Play The Winter Express in the Raiders Collection Event, Starting December 7th

1 : Anonymous2021/12/02 22:03 ID: r7ijzj

Original post can be seen on the EA website here.

The Discussion & Support Megathread can be found here.


From December 7th to the 21st, Winter Express returns, event-limited cosmetics, and the debut of Wattson's heirloom!

Apex Legends: Raiders Collection Event Trailer

Starting December 7th and available until December 21st, the Apex Legends Raiders Collection Event will give players the opportunity to unlock event-limited Legendary cosmetics for Valkyrie, Loba, Revenant, Bloodhound, Pathfinder, Wattson and Wraith that are designed to bring out the pirate in every player. But that’s not all we’re bringing for the Holidays, how about the return of one of our favorite limited-time modes, Winter Express!


That’s right: Winter Express returns! This beloved game mode offers three squads the opportunity to board and capture the World’s Edge train. For the first time, Legends will be able to pick their loadout before boarding the train; play around and find the best loadout for you! 


Each Legendary skin has a complementary weapon, either in the collection or the prize track. You can earn 1,600 points per day and challenges refresh daily. There are also stretch challenges that reward four unique badges if you complete them during the event. 

All of these challenges also stack with your Battle Pass, so you can complete several at once. And of course, the Raiders Collection Event also introduces a brand new set of 24 themed, limited-time cosmetics.


Once you unlock all 24 collectibles, you’ll receive Wattson’s electric Heirloom, the “Energy Reader”! 



Wattson: Fixed the issue with fences “sticking” when trying to place a node near a fence. Wattson: Fixed bug for cases where Wattson’s Fence nodes ignored player collision.  Wattson: Fixed bug with the blueprint line not showing up to signify where the fence will be created. Wattson: Fixed issue where Caustic’s Ultimate isn’t zapped by the Interception Pylon. Wattson: Fixed bug where Arc Stars could stick to and damage the Interception Pylon Ash: Based on feedback we’ve increased the audio presence of Ash’s Ultimate. Ash will no longer “bleed” when shot and now displays sparks [like Pathfinder and Revenant]. Ash: fixed cases where a grid pattern would show on some rare and common skins. Valkyrie / Revenant: Fixed a bug where using a Skydive with Death Totem at a specific time caused Valkyrie’s skydive to enter a bugged state. Valkyrie: Fix for Birthright Skin where Valk’s jetpack control clips into her hands in first person. 


Arenas: Fixed bug where Seer could continuously charge his tactical after it’s reached zero uses. Arenas: Reduced reconnect times since the matches are shorter than a Battle Royale match. Arenas: Fix for missing ammo UI on the common, rare, or epic, CAR. Arenas: Fix for missing horizontal black bars while spectating.   Arenas: Fix for cases where the Death Tab is missing from the shop window.


Fixed issue with a spot on Storm Point where players could camp in unintended areas near Command Center. We also addressed multiple minor bugs around the map ranging from misplaced kill triggers and holes in geo. Bocek Compound Fracture Legendary skin bug: Fixed an issue where players would still see iron sights when aiming even if another sight is equipped. R-301 Dynastic Cycle Legendary skin bug: Fixed an issue with the gun using a mix of two different skins. Fixed bug for cases where the Loba Edition displays “No Price Found” when viewed in the store tab. Based on feedback we’ve reduced the SFX on reactive skins for the Volt. Fixed bug where players were unable to scroll downwards when looting a death box or black market. Fixed bug that was preventing players from getting Rampart’s Heirloom even after buying all 24 event packs. Fixed bug where players could skydive faster after spamming Ping. Fixed issue with players seeing the 888 Elite Mode Badge constantly unlocking.  Fixed bug where dive trails were not rewarded properly.  BALANCE CHANGES


Decreased Focus of Attention detonation delay from 1.6s to 1.4s

Dev Note

Seer was dialed back to a healthier spot with the balance hotfix soon after his release. However, after four months of evaluating his use in the live game, the detonation delay seems a little too sluggish. We want to improve its feel while continuing to evaluate the reveal meta as a whole.

Arc Star


Base stick damage lowered from 30 -> 10 Shield Damage Multiplier increased from x3 -> x4 (stick on shielded enemy will now max out at 40 instead of 90) Sticking an enemy now applies a slow debuff (reverting Legacy update change)


Slow duration is now driven by distance to the center of Arc Star detonation

Dev Note

Arc stars excel in a lot of areas. They have high damage potential coupled with a punishing slow, and can be thrown more accurately than other ordnance types. Removing the stick slow created some degenerate play patterns and often made it hard to tell when you got stuck in the heat of battle. We’re bringing that back with a tradeoff of lower damage potential and a proximity based slow falloff in non-stick cases. These changes make stick scenarios more consistent across shield types and make arc stars less effective at area denial.

Splatter Rounds

Removed increased magazine capacity

Dev Note

Big Maude has been an awesome drop location and a reliable source of early power for teams that win the hotdrop. However, the paintball weapons are proving to be a little too strong so we’re going to remove the increased mag size but keep the handling improvements.


Shotgun ammo, sniper ammo, and arrow crafting output reduced to a single stack

Private Match

Observer Mode - UI and Scoring Improvements for in-game stats menu. Observer Mode - Reduced opacity on Loba’s Back Market for map & mini-map. Observer Mode - Added toggle option to show next ring location. Added [Team] Eliminated text in kill feed for Private Match Anonymous mode. Admins now have the ability to end matches in either Observer or Player positions. Fixed issue for real time API delay after running consecutive games. New real time API events including: Shots fired Kill awarded Line by line formatting Unique player IDs

Quality of Life

New Custom Reticle Color System

Custom Reticles are here! The new UI can be opened under Gameplay Settings by selecting the Customize option under Reticle.

Once in the new Custom Reticle UI you’ll be able to:

Select a color from some of our recommended favorites Use the color and brightness sliders to find that perfect color Manually enter an RGB color Toggle between 4 different hand picked environments to preview your reticle

Dev Note

You’ll be able to pick from a lot of colors in the new system, but darker colors won’t be selectable because of how some of our reticles react to the world (additive effect) which would make them invisible. If a manually entered RGB value is in that range, we will do our best to keep that hue but will bring that value closer to a safe color.

2 : Anonymous2021/12/07 00:33 ID: hnj45wu

Just a heads up: Respawn announced that there is a bug in this update that prevents Controller players both on PC and Console from being able to ping items in deathboxes or in Loba's ultimate. There is a fix, but it won't be live until the 15th.

See the tweet here

3 : Anonymous2021/12/02 22:56 ID: hmzt84f

Only 2 weeks for the LTM? Why are they decreasing every ltm this year? Halloween ltm was a week and now this one ain't a month like previous years. I'm actually sad

ID: hmztojc

Yeah it's kinda lame tbh

ID: hn1q84o

I’m bummed as I was planning to play Winter Express on Christmas :/ I’m a uni student so I don’t have much time to play most days. I’m free on Christmas so it would’ve been perfect timing

4 : Anonymous2021/12/02 22:16 ID: hmzn9zl

Bit sad that the fixes/changes don't make the marker for Ash's ult easier to see, it's a pain trying to use it precisely 🙁

ID: hmzxj7c

Agreed, I can't see it for shit. I just click and hope for the best.

ID: hn0l5uq

In heated situations I love when I accidentally go like 2 feet lmfao

ID: hn0g7h2

yes, I actually wanted more visual rather than audio clue for her portal

ID: hn20hgk

Also no mention of how bugged Mirage’s decoys are? It’s getting so out of hand. It’s close to 50/50 if a decoy will work properly and not die on a blade of grass or get stuck in midair when activating control of the decoy

5 : Anonymous2021/12/03 01:15 ID: hn0c0xm

Winter Express not playable the whole of Dec? I'm sure it was last year. Damn what a month that was - so much fun. Surely they could keep it in for free lol? Or at least up to christmas, loved winding down at the end of Christmas day, few beers deep and a full belly - laughing our tits off over winter express shenanigans.

Also - whilst being able to customise your own loadout is cool - it was kind of a trade off previously where you could get the gun loadout you wanted but your hand was forced in to what character you wanted to play, conversely, if you wanted a particular character to play then your hand was forced regarding the gun you had to use - was a lot of the charm in it in my opinion.

I think this will just turn in to fuse + devotions all around. Shame really, hope I am wrong.

ID: hn2h7zp

Yup, forcing everyone to run with unfamiliar loadouts or Legends was half the fun. This is just gonna get samey now. 😐

ID: hn1j4e7

two ways they could do it, preset loadouts that you can pick one from so it's like last year, just not tied to a legend or full arenas mode where idk if there's gonna be econ.

first way solves having 3 turbo devos on one squad but yeah everyone will just play the best legends so it's a caustic fest

second way, either there's econ and it actually takes the fun out of the mode or there's no econ and it's a turbo devo + caustic fest

either way the original preset loadouts tied to legends is the best for this mode there was literally no need to change it.

6 : Anonymous2021/12/02 22:55 ID: hmzt0cg

Wait, the winter express will not last until christmas? Thats kinda sad news tbh

ID: hmzzamx

last year it was practically the entire month and it was fucking beautiful

ID: hmztguq

At least the mode is actually playable for the whole event, unlike the Halloween event.

ID: hn0h1ej

this is a huge oversight imagine not being able to play a holiday event during the HOLIDAYS

they have to expand this, surely...

it will end up being "oh look boxing day / new years sales play until Dec 31 give us money thx"

ID: hn0m1uw

Yeah, I understand the 2 week collection event but please let Christmas Train go for another 2.

ID: hn3dttq

Wait, the winter express will not last until christmas?

More importantly since it will end Dec 21, it won't even take place in (northern) winter.

7 : Anonymous2021/12/02 22:19 ID: hmzntti

Give a payrise to the person/team who has now brought in customizable Reticles.

Thank you.

8 : Anonymous2021/12/02 23:13 ID: hmzvmvv

So what are the damage numbers for a non-stuck arc star?

And 120 total stuck dmg (30 + 90) -> 50 total (10 + 40) and slow? Yeesh! Seems like a lot of steps to avoid just making a clear indicator pop up when you get stuck… “you’ve been stuck” or a special arc star detonation indicator on your screen would have done the trick of making it clear in the heat of battle…

ID: hn0lnk6

Stuck damage used to be 30*3 + 70 = 160 damage.

My interpretation that its going to 10*4 + 70 = 110 damage.

A nerf for sure but I mean 110 damage burst + slow is still an insane opener in any fight

9 : Anonymous2021/12/02 23:55 ID: hn01fed


ID: hn3mbzx

Fun pirate fact: Edward Teach aka Blackbeard used to put lit fuses into his beard and would board enemy ships where the cannons caused the most fiery damage. He would emerge from the flames and the smoke, beard smoking, to terrify his enemies as he took over the ship.

Would have been a PERFECT look for Caustic, especially with his one finisher where he tosses the grenade down.

Bonus fun fact: he used to close all the hatches on his ship with himself and the crew all inside, and he would then light brimstone in the enclosed area. Brimstone emits a horribly noxious gas that causes tears, nausea, and difficulty breathing. He would do this to try and prove he was the toughest on board the ship and a good reason why he was captain. Almost every time, he was the last person that could withstand the lit brimstone, laughing as his crew members all ran to the deck to suck in fresh air.

…Caustic is Blackbeard confirmed…?

ID: hn5k989

Wait that’s really cool. Didn’t even think about that finisher or know about that gas story

10 : Anonymous2021/12/02 22:32 ID: hmzpn72

Revenant skins are in there own fucking galaxy jeeeeesus

ID: hn1r2u9

they ain't miss on a Rev skin yet, I don't even play him but buy all his skins smh

11 : Anonymous2021/12/03 00:45 ID: hn081mr

"For the first time, Legends will be able to pick their loadout before
boarding the train; play around and find the best loadout for you! "

the designers have fundamentally misunderstood what was good about winter express

ID: hn1agx0

This is garbage. Everyone is just going to play Wraith or Caustic or whatever now. Boooo.

ID: hn1o5ix

not just same legends but also same guns for everyone. turbo devotion caustic every game. old system limited the gun types per team so for ex, only one turbo devo was allowed per team

ID: hn294gs

I don’t even understand what they mean by this. Are they saying you pick your character and load out separately?

ID: hn2bh4o

Yes, looks like that's what they mean.

Maybe they'll use some of the Arenas UI somehow.

ID: hn4sl1g

My hype just went from 11 to -7

12 : Anonymous2021/12/03 11:34 ID: hn21byh

So are just ignoring the fact that they made a purchasable dive emote for ash instead of having it in battle pass?

Man respawn is really in low effort max profit mode this season.

13 : Anonymous2021/12/03 15:27 ID: hn2ris7

Imma be honest; having a shit battlepass this season and literally 2 good skins in it and keeping all the actual island themed shit behind $180 is pretty fucking shitty. I know it's been like this for a while but after this battlepass it's just insulting, oh well

14 : Anonymous2021/12/02 23:00 ID: hmztq9y

Okay but can we talk about how the ziplines in tower at barometer DON’T WORK!!?? How many times have I been fucked by getting to the top only to get knocked back down because you have to jump a VERY specific way to actually land up top? It’s ridiculous and needs to be fixed

ID: hn01k4h

There’s also a pole below the zip from north pad to checkpoint that will knock you off sometimes.

ID: hn0e5sl

The zip lines on the map have issues in general not just at the tower. The antenna one does it as well as the zip line at the building up the hill on the right next to cascades

15 : Anonymous2021/12/02 23:03 ID: hmzu68z

Another collection event another revenant skin

16 : Anonymous2021/12/02 22:07 ID: hmzlv7t

Skins are awesome

17 : Anonymous2021/12/03 03:02 ID: hn0qny9

Those don’t look like Christmas skins

ID: hn3h6gz

Im actually pleased. I may be in the minority here but you can only have so many santa/reindee

/gingerbread skins every holiday season before it gets stale. I much prefer the pirate theme

18 : Anonymous2021/12/02 22:41 ID: hmzr19z

While their skins are always cool, can legends other than Pathfinder, Wraith and Revenant get some love?

Seriously, those three legends are are the front of EVERY event. They always get a top tier skin. They're always the focus in the trailer.

People are going to argue that its because they have the highest play rates, which allows Respawn to make more money during events, which is true, but this also inflates that issue by encouraging players (new and old) to play only those characters because they get the most attention via visual media and cosmetics.

ID: hmztwiq

Revenant’s pick rate isn’t even as high as it used to be since he’s been nerfed. But his design just makes it easy to make dope skins so I can see why they love to keep making them for him. But I agree I’d like to see other legends get more skins.

ID: hn1sfxw

Revenant has the second lowest pick rate, its just because his design make for great skins, evil murder robot

19 : Anonymous2021/12/03 14:03 ID: hn2g6qu

Wattson heirloom rework please. Entire fucking community is calling it trash for the love of god.

20 : Anonymous2021/12/02 22:14 ID: hmzmy7e

Wish we were getting next gen console update in this patch.

ID: hmztvpp

I know data miners found code that referenced the new hardware, so hopefully it's coming soon. I got my expectations way too high thinking it would come for this one.

ID: hmzwjrg

It’s weird they haven’t provided updates considering they said it would release this year..

If it has been pushed back the least they could do is update us and not string us along. It’s so tone deaf it’s embarrassing

ID: hn031k0

Wouldn't surprise me if they pushed it back to 2022 and intend to release it alongside the cross-progression system they're working on. So they can say "here it is for the new consoles! And you can take your progress with you across any platform". Would be a good marketing strategy, no?

21 : Anonymous2021/12/04 06:11 ID: hn608sy

DOC drone still doesn’t heal. Why were the patch notes so short. Stop cutting your development team. Fix the goddamn game.


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