should watch the first trailers, from when it was still called Versus XIII, then compare it to what it turned out to be. You will see a lot of potential wasted.

17 : Anonymous2021/03/07 22:57 ID: gq5fh31

After the mediocre XIII and its sequels it was a good new installment. I liked it a lot even if it dragged on a bit towards the end. Although the BS with the missing chapters that got released as DLC was terrible. Oh, and Pitioss... never talk about Pitioss!

ID: gq5frrs

Calling 13 mediocre is being severely generous

18 : Anonymous2021/03/07 22:59 ID: gq5fomh

I liked it quite a bit. As for problems, long load times and riding in the car means you have to set aside a large block of time if you're going to enjoy it properly whether you drive it or not. Cookie cutter missions took away from the game too. My biggest beef with it is some of the cities feeling too small and the outside world feeling very empty at times. I would have like the chocobo to do more than they did in this game too.

19 : Anonymous2021/03/07 23:01 ID: gq5fxdb

Look into its history aka development then you'll know. Also, besides 7 there are much better ff titles than 15.

20 : Anonymous2021/03/08 01:12 ID: gq5ucjq

I tried numerous times to get invested into the game and failed. Glad you are enjoying it though.

21 : Anonymous2021/03/08 02:23 ID: gq61ygb

It took so long to come out and expectations were rising to an impossible level, same with any game that takes too long to release after its initial announcement.

Metal Gear Solid V, FFXV, KH3, Cyberpunk, No Man's Sky, etc

22 : Anonymous2021/03/08 02:25 ID: gq6294f

Wait till you get to the part where the whole game structure changes for no reason

23 : Anonymous2021/03/08 02:27 ID: gq62e3g

I liked it. But the story was told poorly.

24 : Anonymous2021/03/08 03:02 ID: gq669lu

It was a good game, I think the main issue was the hype was really high at launch and it just didn't deliver as the "greatest game of all time". I think also the story was a bit all over the place, like to movie focused heavily on the ring and Luna while they were not as important in the game. The end felt rushed so once everyone wrote reviews the worst part of the game was fresh in their mind. I still thought FFXV was fun but it could of captured the FF magic if it had another year or two in development. Poor decision by SE to release information too early and build up an obscene amount of hype.


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