- [HUB] Radeon RX 6700 XT vs. Radeon RX 5700 XT, Clock-for-Clock IPC Benchmark
That cache does a good job of making up for a smaller memory bus width.
RDNA 1 has two primitive units, rasterizers and 8 RBEs per shader engine while RDNA 2 has 1/1/4. Also RDNA 2 has a smaller wave 32/64 controller per SIMD. This made 80CU possible. IMO RDNA 2 is designed for Navi 21.
RDNA2 is faster due to the fact the architecture was reworked to allow for much higher clock speeds all while trying to reduce power consumption, if they couldn't have done so they'd have focused on improving IPC instead as the way to improve from one generation to the next. So it stands to reason that for RDNA3, if they don't increase frequencies again, they'll go back to improving IPC, or give us more CUs for the same price/power, improving performance on each tier that way.ID: grhkapf
if they couldn't have done so they'd have focused on improving IPC instead as the way to improve from one generation to the next.
They claimed a 21% performance per clock enhancement with RDNA2 (making up part of the ~1.5x efficiency gain vs RDNA1)ID: grj721m
According to computerbase.de perf/clock actually decreased a bit.ID: grgx9dt
It was called a refresh from the start, aimed at ironing the corners that they didn't had time for RDNA1. These results aren't that surprising tbh.ID: grhdq6f
Exactly, there's always plenty of low hanging fruit on new architectures.ID: gri0bv3
It was called a refresh from the start
...no it wasn't? It's clearly not a refresh. You don't get +30% clock speed, ray tracing hardware, L3 cache etc. from a refresh. Who was calling it a refresh?ID: gri06wp
They're using Intel's tick tock method that worked pretty damn well. I'm glad AMD is no longer a dumb company they used to be. Lisa did an amazing job.
A RX 5700 XT turned out to be a very good investment if you bought it before the market went boom.ID: grj51s1
Sapphire nitro+ for £399 2 years ago babeeID: grksb9n
I had to pay 495€ 1 year ago. :/ID: grj5iyb
No seriously dude. I bought my 5700xt about three months before the new cards dropped and it has easily been the best PC investment I've made. If I didn't buy it when I did for $400 I'd have to pay the ridiculous price we're seeing nowID: grnhaw4
I helped my coworker put together a rig and he bought a red devil the week before Christmas, and I was like yeah there are better values on paper but that 5700 XT is a damn good card, had mine for about 18 months now and push it hard, like it should have died hard, lol.ID: grjgo8c
Got mine in October at around $350. Was kicking myself a bit when I saw the 3070/3080 benchmarks but glad I bought it considering the situation now.
I didn't see power consumption data for the underclocked 6700 XT. Did I miss it?ID: grh8ndr
This is what I want to see next... 6700XT at 1800 MHz undervolted as far as possible.ID: grid62o
I put that in as one of the Q&A session question
Impressive how they end up about the same at clock parity, given RDNA2 has some downgrades in the WGPs and the 6700XT in particular has half the rasterizers/prim. units than the 5700XT.
I'm curious about the power consumption on the underclocked 6700xt. They didn't say it on the video.
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hardware unavailable, nice touch!
Current games, clock for clock is nearly the same. Gains come from the huge core frequency increases with the 6700xt. AMD did increase performance per watt big time as well. Steve mentioned the 6700xt provides 30% more performance over the 5700xt while using 15% less power. While also running at a much higher frequency as well.ID: grhboul
On the same node and memory technology.
RDNA2 is a objectively a Maxwell moment.ID: grhiyic
Steve mentioned the 6700xt provides 30% more performance over the 5700xt while using 15% less power. While also running at a much higher frequency as well.
thats actually not what their power consumption chart showed. It eats as much as 2070 Super. How can that be 15% less than 5700XT at 30% higher performance ?ID: grgt4n1
its the same node but there really is a significant increase in performance and a decrease in power usageID: grh9k3w
no ; it performs the same at equal frequency.
The bus-width has been reduced and compensated with cache.
It costs less to produce and performs the same at equal clock, which is great imho.
with better efficiency, the downclocked mobile version will hopefully be more power efficient
so it's the same, but clocked higherID: grhlw5v
and with a lower power consumption so not exactly the sameID: grhm0v8
More power efficient too
You don't need an ipc improvement when you can clock to moon. Pascal was the same. Smart move by AMD to make effective use of the hardware.
Still think it should be cheaper though.
Just watch some proper reviews on Youtube. This card is not worth it nor an upgrade from the previous generation in terms of price/performance.
How AMD manages to shoot themselves in the foot every time is beyond me.ID: grh23y0
AMD intended to launch Radeon RX 5700 XT at $449 and Radeon RX 5700 XT 50th Anniversary Edition at $499, if you remember.
AMD had to cut the prices at the last minute because NVIDIA launched the GeForce RTX 2070 Super.ID: grh3fr7
Didn't the 5700XT at least reliably beat the 2070 for that price?
The 6700XT can't seem to claim the same feat, despite being more expensive (by $30 or otherwise).ID: grh3ja5
They set the shit msrp price because they know they can get away with it since all gpu are overpriced. If it's normal condition 6700 xt is doa since 3070 is only 20 more with more feature and superior ray tracing. Worst rdna 2 cards so far in terms of msrp/performance.ID: grh8sop
Actually it's better than the other 3 in frames per dollar.ID: grh2yi1
If you can get a MSRP or near MSRP RX 6700 XT, you can sell your RX 5700 XT to miners for a higher price. You can either score a free upgrade OR even make money off it all!ID: grh2y74
Yeah, and it will still sell in seconds because new gamers need a card.
Right now, gamers who need a graphic card will buy anything. Yesterday in the best 3 shops in both France & Germany, there was literally zero cards at 1060 performance level or more in stock. You could find some 2060/3060/6800XT/3080 on marketplace sites, at 3-4x msrp.
I don’t think it matters how great a card is if you can’t buy one just IMO
Well, I guess I have a 6700xt.
Alright, it looks like I have to unironically type /s in this subreddit...ID: grh31q2
Just clock it to 2.4-2.6 Ghz for the same power and add the missing DX12/Vulkan features while adding 4GB of VRAM and almost doubling the raw and effective bandwidth 😛
And then you have the 6700 XT 😛ID: grhlctx
And add ray tracing.ID: grgwha5
If you can make it run at 2.5Ghz on air, sure!ID: grgwwpx
While same powerID: grhpdp5
good one, but corporate cucks didn't appreciate the jokeID: grhs3xx
It's kinda cringe to see people take jokes against a product as personal attacks.