Gabe Newell says Steam Deck storage is replaceable & upgradable via 2230 M.2 NVMe SSD slot, all versions use the same motherboard

1 : Anonymous2021/07/16 23:53 ID: olt59j
Gabe Newell says Steam Deck storage is replaceable & upgradable via 2230 M.2 NVMe SSD slot, all versions use the same motherboard
2 : Anonymous2021/07/17 00:09 ID: h5gltg4

Wow. That $399 version is going to sell like hotcakes.

ID: h5hg9yi

And get modded like crazy.

ID: h5hyacx

M.2 to PCIe adapter!

ID: h5i8wtq

Modded in which sense? Platform is said to be completely open.

Wanna install windows? Sure.

Wanna install other stuff? Yeah.

I think amazing part is that power of that thing roughly matches PS4.

So, something people expected from Switch/Nvidia (which is about 3 times weaker) was actually delivered by AMD.

Based on the interview their goal is to fill "mobile PC gaming" niche. It's not about making money on hardware at all.

Nintendo should feel threatened. Not only cross-lats, but likely the even Switch exclusive titles will likely run faster (emu) on AMD's APU.

Good luck with that OLED bump, clowns.

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ID: h5i1vh0

With flair like that, you are probably the target customer. Either you play a ton of smaller games that run fine on less powerful hardware, or you are cool playing games at console like frame rates. That isn't a dig, honestly, you should look into it, bet you will have a riot with this thing.

ID: h5i5486

Hehe. I remember how some people were saying that they weren't gonna get the $399 version because of storage issues. I hella glad I reserved the 64GB eMMc model within an hour.

3 : Anonymous2021/07/17 02:49 ID: h5h3w7u

Ffs really? I opted to reserve a 256gb just in case there wasn't an m.2 slot in it.

ID: h5h4qca

To be fair, you're gonna have a bitch of a time finding a 2230 SSD that's bigger than 128gb, anyway, so it's not like it's a bad idea to upgrade.

... Plus we don't know how dangerous an upgrade this will be to do.

FWIW, I figure a good UHS-I microsd will be good enough for my purposes. I've had slower spinning rust before, after all.

ID: h5hcopo

To be fair, you're gonna have a ***** of a time finding a 2230 SSD that's bigger than 128gb

Just to set the record straight, here are your two cheapest, readily available 1TB options. One is a $180 OEM SSD from Dell that is slower but the cheapest around by far. The other is a still relatively cheap (for M.2 2230), $230 housed Toshiba Kioxia BG4, the fastest NVMe available in this form factor, requiring a quick and easy harvesting job. Either will get the job done:

Details for harvesting:

EDIT: Let me try adding onto this with a killer deal I found while scrolling through the Steam Deck search results on Twitter. There is a $120 (that's the lowest auto-accepted offer price) refurbished 1TB NVMe on eBay right now too.

ebay (dot) com/itm/174838952402

This is apparently just as fast as the Toshiba XG6 KXG6AZNV1T02 I linked, only HALF the price!

ID: h5hlnzy

Not in the US, but I can find plenty of 512 GB and 256 GB 2230 SSDs in my country for about $100 converted from the local currency.

ID: h5hwfvc

Well, assuming the Steam Deck will sell like hotcakes, im thinking that more manufacturers will start looking at the 2230 form factor more seriously and start releasing more NVMe offerings in that size.

ID: h5hkvmj

I would have loved to see a full size SD card slot on the Steam Deck as I've got 5+ 128GB SD cards already.

Oh well.

ID: h5hirf5

You can cancel for free within 30 days, no?

ID: h5hyl8j

You can cancel anytime,il in the first 30 days it goes back on the bank account, afterwards it stays in the steam wallet

ID: h5hknq5

From what I gather, usually, until it ships, you can cancel.

I guess maybe they pocket the $5 at most.

I got screwed over, they don't steam for ages and they said that I was not a member long enough LOL.

Then after all that waiting they offer up a 2022 pre-order!

I will get one going to mop the crap out of it!

ID: h5i254w

Same. I think the original IGN reveal specifically said it would not be upgradable. And they had two Steam Deck devs in the room. So, either two devs didn't know what they were talking about, or Gabe is going to piss the devs off and make them change the design two months before releasing lol.

ID: h5i9nyi

Or they absolutely are not meant to be upgradeable. Being 'technically' able to do something is very different from supporting it.

You will be on your own if you decide to try this. Valve does not want you cracking the thing open to play with the insides.

4 : Anonymous2021/07/17 03:39 ID: h5h92ql

Keep in mind that 2230 SSDs are more expensive than the far more common 2280s. If you're expecting to pay about $110 for a 1tb SSD, you're gonna be disappointed to find out that the cheapest ones are $180-$200

ID: h5hb0d4

Which would still be a better deal than buying the top end Steam Deck.

ID: h5hmhqc

It requires you to open the steam deck up, some people don't wanna do it, and peace of mind is worth something

ID: h5i8ats

Fingers crossed it's just the housing that prevents a 2242 from being installed. Can't wait for the teardowns.

ID: h5i60qc

Sure, but at least you know you can do it. With 16 GB of RAM and expandable storage, I can see this thing lasting you for a veeery long time. Also, SSD prices go down, and being able to put 1tb in, in a couple of years for 100$, instead of being stuck or having to buy a new one is certainly the best possible outcome any way you look at it.

ID: h5i94b4

Also, SSD prices go down

This would still require 2230 to be continually supported with high quantities going forward. Very questionable at this point outside OEM products.

ID: h5i4nn1

At least it can be done, though. 500GB was straight up not going to work for me. A TB is a lot better.

5 : Anonymous2021/07/17 05:04 ID: h5hgzum

is this real because the IGN guys that did the interview asked and the team of engineers said the ssd was soldered on and not replaceable?

i reserved the 512gb one anyway because of the tempered glass anti glare screen. thats one thing i hate about my switch is i can see myself in the reflection.

ID: h5hkain

Yes, it is.

says All models use socketed 2230 m.2 modules (not intended for end-user replacement) All models include high-speed microSD card slot Still, I am also reserved 512GB option and don’t regret it. Here, where I live, 2230 ssds are rare and expensive, so it’s a pretty good value anyways.

ID: h5iubob

Plus it might be a bit of a headache taking that thing apart, it's probably packed together tighter than Gaben's wallet.

6 : Anonymous2021/07/17 01:34 ID: h5gvkq2

This is just some random person on YouTube claiming this. Does anyone have a more reliable source?

EDIT: Turns out the source is a Reddit post! So instead of watching a screenshot of Reddit on YT, you can give an upvote to the original post:

/comments/olp163/was_wondering_if_the_steam_deck_will_have_a/" class="reddit-press-link" target="_blank" rel="noopener">

ID: h5gwfdp

steam deck spec sheet has been updated.

ID: h5h76ck

Now that is a reliable source, thank you!

ID: h5gxu4d

Claiming what? One is Gabe Newell and the other is one of the lead developers for the steam deck.

ID: h5hgjsz

Second screenshot in the comments of the same post:

/comments/olp163/was_wondering_if_the_steam_deck_will_have_a/h5g3umy/" class="reddit-press-link" target="_blank" rel="noopener">

ID: h5hxrr4

The steam website itself says it is socketed. It also says it’s not mean to be user replaceable so it’s probably buried

ID: h5hyrch

Yesterday it didn't. The website got updated some hours ago

7 : Anonymous2021/07/17 02:58 ID: h5h4v5o

Yes instant buy

8 : Anonymous2021/07/17 09:04 ID: h5hyfw7

Slap a keyboard, a power bank and you have a portable PC for work 🙂

9 : Anonymous2021/07/17 01:01 ID: h5grtwv

You can technically but it's difficult to open up. The slot's hidden behind more components than in the average laptops. If it's popular enough who knows, maybe some electronics store would offer service to replace the ssd for a small fee

ID: h5hczo4

The slot's hidden behind more components than in the average laptops.

Nope, they confirmed also that it is just within an EMI and thermal shield. In the case of the Surface Pro X and Pro 7+ which also have an M.2 2230 slot, it equates to just this flimsy metal that pops right off. No biggie.

They are only trying to dissuade people from doing an upgrade so they can ensure the upsell. That said, I am going for the 512GB model's exclusive anti-glare etched glass so they got me hooked there.

ID: h5gsg95

How do you know? Are you assuming things now or have proof? The back has 9 simple screws as far as I can see and it can just be as simple as removing the back and a straight forward replacement.

ID: h5guq0i

If that image is real, that plagman dude's a valve developer

10 : Anonymous2021/07/17 03:12 ID: h5h6a25

All models use socketed 2230 m.2 modules (not intended for end-user replacement)

11 : Anonymous2021/07/17 06:24 ID: h5hnetx

Would have been all over this if it were up for preorder in NZ. Doesn't Gaben live here?

12 : Anonymous2021/07/17 08:01 ID: h5hubbr

Reserved, this just makes it a dream. Portable emu machine, here we go!!!!

13 : Anonymous2021/07/17 08:15 ID: h5hv7ho

Fuck me if that's true I'd buy this even tho I don't actually need it. Feels really nice to get to play your game anywhere in your house (especially in the bed)

14 : Anonymous2021/07/17 11:39 ID: h5i8q3i

This is huge. Absolutely amazing. I have a renewed sense of respect towards steam / gave now. As long as they support it well, this thing looks like it’ll be a real switch competitor.

15 : Anonymous2021/07/17 06:07 ID: h5hm4oy

This is the best gaming console in a long while... Ironically its a full pc lol.

16 : Anonymous2021/07/17 08:43 ID: h5hx2cm

True but it's Important to note it will be tricky to find one of those SSDs for not pretty expensive and even than looking at the spec it seems like the lowest end model only has the slot PCIe gen 2 x1

17 : Anonymous2021/07/17 09:03 ID: h5hycol

Yessssss!!! Amazing news!

I was worried that I wouldn't be able to get one because those nvme models are expensive

18 : Anonymous2021/07/17 11:50 ID: h5i9imo

Annnnnd just reserved one. Damn, I REALLY hope this does inspire some massive confidence in this platform. Everything hardware related from Valve so far has been top notch, and even when they discontinue selling them they support for a long time - or at least build in the option of open community support. Incredibly stuff


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