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So im on the quest to kill flash banged PMC's, and I thought to myself, why not KS-23 flashang on factory? So I went looking at the flash bang rounds, they are only unlocked after the quest "Our Own Land" by Prapor. Kill 20 USEC's at lighthouse... wait im USEC, and I need to kill 20 bears... (ie the usec quest is called "Counteraction" and does NOT unlock the flashbang rounds)
After some digging, it turns out ONLY BEAR pmc will ever be able to unlock these from a trader, since only they get the quest "Our Own Land"
Nikita / BSG, please add the flashbang rounds to both sides of the quest since they are "faction" locked
Edit 1: I get the idea of different factions have different quests, and the idea of different factions give different rewards. If the task is pretty much the same, ie kill X of the opposite faction, either match the rewards across the “same” quests, or let each side have a different quest to unlock them
Edit 2: I know you can craft them, but as someone pointed out, it’s a 4 hour craft to craft 7 of them at a cost of nearly 30-50k a round...
Edit 3: maybe they add a USEC quest where you have to kill 5 PMC’s blinded by flash rounds BEFORE you can buy them, (ie craft them, use them, unlock them)
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Finally some advantage to playing BEAR
ID: hwy35bqID: hwy3wruThe fact that raiders in lighthouse aggro on bears 10 miles away and won't on usecs until you are much closer. It's totally broken
ID: hwy4dp8Only if you hate flannel or want to get anywhere near the water treatment plant o lighthouse
ID: hwy5bu4No rogue aggro
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I feel like this is especially bad because the quest before this gives you a ks-23 so it seems like they want you to use the flash bang rounds but you can’t even get them
ID: hwyjdwcYou can craft them
ID: hwyuk06Have you seen the craft? Absolutely ridiculous price, costs about as much as an impact grenade per shot.
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Ok then make the rogues shoot usecs then.
ID: hwxbdm5Found the bear
ID: hwyo4u8Imagine being USEC lmao
ID: hwxbzejUSEC and BEARS are gonna shoot each other anyways
ID: hwxdw5uThat's what Streets of Tarkov will have supposedly. Choose USEC if the Rogues bother you that much. I run lighthouse with BEARs all the time and have no trouble with the Rogues.
ID: hwxf552Neither do I, I have killed hundreds and done every lighthouse quest. But that doesn't mean the game shouldn't have a dichotomy of quest rewards. One faction should get advantages in some ways and the other another way.
ID: hwxoagkThey do they just give a warning shot first
ID: hwxx43zDude they aren't that hard the rogues.
They aggro on USECs just like BEARS.
we did a run with a BEAR in our squad and it was no different to normal rogue runs we do just us USECs.
ID: hwxku6lYour fault you picked the worst faction
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Nah bro don’t you know? Bad quest design = hardcore
ID: hwxkmp0Well then put it at the end of another quest line for USES ¯(ツ)/¯
ID: hwxl6n0Haha I’m joking around, I agree with you they should do that
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They def should but faction specific end games weapons or things would be really cool
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Some people already saying it's intended, but in reality they probably forgot like they always do when they introduce new silencers that don't count towards quests that require kills with silenced guns...
It's really just bad game design when you are forced to add exceptions manually to quests, but again we are talking about a dev team that has to manually alter the stock of all the items you buy from traders instead of giving personal limits until they figure out a way to automate that shit, but watch them justify bad game design with "it's supposed to be hardcore man, if you can't buy an item you gotta figure out another way to get it (RMT cough cough)".
ID: hwy4kmfI mean EVERY SINGLE PLAYER sees the “it’s beta” banner when they start the game, doesn’t mean they actually read it LOL
Things are SuBjEcT tO cHaNgE
I can’t wait for advanced movement / buddy interaction like healing and stuff, I’m talking CORE GAMEPLAY changing stuff
ID: hwy6t9mMeh, honestly I treat it like a finished game. Let's face it, we already got our money's worth by now and I doubt there will be any major changes anytime soon. I feel like they only use the "beta" card to justify their mistakes at this point.
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As a Usec zvezda rounds have been my nighttime craft for a while since I can’t buy them and there is no substitute. I finished that quest in 2 factory runs so I’ve stopped crafting them for now but it’s nice to have the option.
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KS-23 Extended Mag When?
ID: hwy5450Not soon enough KEKW
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Haha suck it usegs
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There shouldn't be a quest like that for flashbang rounds to begin with, wtf
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I'm a BEAR this wipe and I still used the new flashbangs to get this quest done. Those things are awesome. Even if they blow up outside of the enemies FOV the explosion still dazes them like a headshot and counts toward the quest.
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You can craft them
ID: hwxbo4qfor IIRC 20-30k A ROUND, 7 at a time, plus the craft time. Its a laughably bad craft, for one thats not a FiR quest item.
ID: hwy2fpiAdd to this the fact that its Workbench lvl 3 from the lvl 2 it was last wipe iirc.
ID: hwxyq3bBasically the same craft as other ammo
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Nah please make it so BEARs can buy MORE flash bang rounds and keep the quest as it it. Let them have an easy time on Lighthouse but and let BEARs be their nightmare on factory
ID: hwy51maHere you go
ID: hwyemvsI mean if you've killed a rogue recently as a usec you still have to play lighthouse like a bear would. It's an advantage for your first lighthouse raid of the day that's it lol
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Can you actually use the kid-23 for those flash kills? I thought it had to be flash bangs only
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Or.. You know... Just remove the KS from the game...
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What's the reward for the usec task then?
ID: hwys4vd1 intel so 350k... I’d love to unlock the flash rounds with a limit of 2 per reset instead lol
ID: hwysgiyWow that's shitty by comparison. Not surprising tho, discrepancy is tarkov's bread and butter. Just look at windows or barbed wire in game lmao
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flashbacks are cooler this wipe anyways. they have a different effect similar to golden star contusion. I did use star rounds for that task last wipe tho
ID: hwxd456What are flash backs
ID: hwxik3euse your brain thats a pretty clear typo
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The game is still an MMORPG - those types of games have factions with different rewards - pretty sure this is on purpose
ID: hwxyk0rOk, so maybe a different quest to still unlock them?
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You can craft them in your hideout
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FYI, the flashbang rounds can be crafted in workshop.
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Nope
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ha get good usec scrub /s
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you can craft them in hideout.
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There weren't KS-23 or star rounds in the game a couple wipes earlier. We had to do it the old fashioned way, so you can do it, too!
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I’ve gotten kappa 3 times now, (using both ways) I just wanted to run a few flash rounds in my KS
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so, so, so
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As a Lighthouse main bear, I approve of the quests in the current condition and request that Nikita make no changes. I very much like my corneas and would prefer to keep them this wipe
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Just use the new flash bangs in normal maps during engagements .. They are really good and the fuse is really short.
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Cry some more
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Damn you so butthurt you got to stalk my profile thanks for the views anyway
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Theres a small child that needs bullied somewhere else
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Awwww Did the rogues hurt your feelings?
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Rogues? I'm literally a bear
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NGL been finding a lot of 20g rounds all of them too but the ksm is busted so no point in running it
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20g are for the TOZ, 12g are “normal” shotguns, KS-23 iirc is a 6g shotgun
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Is there some advantage to playing usec?