Jak and Daxter turns 20 – Reflections from PlayStation Studios and friends

1 : Anonymous2021/12/03 15:05 ID: r813co
Jak and Daxter turns 20 – Reflections from PlayStation Studios and friends
2 : Anonymous2021/12/03 15:56 ID: hn2vsbh

I adore all 3 of these games and will forever hold them in my heart.

I know naughty dog is on to bigger and better etc, but look at how ratchet has continued to thrive. Just imagine of naughty dog had another team working on a new jak and Daxter game.

ID: hn3vves

I think the issue now lies with not enough people working at Naughty Dog to be experienced with this kind of game. The narrative in Jak and Daxter and the environments weren't realistic or super serious, and so it's hard to tell whether they'd be able to hit a homerun with this kind of game now. We've all heard of the high amount of employee turnover they have had during game development in the past.

Then again, they're a part of playstation studios, which comes with the added benefit of being able to consult with (or borrow employees of) other studios like Insomniac Games, Team Asobi, Sumo Digital, and Media Molecule. So it could turn out good even now if they make good use of their resources.

ID: hn40byx

Oh it's never going to happen. Not with naughty dog. Sony would have to get a different studio to do it, like Asobi. But PlayStation has enough, arguably too many, action platformers now so I'm sure they don't see the need for it.

It's a dream... But a very nice dream

ID: hn3bq4h

Technically we had it with jak and daxter the lost frontier and it didn’t work out very well….

ID: hn3fphw

That was done by High Impact Games with an average at best track record. It wasn’t an issue with the franchise itself. It’d be cool to see someone else take a go at it, especially if development isn’t restrained like TLF was. It was designed for PSP in 2009! After Uncharted 2 came out.

ID: hn3r62z

Yeah... We don't talk about that one

ID: hn3d35w

I know naughty dog is on to bigger and better

Bigger? Sure. Better? Debatable. I personally love 3D platformers more than third person shooters, so Jak for me all the way. Not saying the other games are bad mind you, just saying what I prefer.

ID: hn3v6nz

3D Platformers are the only reason I would buy a a console, they need to make more of them especially with the next gen tech being able to push such great animations and models.

Would love to see a lot of platforming games from circa 1997-2004 get revamped.

Tak, Glover, banjo kazooie, sly, crash, scooby doo etc.

ID: hn3r9tt

I really love uncharted and the last of us. Clearly different audiences though

ID: hn3ib88

I feel this

3 : Anonymous2021/12/03 16:13 ID: hn2y93m

I’d take a remake, please.

4 : Anonymous2021/12/03 15:12 ID: hn2pc6l

Can we get a new one? Please?

ID: hn3ckdn

I thought the title said Jak and Daxter returns for a second and I got excited. Then I got dissapointed.

ID: hn2td3r

They tried prototyping a new one in the 2010s, but weren't able to come up with good/fun ideas for it, so they scrapped it. With that in mind, it's probably best they move on.

ID: hn3eruz

I just don't think anyone who wants to make games like this still works at Naughty Dog. That isn't inherently a slight against Naughty Dog since millions of people prefer their newer games, but the crew of workers who enjoyed making fun, colorful, exciting, animated worlds clearly left a long time ago. I would even argue the genre shift in Jak 2 was a very early indicator of that.

ID: hn30whv

I think a remake in the vein of Crash Bandicoot and Spyro would be good to see, especially of the first one.

ID: hn2s6xt

One day!

5 : Anonymous2021/12/03 18:39 ID: hn3kl09

The way Jak jumped out of his rolls from ledge to ledge, or fired his guns while doing a spin kick...this was exhilarating gameplay that not even Uncharted can match.

6 : Anonymous2021/12/03 16:49 ID: hn33py4

I'd kill for a Precursor Legacy type of game. Jak 2 and 3 were also great, but I liked the innocent and cartoony game more.

ID: hn3ve12

Cool cartoony games are the best, and seemingly been forgotten by game designers, astros play room was kind of like that, really nice aesthetic choices there.

ID: hn591rg

You should try kena . Honestly it heavily reminded me of jak 1

ID: hn6m6fc

Haven't heard of it before, thanks! Trailer looks nice :O

7 : Anonymous2021/12/03 18:20 ID: hn3hpi8

Jak 2 was my favorite game of all time as a kid I would shit a brick if they did a remaster or a new game

ID: hn4zcjo

Jak 2 is one of the best games on PS2. I love that series.

8 : Anonymous2021/12/03 18:23 ID: hn3i9j6

If they remaster the trilogy I’ll get a naughty dog logo tattooed on my asshole

ID: hnb3ola

Jak and Daxter: The Definitive Trilogy

You better get a lot of ice!

9 : Anonymous2021/12/03 16:33 ID: hn31abw

I thought the title said Jak and Daxter returns and got really excited for a second

10 : Anonymous2021/12/03 16:16 ID: hn2ysyh

Let a studio outside of Naughty Dog make it, it will still be great and won't take up their time and resources.

ID: hn3o352

The last time Sony did something like this was with Sly 4 and it wasn’t received well. You can’t expect a entirely different team have the same passion and capture the same magic of an entirely different team of people decades ago.

ID: hn3tn3r

Yeah would hate for them to use reasources remaking a game.....oh wait.

ID: hn3ux9h

lol yeah if that rumor is true it's maddening news.

ID: hn2z3t5

I mean Lost Frontier was alright, but was largely ignored.

ID: hn320b1

It was just sort of forgettable, and the flying sections weren't great, and I remember the final boss was major ass.

ID: hn31m0v

Shit, Naughty desperately needs to do something other than over over-the-shoulder quippy story action games. LOU2 was great but Jak would feel "new" from them at this point.

ID: hn339cj

I absolutely love their newer games, but I would love them to return to it too. I just don't think you could ever convince Sony that this would sell as well or be as popular compared to what they're doing lately. Maybe they could make the best open world platformer ever made though.

11 : Anonymous2021/12/03 16:39 ID: hn3282g

I just want a remaster for the ps4 gen

12 : Anonymous2021/12/03 17:05 ID: hn3692b

I love all of these games and it pains me to seem them constantly celebrate a beloved IP all the while you can't play a decent version of 2 or 3 on PS4 onward due to shitty ports.

Can't believe such a big, beloved title gets a shitty release and nothing is said.

13 : Anonymous2021/12/03 15:34 ID: hn2si09

I would just be happy with a new modern port of the HD collection. The ps2 emulated versions on PSN are full of graphical glitches and it gets worse each game in the series.

1 is “ok” but 2 and 3 have some major issues.

14 : Anonymous2021/12/03 23:45 ID: hn4qwvx

Controversial opinion but I would take Jak 4 over TLOU 3. I know it wouldn't be a good business move for ND, but I'd prefer it.

15 : Anonymous2021/12/03 17:31 ID: hn3a8km

I loved the gameplay and style of the first game way more then the next 2. The dance and music that go with collecting a power cell worked so well.

16 : Anonymous2021/12/04 00:00 ID: hn4ss1s

I’ve made peace with the thought that we’ll never get a Jak 4 - but if any game deserves the Crash Bandicoot esque remaster treatment, it’s definitely Jak 🙁

Maybe 25th anniversary? See you in 5 years guys

17 : Anonymous2021/12/04 00:39 ID: hn4xngx

One thing that’s incredible about Jake & Daxter is how well it holds up. Not just from a gameplay standpoint, but from a technical standpoint. The lack of loading screens is still incredibly impressive to this day, but the animation still gives modern games a run for their money. It’s got some of the most expressive characters ever in gaming; they feel so alive, and this was at a time when a lot of games’ facial animations basically just consisted of a few alternating textures.

18 : Anonymous2021/12/03 16:52 ID: hn34922

First one was the best one. The other two were good but the first was magical.

19 : Anonymous2021/12/03 16:27 ID: hn30f0f

Loved this game when I was young.

20 : Anonymous2021/12/03 20:22 ID: hn3zxnw

They should definitely bring these back I’ve asked so many times why they stopped but no one really asked

21 : Anonymous2021/12/03 21:42 ID: hn4bevg

I really love the mythology of this series. It's really original and creative and I can't think of many games that do that.

22 : Anonymous2021/12/03 22:12 ID: hn4ekfe

Would love an extended remake of the first game, they could expand the world with new areas and take some of the features from 2 and 3 like the hoverboard and situational weapons

23 : Anonymous2021/12/04 02:06 ID: hn58fh9

Gul and Mia are still in the dark eco tank

(IIRC in the Jak 3 manual it actually hints that they escaped and are living in the sewers of the city planning something)

24 : Anonymous2021/12/04 02:15 ID: hn59jvt

Jak and Daxter PS5 remaster or even a reboot would be amazing.

25 : Anonymous2021/12/03 17:09 ID: hn36t6a

NEED NEED NEED a remake 🙁

27 : Anonymous2021/12/03 15:21 ID: hn2qmte

Been waiting naughty dog to get off their asses on this for a decade. Druckman is to stubborn.

28 : Anonymous2021/12/03 15:28 ID: hn2rqtj

They already said in their anniversary documentary that jak and darter were dead, the people who made the og’s were no longer with the company, and that it was a thing of the past and they moved onto new stuff

29 : Anonymous2021/12/03 16:54 ID: hn34l1g

Probably for the best they would bastardize the series

30 : Anonymous2021/12/03 17:31 ID: hn3a78f

So why not sell the IP?

31 : Anonymous2021/12/03 15:58 ID: hn2w5o9

It would probably be shit if they re made it. The people who were behind it left, and they’ve definitely moved on to other types of games. They aren’t capable of re capturing what made it so great back then.

Sucks but it’s better to leave it as good as it was and not ruin the legacy.

32 : Anonymous2021/12/03 15:39 ID: hn2t9yl

I don't think PlayStation wants to spend the time, effort, and money, on a game like Jak and Daxter. It's one of those games that, assuming you get a proper new-generation improvement, will cost them time and effort and require a particularly skilled staff to pull off. The old games were reaching a weird sci-fantasy GTA to an extent and any proper evolution in the series will be a CP2077-level undertaking (perhaps not in graphical realism, but in all other systems) and there are absolutely zero PlayStation studios that can pull that off if development began today, and only a handful that can learn to do it given enough time.

And as much as PlayStation likes to claim otherwise, they are indeed risk-averse. Most people and companies are. They don't want to spend that much hoping the 30-year olds that played the old games still like them.

33 : Anonymous2021/12/03 16:37 ID: hn31wvg

I’m not really seeing the angle here

It would be closer to a rift apart level undertaking considering the genre and mechanics being so similar, but the brunt of the expertise would be in the writing department if they went back to the franchise. Either making Jak 4 with a consistent and good narrative or rebooting the franchise with a clear and planned direction/tone would be the biggest challenge.

I personally think Sony would be insane to have IPs like Ratchet, Sly and Jak and not have all 3 dominating the platforming genre with the mascot pull.

34 : Anonymous2021/12/03 15:58 ID: hn2w4on

It's such a sad truth because the games were great but won't hold up to current gamers now

35 : Anonymous2021/12/03 15:27 ID: hn2rlpq

The person who created the jak games has long since left they were his baby. Druckman will never greenlight another one as long as hes in charge.

36 : Anonymous2021/12/03 15:56 ID: hn2vu35


37 : Anonymous2021/12/03 21:02 ID: hn45qac

If they can remake Jak and Daxter as well as Ratchet and Clank I’d buy it in a heartbeat, I think them scrapping was just laziness or something it would be fun as fuck

38 : Anonymous2021/12/03 23:03 ID: hn4la5n

Sweet, now make a remake!

39 : Anonymous2021/12/04 13:48 ID: hn700dq

I will never lose hope. And considering how well the new ratchet did and it’s 70$ for a 10 hour game. A new Jak and Daxter would blow it out of the water.

40 : Anonymous2021/12/04 20:17 ID: hn8gvfl

One of my favorite games of all time. Grew up with these games and played them so many times over and over.

41 : Anonymous2021/12/05 20:29 ID: hnd9lnn

Such an odd franchise as whole. 1st was a 3D traditional platformer, 2nd was a run n' gun action platformer, 3rd was an open world action adventure, followed up w/ a combat racing game. They were all good to great games, and where Naughty Dog really honed their craft ahead of Uncharted & TLOU series.

42 : Anonymous2021/12/05 06:02 ID: hnal70h

I'm an Xbox player but PS2 was my baby back then.

Jak IV will make me buy a PS5, (or wait for the game to be available on PC like the rest of the PS studios games will eventually).


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