Is there a point in upgrading from 3700x to 5600x, performance wise in games?

1 : Anonymous2021/05/11 14:13 ID: n9xxxq

Already have MSI B550M Mortar motherboard which supports the 5600x

2 : Anonymous2021/05/11 15:21 ID: gxqle51

GPU matters.

For a 1060/480/580/etc?

No.

For a 2080Ti/3070/RDNA2? Yeah.

Upgrading from a 3800X to a 10850K brought my FPS in warzone from 120 to 160, and in CP77 from 60 to 90. (1440p). A 5600X would see a very similar uplift (IPC/raw speed matters more than the core count difference...)

3 : Anonymous2021/05/11 17:28 ID: gxr3sqt

No it’s not worth it especially at higher resolutions

ID: gxr7cwf

Yea I thought so, also with my RTX 2070. Thanks for the answer!

4 : Anonymous2021/05/11 14:42 ID: gxqfu5l

at 1440p you are fine with 3700X, I have currently a 3700X with RX6800 on a ultrawide 1440p and there is always full use of the GPU in any demanding game. There are games like dota2 where it would improve FPS, but its already in high hundreds, and would do no difference on my 100Hz monitor.

5 : Anonymous2021/05/11 17:42 ID: gxr5ue0

I upgraded from a 3600 to a 5800x paired with a 6800 xt at 1440p and my fps icnrased across the board significantly as well as 1% lows worth it to me and it should be easy to sell the 3600 too

ID: gxr7b39

Hmm, how about with my RTX 2070 at 1440p, also mines a 3700x and going to 5600x would be dropping 2 cores so I'm not sure about that with gaming, though 5600x is much better at single core which I believe most games use. I saw a vid and there was only a 10-15fps difference but at 1080p. What's your opinion with the 3700x to 5600x along with the rtx 2070 if that makes a difference from your 6800xt

ID: gxr8aiq

1080p should be a bigger difference than 1440p as 1080p is more CPU bound however not sure what the difference would be between your 2070 and my 6800 xt, either way you would get an increase whether its worth the extra money though hard to say

ID: gxrx45v

I'm using this same setup. It's a beast

ID: gxs4mir

it really is bro just happy i didnt have to pay resell lol

6 : Anonymous2021/05/11 18:30 ID: gxrcttg

Run some of the games you care about, and look at GPU usage. Does it drop significantly below 100%? Are you getting poor performance in those games when it does?

If the answer is no, then you have your overall answer.

7 : Anonymous2021/05/11 14:29 ID: gxqe1ok

You only see a benefit at 1080p and in esports titles or certain games like total war

8 : Anonymous2021/05/11 15:30 ID: gxqmoe8

Dropping from 8 to 6 cores when new games are already increasingly using 8 cores (especially with the new PS5 and Xbox X that use 8 cores) is questionable.

If you're primarily playing older games that are more single-thread limited, perhaps.

ID: gxqncf4

Yea I've run into most games using single core but in the end I'm running 1440p with my RTX 2070 so I don't think there's be much of a performance difference anyway. My brother was thinking of getting me this 5600x when I just bought this 3700x a few months ago and wanted to make sure that there wasn't too much of a difference and especially dropping cores didn't feel right to me lol. Thanks

9 : Anonymous2021/05/11 17:11 ID: gxr19n6

I would go for a 5800X though, it will get core bound in the near future thanks to the new console generation thats here now.

ID: gxr87wm

Ooh that boi looks amazing!! Yea I wasn't actually looking for a new cpu as I just purchased this 3700x but my brother offered purchasing the 5600x for my birthday today so I wanted to check it out and make sure but I was pretty sure it wouldn't make much a difference plus dropping 2 cores didn't feel right. I think by the time I want to get a new cpu it will be a 6800x or something. Do you know why they called the 8 core 3000 a 3700x and not 3800x and now the 5000 8 core is 5800x?

ID: gxrhb3a

There will probably be a 5700x at some point in time.

I personally had framedrop issues in a lot of open world games with the 3600 that I had before. Even at 4K with a 3080RTX, it just lacked the horsepower (Cyberpunk 2077, COD Warzone etc). Once in went with the 5800X it all started to run smoothly.

10 : Anonymous2021/05/11 14:56 ID: gxqhvp7

Just wait until ryzen 6000 series.

My friends are still on phenom & laptops.

So you are on a Porsche asking for a Lamborghini in their eyes.

ID: gxqnql5

Understand I don't really want the 5600x, I just bought this 3700x a few months ago and my brother was thinking of getting me this 5600x for my birthday today and I told him no cause I don't think there's much of a difference anyway but wanted to swing by here and make sure. I use 1440p on my RTX 2070 so I doubt there'd even be any difference at all and I'd be dropping 2 cores too.

ID: gxqs0pl

If you're gaming above 1080p you're a god amongst men...

that goes for anybody lol

11 : Anonymous2021/05/11 19:02 ID: gxrhltk

yes

12 : Anonymous2021/05/11 20:45 ID: gxrwkjv

sheer IPC improvements and clockspeed improvements could be a reason to still upgrade even if gpu is bottlenecking because:

-curve optimizer on 5600x could give you more power and thermal budget to overclock your 2070 and still run both cooler and faster

-it is as fast as your 3700x in multi core with 2 less cores and 4 less threads

-further affinity optimisations could bring your more fps but same goes for 3700x

i am bottlenecking my overclocked to moon rx5600xt with 3800x in cpu bound scenarios all time so for me upgrade to 5800x is most beneficial instead of increasing core count with 3000 series or going for 5600x since i am not really into that part of gaming

13 : Anonymous2021/05/11 20:48 ID: gxrwys6

If you play csgo yes

14 : Anonymous2021/05/11 21:07 ID: gxrzpyt

I upgraded from a 3700X to a 5800X and saw massive improvements in some games and smaller in others. For some weird reason, in Rainbow Six Siege I got an uplift of ~50fps from this, despite Siege already being pretty multithreaded and never exceeding 60% usage on the 3700X.

15 : Anonymous2021/05/11 14:16 ID: gxqc8iz

Technically yes but if it's worth it depends on your gpu, is it being maxed out now. If so probably not worth the upgrade for the moment. Depending on the game some of the older titles that relied on clock speed over threads may benefit though

ID: gxqd6dw

Yea thing is that I believe most games are single core dependant and the zen 3 in 5600x is better with single core compared to 3700x. Also I'm using Performance Boost Overdrive on 3700x cause I heard static over locking is bad with zen 2 so I wonder if I can overclock it the regular way with the 5600x or if I'd still need PBO, I assume the regular overclock is gonna be better in performance too than PBO. Anyway I have a RTX 2070 and not sure if it's being maxed out. Oh wait actually was just looking at a vid right now showing the performance benches with the 3700x and 5600x where it's pretty much 10 plus fps around the board for 5600x in 1080p but a comment said it wouldnt really be much difference in using 1440p which Is what I use

ID: gxqdz2l

If you're not sure if you're CPU bottlenecked, why don't you just est it instead of looking at youtube videos?

ID: gxqe8gn

I'd always use pbo on 3000 and 5000 series these days over standard overclocking. Yes the higher res you play at the less impact the CPU has so that makes sense as your GPU not CPU bound.

ID: gxqimv0

Not worth it. From what i have seen, you will only starts to see bottleneck using a 2080ti and above but even then its neglible at best experience wise at 1440p.

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