Windows 11 Megathread – Is my system compatible, TPM, Secure Boot and more

1 : Anonymous2021/06/24 23:00 ID: o7b0zl

Earlier today, Microsoft announced Windows 11, it brings many new features, such as Auto HDR, DirectStorage, as well as a UI overhaul.

Please use this thread to ask whether your system is compatible, for dedicated Windows 11 discussion, please use /

Windows 11 will be coming to Windows Insiders on the Dev ring sometime next week and will be releasing to everyone else later in the year.

Here are the system requirements for Windows 11

Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with 2 or more cores on a compatible 64-bit processor or System on a Chip (SoC)

RAM: 4 gigabyte (GB)

Storage: 64 GB or larger storage device

System firmware: UEFI, Secure Boot capable

TPM: Trusted Platform Module (TPM) version 2.0

Graphics card: Compatible with DirectX 12 or later with WDDM 2.0 driver

Display: High definition (720p) display that is greater than 9” diagonally, 8 bits per color channel

Internet connection and Microsoft accounts: Windows 11 Home and Windows 11 in S mode now require an internet connection during setup and require the use of a Microsoft Account, no more local (offline) accounts

For a list of other requirements, such as Auto HDR and DirectStorage, please see here

The most important thing here, is Windows 11, at least the Insider Preview builds will require a UEFI system, with CSM disabled and they will require TPM and Secure Boot to be enabled, Windows 10 and previous Windows Operating Systems have not had such stringent requirements.

Most modern AMD and Intel motherboards have some form of Firmware based TPM, which is different to Hardware based TPM solutions.

The first step you will want to do is make sure you are running the latest BIOS for your system.

If you are using an AMD platform, look for something called AMD fTPM or something similar, this can generally be found under the 'Security', 'Trusted Computing' or 'Advanced CPU settings' in most BIOSes.

If you are using an Intel platform, look for something called Intel IPT/PPT (Platform Trust Technology) or something similar, this can generally be found under the 'Security', 'Trusted Computing' or 'Advanced CPU settings' in most BIOSes.

TPM options are generally found in the same location as Secure Boot.

When enabling Secure Boot, you may have to set the key mode to Standard instead of Custom, before you can enable Secure Boot

When back in Windows, you can use Windows Key + R and type "tpm.msc", if it looks something like this, you are in business.

To check whether Secure Boot is enabled, you can open Windows Defender and go to Device Security, if you see this at the bottom, it means you Secure Boot is enabled.

I will update this thread if more information becomes available.

2 : Anonymous2021/06/25 00:19 ID: h2xv1gv

Looks like according to the AMD CPUs list:

Original Zen series is completely absent. This includes the 2000 series APUs.

ID: h2xvwih

That's odd. Worth noting that if that's the case the PC Health Check at least can tell that a 1600AF is Zen+, as it said my system is compatible. (After I turned on fTPM and Secure Boot anyway.)

ID: h2z7wyj

that's probably because 1600AF is a 2600 but with different stock clocks. So far it seems that I can't install W11 until I upgrade my 1600 (already enabled fTPM and Secure Boot)

ID: h2y11b3

That's just a "soft floor" requirement, just like how they only support Intel 8th gen and up.

ID: h306rnz

I hope, I have a 1700x and I've had no problems with speed. It's such a good cpu that I'm not tempted to not want to buy a new cpu

ID: h30pmf3

They updated the PC Health Check app to give some actual feedback. Mine
now says "The processor isn't supported for Windows 11." So I can
confirm that even with TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot, you will fail the check
in the app if you have a 1st gen Ryzen (I have a 1700x). As others have said, I highly doubt
that is going to prevent anyone from actually installing it on release,

3 : Anonymous2021/06/25 00:39 ID: h2xx916

Can anyone confirm whether W11 will work with fTPM, or do we have to buy a TPM 2.0 module for our motherboards?

Microsoft is casting A LOT of perfectly serviceable hardware aside for this update. Down with e-waste!

ID: h2xxlhc

Yes it works with fTPM.

ID: h2xysck

Can confirm. With fTMP enabled, PC Health Check gives W11 the thumbs-up.

4 : Anonymous2021/06/25 07:37 ID: h2z0nrr

Not impressed to see Microsoft recommend Zen1 users buy a new computer but then give a pass to Zen+.

ID: h317c34

Btw the 300G and 2000 APUs are both Zen1, but only the 300G series APU are listed. Such BS from M$.

5 : Anonymous2021/06/24 23:22 ID: h2xoqo7

Secure Boot seems unnecessary. I don't have it installed and the utility said my PC's ready for win11. (X570 Tomahawk with 5900x)

ID: h2xpdwy

Can confirm that. Tested on my X470 Taichi and on an B350 Pro4

ID: h2yie9h

It’s gonna be an annoyance for a lot of people who dual boot with Linux as well. I don’t want to have to fuck with figuring out how to get GRUB and my OS to work with that.

6 : Anonymous2021/06/26 06:29 ID: h32yyyg

My ryzen 5 1600 meets all the hard floor requirements and i have enabled UEFI mode, secure boot and TPM 2.0 then also my processor is showing not supported.

And I saw that it was supported in my freinds ryzen 5 1600.

ID: h33n7y5

Yeah, I'm pissed that my Ryzen 5 1600 didn't meet the requirements. There is nothing limiting about it. Hope there will be enough of an issue made that it will be put on the list.

7 : Anonymous2021/06/24 23:17 ID: h2xo6zs

Windows 11 Home and Windows 11 in S mode now require an internet connection during setup and require the use of a Microsoft Account, no more local (offline) accounts

Oh Microsoft, you really do want people to try gaming on Linux, don't you?

Locking group policy and local accounts behind a Pro activation is fucking stupid.

ID: h2xxe33

I don't think they care too much. Do you really think that a significant amount of people will switch to Linux just because they need to use a Microsoft account(which most are already doing anyway)?

ID: h2yood3

I don't think they care too much.

Probably not. The slight Irony is, if things start swinging - by the time Microsoft is liable to react, it won't matter.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

Now is this the year of the Linux Desktop: No. In fact I would be shocked if it turned out that this was the push that started swinging things. Thing is - every time this type of discussion pops up, another couple people consider trying out Linux, another couple people realize that what they play could just be done on Linux and another person probably has thought about it enough to give it a go.

Right now, as it stands - Gaming on Linux is better than ever before, by a huge margin. From hardware and driver support, to clean running API's, and support from Valve, and tools like Proton enabling taking DX native games and running on... Linux.

There are few things that get in the way - and pretty much every one of them is solved with enough users making the switch: How much is enough? No idea.

In other words: It's not that you are using a Microsoft account, it's that you have to. It's the lack of choice to choose privacy over contentedness - and THAT is the piece of the puzzle that seems like it's finally growing in people's consciousness.

ID: h2xw8xq

Microsoft put "Microsoft account and internet connectivity required for setup" in the minimum requirements for 11 Home, but when I tried the leaked ISO I was able to set it up without ever connecting to the internet with no issues, local account and everything. The only discrepancy was that the new widgets sidebar thing was disabled until I signed in.

And I'm suspicious of all the tech journalist articles on the subject because they're all exact copy-pastes of each other with nebulous sources, if any at all.

8 : Anonymous2021/06/25 07:14 ID: h2yz4mi

Hold up, they're making DirectStorage exclusive to W11?!

9 : Anonymous2021/06/25 01:44 ID: h2y4cgi

Fairly upset that a lot of AMD chips from 2017~2018 aren't listed as compatible. Hopefully that changes in the fall. I've got TPM 2.0, Secure Boot, and everything else as recommended.

10 : Anonymous2021/06/25 12:39 ID: h2zm5p9

Actually TPM1.2 works.

MS updated to say that was a mistake. TPM2.0 required

11 : Anonymous2021/06/27 06:48 ID: h36smcp

What's the deal with not supporting Ryzen 1000

What does Zen+ has that is lacking in Zen ?

12 : Anonymous2021/06/27 11:05 ID: h378s1u

Locking out first gen Ryzen is such an insult. Many people who switched to or returned to AMD with the release of Ryzen are being punished by Microsoft.

ID: h37s8gt

i mean its all microsoft decision, because running a intel 7th gen its not that old neither....

13 : Anonymous2021/06/25 00:24 ID: h2xvjr4

The system health thing says my PC can't run Windows 11, specs:

CPU: Ryzen 3600X
GPU: Nvidia 1660
MOBO: AsRock B450M Steel Legend
RAM: 1x8GB
Storage: 480GB SSD

I wonder if it's the TPM thing? I can't find anywhere if my CPU has it.

ID: h2xxdx5

You do have it, go to the Advanced section in your BIOS, then CPU Configuration and you should see the AMD fTPM Switch setting.

ID: h2y3cam

You're right, it really was there. But it still says I don't support it. Next suspect is UEFI, I just plug&played all the parts into my PC, I guess that has to be setup & enabled first. I'll try it and see if I can figure something out.

14 : Anonymous2021/06/26 21:09 ID: h3590th

My secure boot is on but PC Health Checker is saying it's off?

15 : Anonymous2021/06/24 23:23 ID: h2xox0x

The TPM 2.0 requirement is a huge problem.

Does MSFT really wants Joe Sixpack to go into the BIOS to turn on TPM?

ID: h2xpeqf

I think the TPM and Secure Boot requirements are to encourage new PC sales, many won't have the technical knowledge to enable these in BIOS and a lot of PCs otherwise capable of running Windows 11 won't be able to with such a requirement and Microsoft even say on their website

"These are the basic requirements for installing Windows 11 on a PC. If your device does not meet these requirements, you may not be able to install Windows 11 on your device and might want to consider purchasing a new PC."

ID: h2z9fnk

Solid idea during the chip shortage crisis of a lifetime.

ID: h2xqlsi

Secure boot as requeriment is okay because all pcs with at least sandbridge or newer has.

ID: h2zk9vk

They want Joe sucker to go buy a new computer

ID: h2xpven

MSFT wants people to buy or use relatively new hardware (2015) and doesn't care about the miniscule percentage of the market that DIY makes up. If you built your own computer you can change BIOS settings.

You were just saying in another post how it makes sense for AMD to abandon Video cards from 2015 but now Microsoft not supporting hardware from before 2015 is a problem?

16 : Anonymous2021/06/26 08:04 ID: h3357lw

How is it possible that the Ryzen 3 3100 is supported whereas the R3 3300X is not?

The later is nowhere in the list.

17 : Anonymous2021/06/24 23:27 ID: h2xp9e9

Maybe that's interesting for

interesting that they do not list the first gen Ryzen CPU's nor Threadripper

18 : Anonymous2021/06/24 23:20 ID: h2xoid1

Windows 11 Home and Windows 11 in S mode now require an internet connection during setup and require the use of a Microsoft Account, no more local (offline) accounts

Guess I'm staying on 10 then.

19 : Anonymous2021/06/25 05:25 ID: h2yqtoo

I have a MSI Z170 motherboard with 6600k. Even after enabling PPT Microsoft utility says my PC's not ready for win11. Anything else I should know about?

20 : Anonymous2021/06/25 06:01 ID: h2ytrjz

Is there a disadvantage/real risk when enabling fTPM? I have a 5900X on an Asus TUF Gaming Pro WiFi board.

ID: h325nbf

Thanks for asking this, I have the exact same setup. Bump for visibility

ID: h32q0m9

I’m worried enabling it will brick my storage. The point of TPM is encrypting the drive, which is nice if it works well but shit if you need to back it up or migrate the data

ID: h34da32

Bitlocker does the encrypting. If you do not enable bitlocker then TPM really does nothing.

21 : Anonymous2021/06/25 11:20 ID: h2zf8ls

For those with HD 7000 thru fury... make sure your card's vbios supports uefi. Quite a few r9 290 cards do not, while many 390 cards do... so look into vbios flashing.

22 : Anonymous2021/06/27 05:36 ID: h36ng5s

I guess it's hilarious that the only OFFICIALLY supported CPU's are Intel Core 8th gen and Ryzen 2000 or above. Now obviously MS isn't going to try and make 97% of the world's PC's instantly obsolete so why even pretend that older CPU's won't actually run? Of course they will. Your Skylake (Intel Core 6th gen) and Zen 1 (Ryzen 1000) will obviously run Windows 11. MS is so stupid sometimes.

ID: h36uz4o

8th intel and ryzen were release in 2017, so Microsoft just simply decided that anything <= 2017 cannot run windows 11 ....

23 : Anonymous2021/06/25 17:22 ID: h30lxa1

If this fucks up my dual boot I'm gonna be seriously pissed off

24 : Anonymous2021/06/26 01:53 ID: h32aj02

Just looks like Microsoft capitulating to Apple's UI design. I like having my bar on the left, sounds like MS is going to destroy that function.

They put the bar on the bottom middle to make it easy for touch screens. Who cares, I'm using a PC with a mouse. Don't make me abandon my preferred setup.

And don't change things do radically. Stop screwing with your customers.

I'll wait for windows 12 when they capitulate to the crowd that hates 11 and bring these features back.

25 : Anonymous2021/06/26 02:35 ID: h32ezaz

According to this MS support page I need these on:

- TPM 2.0 (also referred to as your security processor)
- Secure boot enabled

Can't get Secure Boot to show up because I don't know what DEP and UEFI MAT are.
Intel 8600k and Asrock Z370m pro4.

EDIT: had to convert my Windows install drive from MBR to GPT. Else I can't force UEFI in BIOS and just get a boot loop. Disabling CSM (Compatibility Support Module) is needed in Asrock BIOS to force UEFI.
I feel like 98% of people won't be able to upgrade to Windows 11 with all the hoops I'm being forced to jump through.


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