Worth the upgrade to a 5600x?

1 : Anonymous2021/07/06 15:32 ID: oexazo

Recently managed to get my hands on an RX 6800 and was planning on pairing it with a Ryzen 5 3600. However, given that I run on 1080p, I was wondering whether or not the 5600x would grant a substantial enough performance boost to warrant spending another $300 or if my 3600 will still do just fine at 1080p.

2 : Anonymous2021/07/06 16:18 ID: h492btp

Depends on refresh rate you run at? 60hz probably not. 240hz probably yes.

ID: h499rq9

Good point. Being limited by the display rather than cp

is rarely mentioned.

ID: h4ak36r

Literally one of the biggest oversights.

ID: h4d0bka

Even a 144 FPS can be a limit for a 3600

3 : Anonymous2021/07/06 19:23 ID: h49r3r7

I have been gaming on a 2560*1080 monitor with a 2600x and 2070 Super and I don’t feel the need for more power yet in the games I play. As long as I can still get maxed out on FH5, it’ll survive another year!

4 : Anonymous2021/07/06 20:39 ID: h4a1ou6

Keep your 3600 and enjoy your saved 300$. Not worth going from 6c to 6c in a single generational jump for 300$, at all.

5 : Anonymous2021/07/06 19:08 ID: h49p4l5

Why not spend money on better monitor tho? You can still keep your hardware.

6 : Anonymous2021/07/06 17:05 ID: h498t2h

In most games yes, the 5600X will make a difference since you are playing on 1080p. My suggestion though is to keep the 3600 and go for a better monitor, 1440p or 3440*1440. Unless you are playing competitive games and you need the fps.

ID: h4bmndq

This right here! Stick with the 3600 and enjoy her. If sometime down the line you want to upgrade to a 5000 series as long as your mobo supports it you'll at least still have that option too when the CPUs will be lower priced.

7 : Anonymous2021/07/06 18:23 ID: h49j6qd

I'd buy a 1440p 144+hz monitor instead, then there would be almost none performance difference between two cpus(not one you can perceive anyway), and you get much better gaming experience you can see.

8 : Anonymous2021/07/06 15:51 ID: h48yq7s

you can probably find the "Zen2 vs Zen3" benchmarks for the games you play at 1080p and then compare that to your monitor's spec to see if your monitor can handle the increase frame rate...

9 : Anonymous2021/07/06 15:51 ID: h48ypdp

Depends on the game but the 5600X is a significant uplift in performance over the 3600, specially in 1080p Gaming since at 1080 your CPU tends to be the bottleneck compared to a 6800 GPU.

ID: h48zg6o

If you don’t mind me asking, is the 5600x compatible with a B450 motherboard?

ID: h4915ca

You just need a compatible BIOS.

ID: h49hqpq

I just upgraded from a 2600 to a 5600X.. Working fine on my MSI B450m Mortar. The BIOS is still currently BETA, but haven't had any problems so far (~2 weeks). Was only surprised temps were a lot higher - ended upgrading my CPU fan to a Noctua U12S.

It was pretty significant upgrade for me. Noticably faster loading times in several games (eg, Subnautica) and Warzone got a ~40 FPS boost..

ID: h498yt9

Yes. I am running mine on the B450 Tomahawk. Everything works, mem oc, curve optimizer, auto oc, pbo..

ID: h48zseu

It depends on the B450 model you have. As I know some B450 boards support ryzen 5000 series with a BIOS update but not all boards do that. You have check if you're current board supports ryzen 5000 with a BIOS update.

ID: h4c8ebq

You have to go to your motherboard makers website and find the compatibility page for the specific model you have. It will list all CPU’s that it supports

10 : Anonymous2021/07/06 17:27 ID: h49bn9r

5600x is faster, but if you already have a 3600, I say save 300 bucks

11 : Anonymous2021/07/06 19:11 ID: h49pi5p

I don't think it's worth the upgrade, not for that price. Unless you have extra money to waste for a small upgrade.

12 : Anonymous2021/07/06 23:05 ID: h4ajy0z

You don't need to upgrade. Honestly what you should upgrade is your monitor. That's the real bottle neck. Your gpu is perfect for 1440p. Your cpu may bottle neck you in some places but take that money a put it towards a 1440p 144 hz monitor.

ID: h4c6ez2

Once he goes to 1440p 144hz then he marries into buying the newest card each release though.

13 : Anonymous2021/07/06 21:23 ID: h4a7f5c

If you're using a 60Hz or 75Hz monitor, I don't think it's worth upgrading the CPU right now, the 3600 still holds its own. Overclock memory and/or tighten timings instead.

14 : Anonymous2021/07/06 21:10 ID: h4a5rmy

Upgrade to 1440p 144hz instead. I play competitive shooters with a 3600 and 3060Ti, I average 144FPS in most games and the quality is amazing compared to 1080p

15 : Anonymous2021/07/06 21:55 ID: h4ab9by

So I think everything has been covered by other responses here. If I was you I would buy a better monitor and wait for the 5600x to drop in price. I'm running a 3600x + 2x8gb 3600mhz Cl15+ 3080 +4k monitor and I'm more than happy with the performance.

16 : Anonymous2021/07/06 18:43 ID: h49ltyo

No. It is almost never worth it to upgrade between 1 generation. Especially when you stay within the same tier (those 600-cpus). This applies both the CPUs and to GPUs.

ID: h4a1muz

Careful, amd fanboys are gonna downvote you even though your right especially at higher resolutions.

17 : Anonymous2021/07/06 20:10 ID: h49xly7

If you have a 500 series board I would wait to upgrade until AMD release their next CPUs by the end of the year. Or get a 5800x on sale at that time.

ID: h4a9dzm

Hold on. Isn't the 5xxx series the last on the AM4 platform?

If so, why recommend an upgrade which requires all new motherboard and parts?

ID: h4acqls

They are releasing X570S series motherboards in a short little while. If this was the last generation, I don't think all the AIBs would be designing/tweaking and releasing new boards if a new socket was 4-5 months away. AMD showed a 5900x with extra 3d stacked on it at the last Computex to be released by the end of the year. Question is if these will be called something like 5900XT, or a new 6000 series. Some are saying these were just used as a demo to show the new 3D cache stacking tech, but AMD clearly stated that these specific CPUs will be out before the end of the year. Last I heard October 2022 is when most are expecting Zen4 and a new socket at the earliest. Possibly later.

18 : Anonymous2021/07/07 15:18 ID: h4d1r08

If you're looking to spend $300 on a 5000 series I would recommend the 5800X instead for $30 more.

19 : Anonymous2021/07/06 16:44 ID: h495y1y


20 : Anonymous2021/07/06 17:18 ID: h49ajwc

If you want to upgrade this gen the do it personally waiting for am5 and ddr5

21 : Anonymous2021/07/06 18:22 ID: h49j3d9

A good CPU is more important at 1080p than at 1440p and 4k, generally speaking. That is because the GPU is stressed less, and often times the FPS you get is limited to your CPU being able to feed the GPU (this is why with a strong CPU and GPU, people can pump out hundreds of frames @ 1080p).

The 5600x is a significant upgrade over the 3600. However, it is the weakest of the Ryzen 5000 lineup, and yes, you would see an increase in performance with a 5800x-5950x

But, given the perceived budget, and 5600x is a fine, fine choice.

22 : Anonymous2021/07/06 16:08 ID: h490zes

Not for AAA which are generally GPU bound, but possibly in some competitive games or CPU bound games (e.g MMOs. Can expect a 30% uplift with some outliers (70-80% in CSGO/Valorant)

ID: h49j0ld

You will see an uplift is nearly every game with a 5600x over a 3600. It would be an edge case if the performance was the same.

Not to say the 3600 isnt a great CPU, because it is great.

23 : Anonymous2021/07/06 19:56 ID: h49vobd

What framerate are you aiming at? Because at 1080p + 6800XT you're looking at 120-240 at least right? In that case definitely go for the 5600X. If you're going 1080p75/1440p75/4k60 the cpu won't make any difference in the majority of games

24 : Anonymous2021/07/06 16:33 ID: h494eq9

For me, at 1440p, upgrading from my 3600x to a 5600x was not worth the price. I would hold out until the next gen.

25 : Anonymous2021/07/07 20:54 ID: h4ebofj

I would honestly wait, the 3600 gives great performance per dollar as is. Take it with a grain of salt though, I keep all my hardware because I like collecting stuff.

I went from a 1600AF, to a 3600XT, then to a 5800X and noticed quite a bit of uplift at 1440P.

I also have the RX6800

26 : Anonymous2021/07/07 20:45 ID: h4eafm2

Upgraded from 3600X to 5600X with RTX 3070 and honestly, beside cyberpunk and emulators i don't see that much of a difference, fps is higher in CPU bound scenarios especially cyberpunk which jumped from ~35 to ~60 with RT and Max details in city but overall its not that noticeable, btw with 6800 on hand i recommend you to turn on Virtual Super Resolution (VSR) and run games at 1440+

27 : Anonymous2021/07/07 20:40 ID: h4e9tcm

What games do you play at 1080p. CoD? High FPS games? Then processor power matters

28 : Anonymous2021/07/07 17:05 ID: h4dgds0

If you play on 1080P, it's worth!!!

If you are 2k/4kuser, it's not worth to upgrade when you are using zen2/10thintel.

29 : Anonymous2021/07/07 16:06 ID: h4d8bx4

Not worth cuz ur paying double to get like 15% improvement. If u're playing competitive fps titles like csgo and valorant, 3600 is enough for >200fps already. If ur going for AAA titles that requires the latest GPU, ur probably gonna be GPU bottlenecked.

30 : Anonymous2021/07/07 15:15 ID: h4d1e2j

My amd 5600xt blew up. Yay. Maybe I’ll get a gpu next year or RMA

31 : Anonymous2021/07/07 14:46 ID: h4cxkd5

I am upgrading to r5 5600x today from my r5 3600x. I am also rocking an rtx 3070 ftw3. My reasoning is as following: - I play competitive Valorant (Top 3000) on 1080p - I have a 280 Hz monitor - During the moments when all the characters start using their abilities etc during actual games, my fps dips below 200fps often (as low as instantaneous 160fps) even though over all i get around 240hz. - 5600x is on sale on amazon.ca - I saw from my friend that he is running a 5600x with 3070 and getting high 300fps constantly. - I am selling my old r5 3600x for 250CAD$ tonight and I spent 360CAD$ on r5 5600x so basically its a 110$ difference.

Hey, I can let you know how I like it after I install it!

32 : Anonymous2021/07/07 10:10 ID: h4c79il

I have the Gigabyte 5600XT and get pretty decent FPS in most games on 1080p, even with the aging R5 1600X. I have a 144Hz monitor and most esports games keep the refresh high enough. I am sure it would get a really nice boost with a better CPU like the 3600 or 5600. Overall I am very happy with the card, specially since I bought it a month or two before the prices went berzerk.

33 : Anonymous2021/07/07 10:00 ID: h4c6nc9

I upgraded from a 3600 and I have 50-60 FPS extra now In some games , min improvement is like 50 FPS

34 : Anonymous2021/07/07 09:59 ID: h4c6lm8


35 : Anonymous2021/07/07 09:59 ID: h4c6k36

If I may carjack this thread to ask the same question, but with a 7 1700 instead of a 5 3600 ?


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