Who hopes that the patch notes today reads that backing out of pubs will count as a death and not an abandonment penalty

If you don't become a box its only counted as a game played , no death on stats

I’ve been advocating for knocked leavers to count as deaths since the stat page came out (season 2). The amount of discord LFGs that have 3+ k/d requirements when they have inflated their k/D’s by leaving is so rampant. Took awhile for this change, but it’s better late than never.

if i see turd behavior or dumb shit i will 100% leave. I dont want to be penalized for it.

Agreed.

I was trying to do something in settings earlier and some douchenozzle Mirage is just standing there repeatedly punching me. I ask him to stop in chat, but obviously that just makes it even more fun for this child.

I just left the match, and I'm really glad I could do it before now being penalised for it.

I can guarantee it won't change a thing if leaving when you get downed counts as a death. People leave because it's often faster to just leave and requeue. Giving early leavers a 10 minute ban like arenas is the only thing that will have any significant effect.

Lol I've had so many enemies duck behind a closed door and quit. That's not because it's faster.

And because of that we have afk players all the god damn time in arena.

Even better - leaver penalties doesn't prevent you from queueing but it does increase the chance of getting worse teammates the next match. Oh you insta-leave a bunch? Out of the 60 players you get the bottom seeds of players on your team.

Even just a 2-5 minute temp ban (maybe escalating over time and resetting with the new dailies?) would probably help.

A lot of the people who insta-leave say that it's faster to get into a new game (which I argue isn't always the case, I see plenty who quit when we're winning the fight and like 20 feet from a beacon). 2 minutes plus finding a lobby (instant to a minute or two), loading screens, legend select, dropship countdown, etc.

Even a small tweak in the delay before they're back in the game could shift is substantially.

Hell, just make it the same timer as the one as being stuck in a player's pocket in ranked. I think it's 2 or 2.5 minutes and you can abandon freely even if they've gotten your banner.

If someone really needs to go, then a 2 min timer shouldn't matter. If they're just salty that they didn't crush a whole squad on their own, well they can either give it a sec while we get them back on their feet, or they can take a couple of minutes as a break to think about what they've prioritized (their own play time over the team who is now down a member).

And yeah, there's always someone in the comments who is all "Man I only get like 45 minutes a week to play, I ain't waitin' for nuttin'". Which, sorry man, but I don't see why your fun should take priority over the 1-2 other people whose experience is being impacted. It's a team game, and just because the other player(s) are randoms doesn't mean they should have to suffer for it.

If it has a 10 minute penalty it'll just kill a sizeable chunk of the player base. I don't insta-leave games but I will 100% leave a game when I've given a teammate a minute or two to respawn/revive me and they're still looting MY deathbox to take all my shit.

The thought of having to spend 5minutes watching these players run around and play loot simulator or go Rambo 1v3 when they should be respawning is just not really on the cards when I have a couple of hours a day to play. I want to actually be playing the game as do most other people.

Agreed. I'd rather leave and immediately find a new match than sit there and watch my teammates run around the map for 10 minutes only to die to the first squad they see.

Cmon man have faith in your teammates, combined level of 72.

Behavioural score, like Dota2. I would take two lower rank teammates with good behave any day than a diamond that throw the game and keep pinging and screaming at anything you do.

Apex desperately needs that sort of system. Or some kind of reputation system that allows you to Thumbs-Up your teammates if they deserve it, no Thumbs-down because people will abuse it.

That'll weed out the majority of Wraith players really quickly.

Half the time I leave early its because team mates dropped DIRECTLY on top of another team, got knocked in 30 seconds and are in no position to be rescued, or if people completely disregard my advice, steal from me, or speak ill of me.

I'll leave and start a new game. I don't have time for that shit.

Then this wouldn't effect you. A habitual quitter ban would just target people who drop hot and quit after getting knocked repeatedly in the same play session. Not those who quit out of an occasional toxic match.

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