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[Hardware Unboxed] The Best Value CPU You Probably Can't Buy, AMD Ryzen 3 5300G Review
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Has the world gone completely mad? I just looked at the prices of 2400g/3400g. 200€ for the first gen Ryzen APU and 300€ for Zen+ version. What the hell? This aren´t even made on 7nm and there should be plenty of these CPUs right now.
ID: hc2qm63ID: hc2xyx5I noticed the same, and am considering it with my 2400g. I can sell it for more than I paid new 3 years ago, that’s crazy.
ID: hc49j1pThe years in where we could get a cheap Ryzen APU and an RX 570 or 580 were the golden years of PC gaming when looking back at it, at least in recent times. Even if high end GPUs were still ridiculously overpriced, I'd be happy if people could at least get into PC gaming through the budget options, but that's no longer the case nowadays, even formerly cheap but capable components are now way too expensive.
ID: hc5g0xpIn 2019, I bought a new Ryzen 1600 for $85 and an Asrock B450m Pro4 board for $70, then got $30 off because it was a bundle deal through Microcenter. And $80 for a used RX 570 4GB.
Today an used Ryzen 1600 is still going for $85, the motherboard is maybe $10 less, and the GPU is easily double the price on eBay.
ID: hc3qi8tI know right? Even though the 2nd hand market is filled with them. I just got a 3200g for 50$. Don't know who is actually buying those new for full price nowadays.
ID: hc2lpp8They were always so expensive, mor eexpensive than 3600. That’s why i had couple my CPU with 10 dolar GPU (it’s single slot but wish it was half height as well)
ID: hc2t9e4I think they were under the MSRP until about 2 years ago. I assume that AMD stopped making them in quantity and then they became more scarce and therefore more expensive.
ID: hc6ryv1Has the world gone completely mad?
yes.. but it's not uncommon for 2-3 gen old CPUs to have inflated 2nd hand markups. been that way for a long time.
ID: hc57i9gthis show how desperate consumers are, due to chaotic market of GPU, people are more willing to buy APU at this point because we cannot just buy some air GPU/scalper price
we are slowly devolving, old staff are getting expensive, while new staff are basically "air"
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You can buy the 5300G from OEM parts sellers. However the cost is the same as a 5600G from retail.
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It's impressive that this APU with Vega 6 outperforms the 3400G with Vega 11.
ID: hc1zxdlmore CU do nothing when they can't be fed fast enough with data.
ID: hc24pgaMore CUs do help with some games (iirc, RE2 really like more CUs). On the other hand- high clock on 5300G increases performance all over the iGPU, not just clock of CUs.
ID: hc213rvWell tbf, the 3400G was 4c/8t and uses the older Zen+ cores.
ID: hc2n2iiBiggest bottleneck is the igpu though. When I run games on my 3400g the igpu is always at 100% usage.
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Seems to be a trait of human nature that people often want what they cannot have...;)
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I just spend 130€ for an i3 10100 to upgrade my parents PC and seriously feel ripped off...
The low end feels really terrible right now, hopefully it can recover.
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So it's 40% faster than the 3400G, is that a huge improvement in just 3 generations?
ID: hc24nu6It's pretty amazing how far performance advanced between Zen+ and Zen 3
ID: hc2xcthYeah I was already happy with Zen+ price/perf and then Zen 3 was a big bonus on top
ID: hc5g3z2And then there's Zen 3+ as well.
I'll be looking forward to upgrading from a 14nm Ryzen 1600 all the way to Zen 3+ on the same B450 board. And I am still using the original Ryzen 1600's stock cooler.
ID: hc2eo463400G used to be the top APU and 5300G is the bottom, so yes, huge improvements.
That's like i3-10100 outperforming i9-9900K.
ID: hc2zo1oexcept the 9900k probably will never be sold at 10100 price. while if 5300G ever go into retail, $150 is the cheapest i could imagine how much AMD would charge, wbjcb would be the same price as 3400G
ID: hc219wcWell just think, a Ryzen 3 is outperforming a Ryzen 5.
ID: hc2h067They're both 4c8t. The R3 vs R5 thing is just labels
ID: hc5olniYes.
For existing software that didn't use new instructions, 4770K to 7700K is far less than 40%
ID: hc2qcijThe bottom die 5300g is that much faster than the top die 3400g
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I have a 5600G ... And I am truly amazed by the level of performance, for the money. Being able to play RDR2 with some good settings, nearly on medium and 30fps, it is a massive blessing while GPU prices are soaring.
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Great cpu for $99.
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hmm why not just get a 11400 ? its better?
ID: hc24sttiGPU is much weaker on it, by ~half.
ID: hc2dirimore than half
ID: hc215wgif you don't have a gpu, then buying intel makes zero sense.
ID: hc2tkofLike ever? Even if it’s just a office pc? And the i5 11400 is the same price as the 5300g and the i5 has more cores and more threads? Even then?
ID: hc2kl1hplease explain what you mean and why im not a fanboy in fact I dislike Intel
ID: hc24w01I feel like these APUs are niche products designed for low-budget users who want to build a system that can run some 3D applications without a GPU but want to add a GPU later. The 11400 would be better once they add a GPU but the Ryzen APU would be better without the GPU so it depends on their plans for the system and budget, and low end GPU availability. And these are also used for NUC style miniature systems that cannot fit a GPU.
ID: hc2dt69High-end are the niche products. Most of the market desires decent low-end products. APUs are useful for fanless systems, homes and classes and office rooms are often too noisy.
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I quite like this little guy. Most likely the production process of Ryzen has been streamlined so much that they simply don't need to sell lower SKU models for retail.
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But it still not available to root a phone or changing a GPU bios
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Here in the States I see used 3400G pretty regularly selling on eBay for $200 while a new 5600G can be had for $260. I'm considering putting my 3400G up for sale so I can upgrade for basically $60 + tax and shipping.