Deathloop will support AMD FSR

1 : Anonymous2021/09/08 17:35 ID: pkf7li
Deathloop will support AMD FSR
2 : Anonymous2021/09/08 21:00 ID: hc3soel

I have a feeling this game will be unoptimized as hell

ID: hc5s81q

if am I not wrong, this game was made using void engine so yeah... expect every possible issues.

ID: hc47duo


ID: hc482uo

Not Bethesda, Arkane Studios. (which is hit and miss anyways)

ID: hc69ti8

Varies wildly from studio to studio under the Zenimax umbrella. Id (Doom) are one of the best studios out there, and probably the only ones who can rival Sony's big hitters in terms of technical excellence, high performance, and launch polish.

Arkane (Dishonored) and MachineGames (Wolfenstein) are both pretty good; Deathloop is an Arkane game.

Bethesda (Fallout, TES) are easily the worst of the bunch. Their games are some of the buggiest to come out of any AAA studio. Yet the fans can't get enough. You watch TES6 be a fucking trainwreck at launch, but still sell 20 million units...

3 : Anonymous2021/09/08 22:48 ID: hc46ca9

Awesome to see.

I wish we’d get a Prey 2 from Arkane, the first one was so freaking good.

ID: hc48z54

I hope too, but since the CEO of Arkane left, my hope are slim.

4 : Anonymous2021/09/08 21:26 ID: hc3vukq

I don't understand. These games doesn't even looks better than the last gen. But system reqs are keep rising. I know old must die to sell new, but at least do it with fancy graphics don't just kill old devices.

ID: hc3wmxq

Sometimes it's a support cutoff and not actual down to the wire "requirements".

Sometimes it's just that was the lowest spec they tested on that they considered a "reasonable experience".

I feel like this comes up every time requirements do.

ID: hc3xwvf

Thats probably true. But still, games are getting less optimised, I think. I tried The Medium for example, and it was horrible. It looks like a typical PS4 game but fps tanks as soon as any split screen scene appear.

ID: hc68bkb

The question is not whether your PC will run it (as long as your HW supports the required APIs: DX11/12, Vulkan...), but at what settings!

ID: hc49fk1

What are you talking about? Recommended settings are perfectly reasonable for a current game and FSR will make it easier to run. What are you complaining about?

ID: hc4d59w

It may be reasonable timewise, I know that this is old hardware but it is not the same about performance-graphics. Doom is a good example for this. Games that looks old, should be run on old hardware without problem.

FSR is good but only if you using high res at the beginning. 1080p + FSR Balanced looks like mud.

ID: hc5vzow

Game publishers will keep doing this to us as long as we keep buying their buggy, unoptimised, unfinished, pre-order sales supported crap.

All we have to do is stop supporting them when they do this and they'll stop

So I guess they'll never stop.

5 : Anonymous2021/09/08 18:23 ID: hc378l5

Considering the beefy PC requirements, FSR is absolutely necessary

ID: hc3durb

You are not kidding. RX 580 recommended to play at 1080p/30FPS with low settings.

ID: hc3f1pq

Better be looking like Reallife than to justify that.

ID: hc3vei1

Holy shit.

ID: hc4run7

Literally my graphics card rn. Very greatful that FSR is gonna be implemented.

ID: hc49rdw

RX 580 is a 6TFLOP card its really not some beast like people make it out to be its always been a 1080P high settings type of card since day one.

Not HATING on it my friend owns one but let's not pretend it's some VEGA64 GPU

ID: hc3wkcq

god damn. rip polaris.

ID: hc49m0v

A 4 year old midrange card doesn't cut it anymore? Who would've thunk it.

ID: hc45t58

That performance hasnt even been high end for 8 years

ID: hc3dsak

yeah my system is minimum spec =(

6 : Anonymous2021/09/08 23:14 ID: hc49k43

FSR is for sure already beaten DLSS in support. Freaking works in all proton games with linux, retroarch and several other games and big AAA games like Far Cry 6 man this has only been out since June this is what happens when you make something open source and EASY to implement is it as good as DLSS 2.0 NO of course not but who cares. It works on ALL cards and its out TODAY. Heck i seen this make Intel HD graphics be capable of playing games.

ID: hc54hhq

If only it didn't make the game look ass in a lot of its implementations, it did look great in Back 4 Blood though so who knows.

ID: hc5azsi

Expecting a lot more improvements for the Far Cry 6 version of AMD FSR. I hope it improves for 1080p a bit more.

ID: hc5c2rq

FSR will always be garbage at 1080p. Upscaling technique will always lose more details as you drop in resolution.

You need something like Nvidia's DLSS or Intel's XeSS to use at 1080p. Both uses machine learning to reconstruct image quality from previous frames.

ID: hc5zlvo

I am kinda excited for XeSS now.

ID: hc6aiog

You shouldn't be. XeSS requires much newer hardware than FSR, and is really two unrelated technologies, one of which is proprietary like DLSS, and both have major compatibility limitations:

XeSS (FP32 shaders, similar to FSR): only supported on Rocket Lake (11th gen CPUs) and newer, Nvidia Pascal (GTX 10 series) and up, AMD's RX 5500 XT, RDNA2, and the Xbox Series X|S. That's it. No 5700 (XT) support, no RX 500 support, no Vega iGPU support, no Nvidia Maxwell (700/900 series) support, no Intel 10th-gen or lower APU support, and significantly, no PS5 support.

XeSS (matrix cores, similar to DLSS): the hardware doesn't exist yet. Will only be supported on Intel's future "Arc" GPUs and their iGPUs in 12th-gen and later; no Nvidia GPUs, AMD GPUs, or 11th-gen and prior iGPUs. Note that Intel have 0% discrete GPU market share right now, so there is little incentive for developers to spend time adding a XeSS path, especially when DLSS has ~18% dGPU market compatibility, and FSR has ~99%.

So yes, another misleading technology presentation. Also note that the shader algorithm isn't open source. Intel only merely promised to open source it "when the time is right".

7 : Anonymous2021/09/08 22:51 ID: hc46stu

30fps on low for a 1060 wow. Unoptimised train wreck tbh.

8 : Anonymous2021/09/08 21:33 ID: hc3wx9y

Hope they have TAAU or something too as an option. I don't mind FSR being available to people but I stand by my personal opinion that it is by far the worst looking upscaling tech.

ID: hc5ghox

but I stand by my personal opinion that it is by far the worst looking upscaling tech.

Bilinear upscale is also an upscaling technology and the de-facto standard for all games currently. Whenever you set a game to a resolution that's not your monitor's, you're using bilinear upscaling to get the content to your monitor's native resolution. Do you think FSR is worse looking than bilinear upscaling?

ID: hc6298l

In cases like RE8 where detail levels seem to get messed up while using FSR... yeah. Though that example is somewhat of an extreme worst case scenario.

ID: hc5o3g7

Image reconstruction is always going to be king, both Intel and Microsoft are doing their own take on that tech without specific hardware requirement, FSR is going to be dead by 2023-2024.

9 : Anonymous2021/09/09 01:27 ID: hc4q5qg

I absolutely disagree with the sentiment here that the requirements are too high, it's a ps5 game, of course it will not run great on midrange hardware from 5 to 6 years ago and i have no idea why anyone thinks it should.

ID: hc4rr7w

Cyberpunk 2077 runs on high 1080p 30 fps on an RX 580 with some extra stuff like contact shadows turned on. Now when I look at what cyberpunk is trying to do and then when I look at what deathloop is trying to do, it does seem like cyberpunk is actually pretty well optimised.

ID: hc5f9sv

Cyberpunk 2077 runs on high 1080p 30 fps on an RX 580 with some extra stuff like contact shadows turned on.

CB 2077 is ultimately a last gen game. Or a in-between gens game.

New gen games will eventually have console level hardware as their minimum.

10 : Anonymous2021/09/08 22:01 ID: hc40hbk

RX 580 recommended to play at 1080p/30FPS with low settings

This shit is the main reason console are popular. Also damn one unoptimized game

ID: hc45usk

It's a 7 year old gpu...

ID: hc49u9i

4 years. If you're talking about the 480 then it's 5 years. I get your point and I agree but still, don't exaggerate.

ID: hc48osb

Well it would be reasonable if the game looked like a next gen game, but it looks average for 2021.

ID: hc581hd

It's a 7 year old gpu

its 4 years and 400 dollars on ebay

ID: hc47dum

it's an old ass card lmao

11 : Anonymous2021/09/08 17:46 ID: hc31s4t

Now it just needs to support reasonable pricing.

The game is way too expensive on PC.

ID: hc3aspk

What do you mean? Isn't it 60 bucks?

ID: hc3fkmw

It's $80 in Canada for just the base game. Deluxe is $110, and I'm certain there will be multiple expansions, making this likely near a $200 game when it's all said and done.

ID: hc3bfc4

Just buy gamepass for PC when it comes out to PC. Play it for a month and then peace out of the membership.

12 : Anonymous2021/09/09 02:12 ID: hc4vnaa

Another game that people won’t play.

14 : Anonymous2021/09/08 21:46 ID: hc3yj3l

Whats TWAA sharpening?? Is TWAA a new AA technique??

15 : Anonymous2021/09/09 01:27 ID: hc4q5ez

The game doesn't seem to have a story? I am a bit confused by the game play description.

16 : Anonymous2021/09/09 02:21 ID: hc4wrwl

It's essentially a first person roguelike involving a time loop. Similar in premise to Returnal, but not nearly as interesting or pretty.

17 : Anonymous2021/09/09 06:31 ID: hc5k0i5

It's not a roguelike though.

18 : Anonymous2021/09/09 11:26 ID: hc63pfc

Read the title and thought it was a new security vulnerability.

19 : Anonymous2021/09/09 11:55 ID: hc66cpa

There are PS3 games that look better than this LOL.

20 : Anonymous2021/09/09 17:05 ID: hc7aemn

Super excited for this one, loved the Dishonored series!

21 : Anonymous2021/09/08 19:16 ID: hc3ey1f

How have I never heard of this game?

Ah PS exclusive

22 : Anonymous2021/09/08 20:05 ID: hc3m75e

The link literally says PC SPECS in massive font at the top of the page.

23 : Anonymous2021/09/08 21:04 ID: hc3t4ev

Sorry was super vague with this. It’s still labeled as a PS exclusive and for the most part advertising is done it’s that plastered on the front.

24 : Anonymous2021/09/08 20:06 ID: hc3maxe

Says right there it launches on PS5 and PC on the same day.

25 : Anonymous2021/09/09 13:30 ID: hc6gklr

This game looks so boring.. yet its being advertised HEAVILY

26 : Anonymous2021/09/09 05:02 ID: hc5d5xs

On Linux you can enable FSR for any game. But of course, native support will probably produce better results.

27 : Anonymous2021/09/09 05:11 ID: hc5dvue

The game has some very high requirements.

1060/580 for 1080p30 at low settings LOL

28 : Anonymous2021/09/09 06:20 ID: hc5j8qj

Rx 580 for 1080p @ 30FPS with low details.

No, that's a no.


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