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Find x.
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For me it's less about the label and more about what location is the main jump/action button. On both the Xbox and ps it's the bottom center, but the switch is the side right. After years of Xbox/ps making the transition to the switch has been challenging to say the least.
ID: h459elzID: h45bx0rThat actually makes a ton of sense to have X be cancel/back.
The Xbox does its own semiotic trick by making the "yes" button green and the "no" button red. When I was teaching my 3 year old how to use a controller, I told him to press the green/yellow/blue button because it was easier for him to grasp.
ID: h45mlksAlso, around the PS3 era, Sony started implementing a specific set of game standards that developers were now required to include in all games, with X being confirm and O being cancel for all menus. Also, for Japanese games, these settings could be easily reversed without much difficulty.
Another was that games must include animated loading screens in order to more clearly warn people that a game has stalled/frozen during loading.
ID: h45ewq9That ended with the PS5
But yeah, I remember having a lot of trouble navigating metal gear solid's menus on the PS1
ID: h45e7ihI kinda figured it was because little kids have smaller hands so they wanted the jump button to be easier to reach on nintendo consoles.
ID: h45klxxPretty sure this died with the PS5
ID: h459d48Tbf the "action button" on PS depends on what country you're in, until this generation at least. In Japan circle was historically Yes/Accept (so positioned consistent with Nintendo) and even some western releases ofJapanese games still let that carry through a little (for example, it's the overworld action button in Persona 5 Strikers and Nier Automata for PS4).
IMO a lot of confusion happened when MS/Xbox chose to go to a different standard (as others have pointed out, what the Dreamcast was already using) and then the console market shrank to just them and two Japanese companies who were otherwise consistent.
ID: h45g9pmMetal Gear Solid 3 had this. I remember going from intro cutscene to main menu many times until I figured it out.
ID: h45gm87dreamcast controllers use the same button layout as xbox
ID: h45g0q6Omg! that’s why jump force always had o to interact. I would loos mymind trying to navigate the menu and this makes so much sense
ID: h4583yeYou can remap buttons on the switch. Took a bit of de-training after I figured that out but never going back.
ID: h45bj6bIf you remap the buttons, will the in-game tips give you correct instructions, or am I going to have to explain to my wife and kids that Toad is lying when he says to press A to jump?
ID: h45awumNow if I can just find a full-size controller that's recognized as a joycon, I'll be a happy man.
ID: h45hf72Depends on the game. If your game has QTE's and it asks you to press "X" within a second, it makes you feel dumb when the only reason you hit the wrong button is you forgot which controller you were using.
And a big fuck you to the devs of PC games that have QTE's like this, but only have xbox button labels for their QTE's that you cannot change in settings if you're not using an xbox controller.
ID: h4530swYeah, I was stuck at the home screen for longer than I'd like to admit when I was trying out smash on the switch.
ID: h45dujbMost games use A for jump, but then you get the ones that use Y instead, it's so bizarre for me.
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Looks like a classic ps1 controller, so bottom.
ID: h45e4i8Yup. The lack of analog sticks and the start and select placement in the diagram clearly are depicting a classic ps1 controller. Therefor, the “X” button is the bottom button.
ID: h45hs9dCame here to say this. The illustration on the board is clearly a ps1 controller; next question teacher!
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Pc players closing out the window.
ID: h45j8yyPC player: confused noises.
ID: h452grpPC players mostly use Xbox or Xbox equivalent controllers. Many still use 360 controllers.
ID: h45h04pi’m more of a nintendo steering wheel guy myself
ID: h45i608Ain't no reason to pay $60+ for a new controller when my 360 one is still going strong.
ID: h45mla8Yep. For dark souls and other similar games have on steam I got a 360 controller.
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Or it's on the right for GameCube. Bottom left for PC.
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X was top on Nintendo controllers back before Sony or Microsoft even had video game consoles of their own.
ID: h457iqnYeah, I grew up with a SNES so that configuration is burned into my brain. Everyone else stole from Nintendo and changed the labels of the buttons, probably to avoid copyright issues.
ID: h459tmoThis is pretty much it. Playstation was initially a Nintendo add-on for the SNES, so they were using the SNES' controller. If course, when they split and had to make their own controller, they basically just modified the existing SNES controller until it was different enough to use. Which is why the PS controller looks so much like a SNES controller.
When XBox came along, I'm sure they just saw X on top, X on bottom, and then thought, "I guess we have to do X on side!"
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Clearly it's between Z and C.
ID: h456c1hPc kid sitting in the back like, “wherever I want, chumps!”
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I do kinda wish Xbox had just made its own button layout instead of copying Dreamcast. No one would be confused these days.
ID: h45mpq1Or if they just copied Nintendo fully. To me PlayStation to Switch isn’t confusing cuz it’s shapes vs letters.
ID: h45s5tlNah, it's hard to type triangle in forums.
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It drives me absolutely bonkers how Xbox and Switch have the same letters on their buttons, but the positions are switched for A & B and X & Y. And the buttons generally mean the same thing; A is "Confirm" and B is "cancel" but the positions are swapped, so every time I switch from one to the other I have this adjustment period where I have to retrain my muscle memory in order to accurately follow the prompts onscreen.
But I only really use my Switch when I'm traveling, so it only even comes up a couple of times a year.
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Great stuff.
What really gets me, and something that I am sure some people have experience with, is switching between the PS4 and the Switch.
I played RDR2 for months, then BOTW for months, went back to RDR2 and I don't know what the fuck I'm doing anymore. Everything is backwards.
Hell, for a while there I couldn't even get into the PS4 menu and thought my controller was broken... I was pushing the Switch "A" button to confirm, which is the PS4 "O" button which is go back.
So I'd press the PS4 button, then O and be like "What the fuck? Why does it keep going back to the 'Press PS button' screen?".
ID: h44sdziGoing from switch to Xbox is even worse. The buttons have the same names but they’re all in different spots
ID: h44w0whThe number of times I've backed out or cancelled things on the Xbox after extended time on the switch is too many
ID: h450s1hYah I play Xbox and switch and it was awful. I decided to customize my button layout for Xbox and match it to switch because I’d been using Nintendo controllers and stuff for way longer. I just needed them to match though.
ID: h456xadTry playing a game on PC with a PS4 controller. All the inputs shown are Xbox inputs. It’s madness. Absolute madness
ID: h44ykib…I came here to relax
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It's right on gamecube.
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Sony is a bottom, confirmed.
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PC player. "That's a funny looking keyboard"
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Nintendo had the four-button diamond configuration in 1991, before either of the other two were even in the market. I’m siding with Nintendo here.
ID: h45lzuhAgreed
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I am using Xbox 360 controler at least 6+ years, but in my head I still use PS layout because I just to play on PSP lot.
But to be honest it doesn really matter. Worst thing was when I tried Jp version of games and it had different button for confirmation (X and O was switched) -
The fun on is when you are playing on pc with a PlayStation or Nintendo controller and you get XBox button prompts on the screen.
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I think that’s because it is the Japanese preferred layout. If you play any PS game in Japan they use Circle ⭕️ instead of X to confirm/main action, but they would specifically localize it for Western market by flipping the two and sometimes they keep the a dedicated controls option to flip that.
I think it’s because Japanese surveys/forms/lists etc all universally use the ⭕️ for affirmative/yes and it’s too visually unintuitive to them otherwise.