An update regarding Horizon Forbidden West on PS4 and PS5

1 : Anonymous2021/09/04 23:01 ID: pi1lvj
An update regarding Horizon Forbidden West on PS4 and PS5
2 : Anonymous2021/09/04 23:18 ID: hbmj060

So buying the digital PS4 version and getting the upgrade will save me £10 right?

ID: hbmk5nt


ID: hbofwo5

but the more expensive ps5 version is still available on psn, what is the point of that version then?

ID: hbmlj6y

In this situation, yes.

ID: hbmsnng

So we’re paying $10 extra for the white case??

Is it bad that I’m still thinking of getting the white case??

ID: hbmrn1u

Wait, i don’t get it.

If you buy PS4 version, cheaper than PS5. You get a free PS5 upgrade?

Does it not count for physical copy as well?

ID: hbms1j6

Yea you can get HFW PS4 for a cheaper price and get the free upgrade

And it counts for both physical and digital copies of the game

ID: hbmwngz

This goes to show how fucking arbitrary is the price bump on the "next gen" prices.

ID: hbnuokf

My favorite part of the increase was when the take two CEO said that they deliver more value than $70. I would tend to agree. I bought a basketball game that ended up being a gambling simulator about basketball. Incredible!

3 : Anonymous2021/09/04 23:05 ID: hbmhh6o

The change:

Free Horizon Forbidden West PS4 to PS5 Upgrade

Future first party PS4 & PS5 games will have a $10 upgrade fee

ID: hbmkl7c

Does this mean I can buy the PS4 version for 10 dollars cheaper and upgrade to PS5 version for free? I only have a PS5

ID: hbmmcox

Yes that’s correct. I’ll be buying the PS4 Special Edition now for the steelbook and free PS5 upgrade

ID: hbn1jla

yes although given this change, which is likely a very recent change, I imagine the ps5 version will see a price deduction to be in line with the the ps4 version

ID: hbmhv57

The post also seems to imply that there are more first-party cross-gen games to come (that we don't know about yet) ...

ID: hbmi245

MLB probably has another year or two of cross-gen before it moves to being current-gen only. Factions and the TLoU remake are probably cross-gen as well.

ID: hbmirs0

Yes, there's definitely going to be more cross-gen games. I recall reading an article from last year or earlier that Sony plans to support PS4 to at least 2023.

4 : Anonymous2021/09/05 01:08 ID: hbmvu5b

Does this mean the ps5 version is also 60 dollars? Its a weird position they put themselves in. If so does that mean the 80 dollar edition will be reduced to 70?

ID: hbnxm66

I don't think so, but they might as well just make the PS5 version $60 because most people are just going to get the PS4 version for $10 less and upgrade to the PS5 version for free.

ID: hbo2rku

People that know will. There are a lot of people that will just buy they one they think they need. Especially if it is a gift parents will just buy the best version.

ID: hbo7y65

You underestimate how unimportant 10$ are to people. A lot of them will gladly pay the 10$ instead of going through an additional step of "upgrading"

5 : Anonymous2021/09/04 23:05 ID: hbmhits

Finally. They listen. Also they layed out plans for God of War and GT7. Finally consistency.

ID: hbmnaj7

Yep. So basically both are cross-gen.

Edit: updated wording to cross-gen.

ID: hbms41x

which is old news, of course

6 : Anonymous2021/09/04 23:05 ID: hbmhk2k

So even though on PS5, buy PS4 version for $10 cheap, right? Or is it $60 across the board now?

ID: hbmif2i

This is a really good point. Why would anyone buy the $70 PS5 version when you can get the PS4 version for $60 and upgrade for free?

ID: hbmlo80

This is exactly why Sony is clarifying that future cross gen games will be a $10 upgrade. They are just taking the bullet for Horizon since they already promised it would be a free upgrade.

ID: hbmk7oy

My understanding is as follows...

Horizon will eventually change things around. Likely all standard edition preorders will be refunded and it's just made into one version and we will possibly see a reduction in Digital DX edition as a "make good" or something so it isn't $20 for essentially nothing. Future games will be more straightforward. There will be a PlayStation 4 version, a PlayStation 5 version for $10 more that includes both and an upgrade download that is $10 on its own.
7 : Anonymous2021/09/04 23:18 ID: hbmj2xf

I’m an all digital guy so this didn’t really affect me to begin with, but, from what I can tell this still doesn’t give players who buy the top tier editions physical copies right?

ID: hbmq7ak

Seems that way, it makes zero sense to buy the ps5 version of the game. Save 10 bucks by buying the ps4 version, physical or digital, and then use the free ps5 upgrade.

ID: hbmqhpe

True, they’re probably gonna have to readjust their pricing on the store, maybe make the digital deluxe $70 instead of $80 or something.

Still, giving collectors steel books and no physical copy is silly. Hopefully all the other stuff they get balances out for them.

8 : Anonymous2021/09/05 08:53 ID: hbo1oc0

We belive in generations

9 : Anonymous2021/09/05 00:09 ID: hbmozv3

Wow, they actually listened

10 : Anonymous2021/09/04 23:41 ID: hbmloj1

So are they going to update the MSRP of the PS5 version, or do you need to pay $10 for the luxury of having a PS5 box instead of a PS4 box?

11 : Anonymous2021/09/04 23:09 ID: hbmhxdk

It seems like Sony has been super quick to listen to criticism this generation. Between this, the PS3 store shutting down, and the lack of warning with pre-orders, it feels like they're listening to public outcry much more. But at the same time, it feels like there were less situations that led to outcry before this gen, so I'm not sure if it's actually an improvement

ID: hbmilac

And this is why bitching and moaning should be encouraged with these situations, it actually works more than "voting with your wallet". Thankfully there wasn't too many people defending this.

ID: hbmjhrx

I just don't see how anyone with a brain could've defended a shitty decision like that. They're as stupid as the ones who thought it was a good idea to make us pay full price for the next gen version of the game if we previously bought the last gen version without the Digital Deluxe add on.

$10 upgrade for future cross-gen games is more reasonable because if it was a free upgrade, what would be the point of getting the PS5 version of the games when you could just get the PS4 version for the free upgrade?

ID: hbmxetk

But the issue isnt fixed going forward. The battle for Horizon was won, but the war is lost.

It was easy enough to fix in response of outrage about a supposed lie and not change anything significant for future games.

12 : Anonymous2021/09/05 01:04 ID: hbmvek5

So like, they gonna reduce the PS5 version’s price? Cause it’s gonna be 10$ more for, literally nothing.

ID: hbnfvp4

I believe this happened to launch games as well didnt it? I remember that sackboy wws cheaper on ps4 than ps5 and offered a free upgrade.

So yeah, it makes no sense to buythe ps5 unless you like white boxes?

ID: hbnj3mt

Even then, the boxes aren’t even white, its just the band saying “ps5”. Honestly it’s the difference between a white tab or a blue tab. Honestly would’ve preferred a black box or white

ID: hbnqfg6

Spider-Man Miles Morales was 50 bucks on PS5 same as PS4 on launch day

13 : Anonymous2021/09/04 23:56 ID: hbmnffp

If I'm reading this right, you can actually buy the PS4 version and just play it on PS5 with all the bells and whistles?

It's only the games going forward that'll require the "PS5 tax"?

Strange they decided to do this for Horizon only, when GoT had a paid upgrade. Probably trying to regain back trust because they promised a free upgrade for this.

How hard would it have been to think this through for 5 seconds before releasing the info to the public? They could have avoided a lot of shit PR they seem to like so much lately.

Thanks to the people who dug up that statement from Ryan.

14 : Anonymous2021/09/05 00:40 ID: hbmsiwi

So what prevent me to buy the $60 PS4 version and get the free PS5 version instead of buying the $70 PS5 version?

ID: hbmy55c

Nothing prevents you from doing that.

ID: hbn8ni1

You don’t get the white boxart if you buy physical.

15 : Anonymous2021/09/04 23:31 ID: hbmklhn

This is definitely a step in the right direction. Sure, the $10 upgrade is going to be controversial in the future and there will be much to debate about it. But, it's good that Sony is outlining their future plans to the public, instead of remaining silent.

ID: hbml8eq

It’s definitely more ideal than having to fork over another $80 just to transfer save files to the PS5 version.

ID: hbo24mj

I think the difference is that the $10 upgrade can be understood logically. If a PS5 game is $70 and the PS4 version is $60, it makes intuitive sense that upgrading from the version that is $10 cheaper would cost $10. It all evens out in the end. The unnecessary upcharge and needless version restrictions originally announced for Horizon did not make logical sense and were consumer unfriendly, that was the difference.

Now, whether PS5 games should be $70 in the first place is another discussion. It definitely seems like some publishers were anticipating an industry wide move to $70 for the new generation, and because that hasn't happened across the board it makes those that did jump to $70 stand out, and not in a good way.

16 : Anonymous2021/09/05 00:51 ID: hbmtstt

We shouldn’t have to riot in order for this stuff to happen, but glad it did.

17 : Anonymous2021/09/05 00:44 ID: hbmsyzx

As a PS5 owner, is there any reason not to just buy the PS4 version? It looks like I’ll get dual entitlement and save $10.


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