- Can anybody explain why we can't get finished games anymore? but have to pay large amount of money for them
And yet you fork over money anyway...
But because the bigger companies know they can pull this bullshit. And it fucking works every time.ID: hkgr0q5
Not only forking over money for unfinished buggy games... But still pre-ordering the next game from the same company that released a buggy unfinished game.
Why would a company make a polished product when they already have made all their profit 2 years before they even released the game?ID: hkh9ujb
I've sworn 100 percent to stop doing this. I hope other people stop it too. No matter how sure you are it will be good. don't preorder.ID: hkggf4r
Exactly. Why do they keep doing this? Because they're profiting by doing this.
We stop buying, they'll have to change their approach. It's that simple.ID: hkhku30
All we'd have to do is let the reviewers go first. It's not even a lot of patience required, were talking about waiting until 48 hours after release to buy digital copies.ID: hkfzl2f
I was super nervous buying the new Jurassic Park game the other day... I fucking hate what this industry has become. When you have to hesitate, and basically sleep on a decision as petty as buying a damn game on launch, something has gone SERIOUSLY fucking wrongID: hkh0f6p
Have you played Outer Wilds? It’s a unique indie game with a cult following and kinda an example of games as an art form. There’s a small amount of gameplay overlap with Subnautica when it comes to self directed discovery storytelling.
The gameplay is all about exploring a bizarre solar system in a space ship and putting the pieces of mysteries together. So it’s hard to recommend because it’s best experienced going in blind. It’s one of those games people wish they could wipe their memory of so they can experience it fresh again.ID: hkh3b3a
I always wait until a game is on sale, full price is just not in my budget and typically within a month or two does there’s a 20% off discount. Much better.
The except is just about anything Naughty Dog puts out. Their games are consistently well built from the start. They may occasionally release features later on, like Multiplayer in TLOU2, but that’s it’s own thing.
Also I suppose I’ll probably pay full price for most thing From Software related.ID: hkgicp1
Yeah, you don't have to pay for them. It's not like we have a shortage of games to play.ID: hkhf7aw
It's why I love communities like, they're my tribe.
You can play the same game for 1/5th the cost, fully patched, reviewed up and down by everyone with an opinion... But all you gotta do is wait.
For the last couple years I've been doing one big discount sale game purchase around Christmas (easy way to gift friends who live far as well) and otherwise playing through this incredible catalogue of games I've built up on Steam over the years.
I can beat ~12 games a year, so $100 bucks to me in one of these sales is basically a years worth of games.
I personally feel that when a "finished" game is $5-10, I actually enjoy them more since I am less concerned about getting my money's worth and more focused on actually playing something I enjoy.ID: hkgyauc
it fucking works every time.
Until you all stop forking over big cash like Fry from Futurama this will never stop. You all should destroy Battlefield for it. Announce and stick to not buying the next battlefield game regardless of whatever they do. Same with the next rockstar game. Demand some quality and play hardball or deal with being treated like a sucker.ID: hkhrb1c
You're exactly right.
I refrained from buying GTA DE although I've been dying to play it. If we don't speak with our wallets, this is nonsense will never end.ID: hkghj2v
Ya I fell for it too but fuck that shit I just refunded
Money obviously, the answer the basically anything is always moneyID: hkfyieo
I don't get how someone can buy these games and be ok with their state.. wtfID: hkfz09h
They probably are not ok with the state but they got tricked so now they feel obligated to like the games.
If enough people said no and didnt buy half assed games they would stop this shit. Yet everytime theres enough people buying it to keep the shit aliveID: hkhfuxp
For every patient gamer there are 20 kids who buy it anyways.ID: hkhrxk0
This. Because you dumb motherfuckers keep buying them.
The last 20 games I've bought have all been indie games, and the rest I play through gamepass.
Same. Indie games and old games are the way. Less expensive too.
Solution: don’t preorder games. Simple. Please my fellow gamers, this is all we need to do, come together as one community and stop sinking our money into unreleased unfinished games.ID: hkh3wf6
Truth is majority of pre-orderers probably are kids excited for the game. They usually learn but new kids come along to make the mistake. I’m afraid it’s gonna be like this for a long while now.ID: hkhguho
Truth is majority of pre-orderers probably are kids excited for the game
Lmao, kids don't have money. The truth is the majority of preorders are going to be young adults that want instant gratification.
It's called pre-orders.
Stop doing it.ID: hkgqdky
The last game I pre-ordered was twilight princess, on GameCube, before the Wii was even announcedID: hkgx69z
For me it was breath of the wild on wii u, before the switch was announced. And before Amazon prime got rid of the discount on preorders.
I've given up. I'm just going to stop buying any video game until it's been out at least a month. If it's still in the "game launch dumpster fire" stage a month after launch then I'm just going to write it off as a loss and move on.
Stop buying broken games. It's not like we don't all have easy access to resources to find out what state a game is in before we buy.ID: hkgo6mc
I never buy on release. I wait a bit just for the sake of hearing various reviews. Also, I know there are going to be some updates to fix bugs in those first few weeks.ID: hkhabla
Or, shop indie.ID: hkhbrrs
"And", not "or". And you still have to be careful there because there are a million indie games that just live in "early access" forever. Some are still worth playing. Others are vapor-ware.
Because you fuckers keep paying
The funny part about this is YOU don't have to pay them anything, yet you do.
All of these games had big time alarms before release.
Because gamers have created a market of online based games that don't need any sort of character or storyline developments or changes because developers can just release shitty new guns and skins and people keep buying. It's like a keeping up with the Jones situation but keeping up by having the most useless crap.
Because brain-dead idiots keep giving corporations $60+ dollars, months to years in advance, for a product that they only saw a single trailer or 10-minutes of curated gameplay for. Pre-ordering is what's causing this problem, people keep giving money for promises that don't have to be legally upheld outside of a game in your hand.
You want to pre-order because of the convenience of reserving a game copy? Do it no more than a month in advance because at that point the game should've already gone out to be put on discs.
Because people are gonna buy it anyway so why would they ever make an actual effort? Call of Duty could be a game about monkeys slinging shit but if they named it Call of Duty: Forerunner or whatever people would still buy it.
Millions of people probably bought Slyrim’s latest anniversary edition even though it’s poor value, so why would Bethesda bother making good games anymore when they can just keep re-releasing the same game for a decade?
Why would Rockstar put effort in the Definitive Edition when they’re still making millions through shark cards on GTA V?
Gamers are complacent and divided. Whenever criticism is levied against a game you got a pile of dipshits coming out of the woodworks saying gamers are entitled karens, and that we should be grateful to have been given an opportunity to play these games. So the industry will keep getting worse until it implodes like in the 80s.ID: hkhhq28
Call of Duty could be a game about monkeys slinging shit but if they named it Call of Duty: Forerunner or whatever people would still buy it.
Far Cry Primal looks around nervouslyID: hkghhs2
On a more serious note, Todd Howard literally said, when asked about why they kept re-realising Skyrim or something, "people keep buying it". That's why we'll still have Skyrim releases coming up for years to come xD.
I feel like nowadays you can only trust indies. Great companies can do whatever they want and people will buy from them anyway, as you say. And they know it.
Cuz yall keep buying them
Same seems to be happening in the movie indursty, i mean that corporate people seems to be pretty darn short-sighted and rushing games and movies thinking that we will forget and promising that the next game will deliver. It's true that people still preorder games from those companies to this day but more and more this keeps happening and we keep talking about them eventually (i hope) we will learn not to preorder no matter how tempting it may be.
This modern day short-sightedness is truly sad when you think about for example Resident Evil 3 remake. Otherwise fairly good game but really short and in my opinnion Nemesis was ruined for second half of that game. And now we have to wait years for proper remake or worse no new remake at all.
Erm, I’m sorry, what was the issue with CoD Vanguard? Bought it this past Sunday and I’m having an absolute blast with the game. Campaign is awesome and multiplayer has tons of different maps.ID: hkhfywb
Nothing. It’s just the COD bad circle jerkID: hkgqgri
I haven’t seen much bitching about Vanguard, but I haven’t seen many posts about it at all either. I guess no news is good news? But perhaps it just doesn’t really make any impression either way.ID: hkgsntc
Yeah. I didn't even know there was a new CoD game until this post. I should have known CoD and BF release hand in hand, so it should have been obvious. But i've seen no marketing at all for it.ID: hkhsaym
Im in the Vanguard sub, the only problems really are that some guns are OP, the TTK is a little too low, and some maps have horrible spawns. So pretty much just the standard usual problems that cod has every year, not anything that makes it unfinished like OP’s post claimsID: hkh3z4b
I was gonna say the same thing. Got it last Friday and haven't had any issues with it other than a random crash here and there. What's wrong with it?ID: hkhk120
No no no, you’re not allowed to enjoy video games anymore, didn’t you get the memo?
Because they can. We, as a whole community not as individuals, accepted it and in some cases even defended this practice. So there no reason to put more effort in it.
Because it works, unfortunately.
People keep shelling out their cash. Why would they put so much effort when we’ve shown them we don’t care in the product they’ve made? We blindly accept any and all unfinished game always assuming they’ll change or fix it. Vote with your dollar and quit falling for hype and preorders. The market needs to change and it starts with us.