If RE didn’t evolve, it would have died Alone In The Dark in a Silent Hill amidst Dead Space.

1 : Anonymous2021/04/05 15:42 ID: mknm8d
If RE didn't evolve, it would have died Alone In The Dark in a Silent Hill amidst Dead Space.
2 : Anonymous2021/04/05 17:26 ID: gth3r1o

The original formulae were never at risk, just companies trying to force them in the wrong direction. Resident Evil was the only one that swallowed its pride and did a 180.

ID: gtj0t08

In all fairness Capcom also gave it a lot more chances. Dead Space had one bad entry and it got iced. Most franchises go down hill for years before getting taken out back and shot.

ID: gthkhw6

And even then it's going back. Personally I find survival horror RE and Action RE both good when done well. REmake is the best example of survival horror and 4 is the best action RE, with 6 behind it. (That's personal because I love it's camp to death and the gameplay is rather fun once you get into the flow). I hope Capcom finds a way to balance both styles, which might be what Village is going for. If it doesn't work there hopefully they keep the two styles separate.

ID: gthpgja

is resident evil 4 really that good? i am a newbie in the series and just finished re:2 remake and absolutely loved it. the gameplay loop of exploring, looting solving puzzles and opening shortcuts were so refreshing to me and everyone puts 4 at the top of their list but it looks so different than what i have experienced in re:2 which should i play next ? re7 or revelations 2 looks really good to me or i can just continue with re3 remake and then 4

3 : Anonymous2021/04/05 18:29 ID: gthc2yj

I miss silent hill 🙁

4 : Anonymous2021/04/05 17:59 ID: gth82u0

I miss silent hill. That was such a good series.

5 : Anonymous2021/04/05 18:59 ID: gthfyu7

Man, I still remember the hype for Silent Hills, and I think it was justified, that PT was one of the most really scary experience I've ever seen, and I only watched trough pure gameplay because I didn't have a PS4, I really think konami canceled what it could've been a contender for the greatest horror game ever made.

6 : Anonymous2021/04/05 19:40 ID: gthlcqn

Dead Space was a victim of greed.
EA were forcing all kinds of things into the series that weren't wanted.
DS2 had forced multiplayer.
DS3 had forced co-op(which also forced a lot of story changes) and was one of the first games to have MTX.
It was a combination of MTX and the changes to the story brought about by the forced co-op that caused DS3 to be dramatically different from its predecessors which in turn led to poor sales(at least by EA standards) ultimately leading to EA putting the franchise on indefinite hiatus before closing the studio thanks to forcing them into a project that they had no experience working with.
Had Visceral been left to make the game they wanted with DS3 we might have had a couple of sequels by now.

7 : Anonymous2021/04/05 20:49 ID: gthuhp8

I still think an Alone in the Dark reboot could really do well. Just go back to it's roots with exploring a haunted mansion and good spooky combat and puzzles.

8 : Anonymous2021/04/06 02:27 ID: gtiysei

Dead space didn't die, it was MURDERED!

9 : Anonymous2021/04/05 22:58 ID: gtiac78

Exactly. I feel like not enough people understand this.

ID: gtiaj2c

Thank you. Just look at the comment section here lol.

ID: gtib56f

Add to the list:

Fatal Frame


and, may be a bit premature, but I can't help but feel like,

The Evil Within

10 : Anonymous2021/04/06 02:04 ID: gtiw5b9

Don’t forget F.E.A.R.

11 : Anonymous2021/04/06 01:03 ID: gtip2yc

Where's Clocktower, Fatal Frame and Siren?

12 : Anonymous2021/04/06 01:50 ID: gtiuk8u

Silent hill is currently covered in bandages, in a cast, using crutches and saying "You can't get rid of me that easily."

13 : Anonymous2021/04/06 02:41 ID: gtj0bdk

You left out The Evil Within....

14 : Anonymous2021/04/05 23:22 ID: gtid9vi

I heard there's a Silent Hill pachinko game

15 : Anonymous2021/04/06 00:18 ID: gtijpv9

Huge F for Dead Space and Silent hill.

Just played through SH 1 and 2 and they were phenomenal. Dead Space 1 and 2 are awesome, if you have an RE4 itch, but i refuse to touch 3 for what should be self evident reasons.

16 : Anonymous2021/04/05 16:54 ID: gtgzii3

To be fair Resident Evil almost did die, but Capcom actually listened thankfully and went back to the roots of the series whilst still managing to innovate the formula.

ID: gth0bys

I assume you're talking about RE6. Gatekeeping fans may emotionally refer to it as the worst RE that almost killed the franchise but it has above average reviews and is still the 2nd best selling RE game.

Capcom intended for 4,5, and 6 to be the action trilogy and they have confirmed it. After 6, they had a ton of money so they just used it for multiple projects (Revelations, Ethan games, and remakes).

ID: gthcq9h

Do you have a link to that claim that Capcom intended for 4-6 to be the action trilogy? That's really interesting I've never heard that

17 : Anonymous2021/04/05 19:01 ID: gthg7vq

This Comment section: “I didn’t like one or two games in the franchise, so that means that the franchise is dead.”

Games are going to change. I thought RE7 sucked. First person was the horror game trope of the time and it tried too hard to be scary and it just wasn’t. But I’m still gonna play RE8 cause I like the majority of the franchise. Cause I’m open to shit changing.

ID: gtidc29

Exactly what I hate about many RE fans. They will make Pepe Silvia level charts to explain why 5 and 6 sold so well (and got decent reviews especially 5) only because of marketing/past RE games but won't do that for the older games financial success.

I've been playing RE since the 90s. I am excited like a little girl for anything RE related. The series shaped me in many ways. Hell my meme/streaming channel is called Resident Reveler.

ID: gtihjjt

I get the feeling. My childhood was the Halo games and that community never gives it time to change and/or let the Dev’s vision come full circle, so I just don’t participate in the community side of things anymore. In the case of Resident Evil I started with RE:6. Which Was 8 Years ago. Since then I’ve played all main line titles plus a couple of the spin offs. I even fished out the money to get a PS1 to play the original RE:3 before the remake came out. That’s all thanks to RE:6.

18 : Anonymous2021/04/06 01:22 ID: gtirat2

Resident Evil survived... Just barely.

I sure was completely hopeless after playing RE6.

19 : Anonymous2021/04/05 18:53 ID: gthf8ar

I'm sure other people have already mentioned this somewhere in this thread, but the potential these games had and how their companies followed through with releases doesn't affect to me whether they're truly dead or not. Separately - SH1 will probably remain my favorite video game of all time as long as I'm able to play it...so, it doesn't matter if a newer game comes out, I won't consider it a dead game/series. If RE as a series had ended at 4 and capcom never made another game after that...as long as I could play what came before and get that enjoyment out of them, I wouldn't consider it dead. All that being said, the shutting down of the psn stores definitely makes what I just said irrelevant to people who don't already own those original games...I suppose to them, these could be considered dead series.

20 : Anonymous2021/04/05 22:17 ID: gti5iac

Dead Space and Dead Space 2 are on my all-time list. Maybe just maybe Resident Evil 4 makes that cut.

21 : Anonymous2021/04/05 23:17 ID: gticm6u

Dead Space 3 was one of the biggest gaming slaps in the face Ive ever experienced.

22 : Anonymous2021/04/06 00:37 ID: gtim1kp

Yes. This is why people who say RE4 was the "downfall" of the series needs to stfu

24 : Anonymous2021/04/06 02:04 ID: gtiw4x3

God I miss Dead Space

25 : Anonymous2021/04/06 02:43 ID: gtj0k65

AITD3 could be remastered and it would be incredibly enjoyable. In fact they all could be and they would be. I tried to play AITD3 a few years ago and it was slow. And clunky. Graphics were poor but nostalgia set in so it wasn’t too bad. Crashed a lot tho

26 : Anonymous2021/04/05 17:46 ID: gth6e2a

It's almost as if RE is a franchise with a variety of styles.

27 : Anonymous2021/04/05 17:51 ID: gth72zl

Yeah... there's the 3rd person shooter from 2004, the 3rd person shooter from 2009, the 3rd person shooter from 2012, the 3rd person shooter from 2015, the first person shooter from 2017, the 3rd person shooter from 2019, and the third person shooter from 2020.

Such variety.

28 : Anonymous2021/04/06 17:58 ID: gtlfn50

RE7 felt much more like the classic games than I expected, aside from the perspective being first-person. And RE2make was a fantastic return to form, too.

29 : Anonymous2021/04/06 18:50 ID: gtlmttd

This is true. Unfortunately that brief return to form already seems to be over with RE8 basically confirmed to be a first person RE4.

30 : Anonymous2021/04/06 04:02 ID: gtj8uk9

cries in condemned

31 : Anonymous2021/04/06 04:45 ID: gtjclrl

Ironically most of those franchises went down the same exact path resident evil did. They abandoned their survival horror elements for more action gameplay and then once the franchise was tanking the companies killed them. Capcom was the only one to finally bring the series back to its roots with resident evil 7. Konami attempted to do that with silent hills but then decided to suicide itself because the company is run by retards.

32 : Anonymous2021/04/06 05:13 ID: gtjevbd

The original dead space hit so hard please lemme get just a graphical upgrade

33 : Anonymous2021/04/06 05:19 ID: gtjfcsz

If Dead space ever gets the remaster treatment it’s a straight up day one purchase

34 : Anonymous2021/04/06 06:25 ID: gtjk1ta

Is it really alive though

35 : Anonymous2021/04/06 07:08 ID: gtjmu5f

I don't know if dead space really fits in with the rest. It was an entirely different generation of video games. Alone in the dark came out 16 years before dead space.

Also Dead Space as a franchise was only active for like five years. RE is pushing 15.

36 : Anonymous2021/04/06 11:38 ID: gtk487k

15? Capcom celebrated its 25th anniversary just recently.

37 : Anonymous2021/04/06 16:26 ID: gtl30rp

...I'm so old.

38 : Anonymous2021/04/06 10:06 ID: gtjxhdk

Please... Dead Space is still a sore subject. PT too.

39 : Anonymous2021/04/06 11:29 ID: gtk3f7x

Cannot compare RE with those smaller franchises. Lol

RE is the american dominative survival.horror in gaming industry.

40 : Anonymous2021/04/06 11:36 ID: gtk40mo

"American Dominaive"

RE is a Japanese franchise.

Dead Space aimed to be that American Dominative horror franchise.

41 : Anonymous2021/04/06 11:37 ID: gtk45ni

Hey, it's just like Power Rangers case, though.

Still does not change the fact that RE is equivalent to Disney in horror gaming industry of America.

42 : Anonymous2021/04/06 14:02 ID: gtkjl96

The Callisto Protocol looks to be another gem from the original Dead Space devs, don’t count them out just yet!

43 : Anonymous2021/04/06 14:07 ID: gtkk7id
44 : Anonymous2021/04/06 14:11 ID: gtkkqkl

I wouldn’t read too much into that

"The Callisto Protocol's connection with PUBG is not gonna be really deep but there will be little connections here and there, and we'll probably be referencing one another from time to time, but it'll make more sense once the game comes out."

Thinking it’ll be similar to how Alan Wake is connected to Control. It’s not going to be a big a deal

45 : Anonymous2021/04/06 20:47 ID: gtm31fx

God this hurts...

46 : Anonymous2021/04/05 17:40 ID: gth5jms

In my opinion RE died in 2004 with Outbreak. Everything since then is life support for a vegetative game

47 : Anonymous2021/04/06 01:34 ID: gtismmt

You should play RE7.

48 : Anonymous2021/04/06 01:38 ID: gtit3kb

Hated it.

49 : Anonymous2021/04/05 19:23 ID: gthj281

While the newer games are fun games (even 5 and 6), for me the classics will always be something special. Back in the day they were unique, with only silent hill as a prominent rival franchise (which is also great). RE4 might made OtS more mainstream, but it also shit on the lore up to that point. The newer REmakes and RE7 are the same. Downgrading the overall story for better gameplay is imo not a great plan. Capcom tries to make the newer games more mainstream but the mainstream in itself is more often than not mindless shooters without a defining identity. RE2make could be considered faithful to the OG but RE3make is comparatively worse than its OG counterpart. RE7s story was weak. RE8s marketing with alcina dimitrescu is embarrassing, but it looks like its going to be at least better than RE7

50 : Anonymous2021/04/06 03:40 ID: gtj6opr

Its because it’s the only good one. I spent a lot to get silent Hill 2 after hearing it was excellent but after playing it for myself: it’s just on par with the weakest RE game. The game is so heavily romanticized for its tone and atmosphere but the gameplay isn’t solid enough to warrant it

51 : Anonymous2021/04/06 04:18 ID: gtjaa4k

If you put silent hill 2 on the same level as the weakest RE games then maybe classic survival horror just arent for you...


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