Victura on Twitter: “We understand the events recreated in Six Days in Fallujah are inseparable from politics.”

1 : Anonymous2021/03/08 15:04 ID: m0hjqe
Victura on Twitter: "We understand the events recreated in Six Days in Fallujah are inseparable from politics."
2 : Anonymous2021/03/08 15:12 ID: gq7tqkl

This game's continued coverage is surprising given the fact that we haven't even seen what the gameplay looks like yet.

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Almost like someone has a vested interest in getting this thinly veiled propaganda piece as much attention as possible.

I can't imagine who could possibly benefit from using a video game to promote jingoistic ideals of the American military.

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government cover ups were in my job description

3 : Anonymous2021/03/08 15:21 ID: gq7uxug

Where's that tweet thread detailing (and sourcing) how the government is involved in the making of the game?

Oh here it is.

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You gotta love how they still capitalize "Marines and Soldiers" in this press release as the DoD requires in its style guide. They're probably smart enough to not make it an intensely obvious slab of hoorah propaganda, but it'll still be basically "look at how sad shooting these civilians made our soldiers" instead of critically examining the Iraq War in any way.

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And people still giving them the benefit of the doubt, thinking the game might feature some sort of political commentary that isn't blatant jingoism and propaganda

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Am I misunderstanding something or is he talking about stuff from 2005? We're in 2021 now.

4 : Anonymous2021/03/08 15:12 ID: gq7tsdl

This is just damage control.

"People will talk about White Phosphorous but you won't use it".

Which means that despite what they're saying, they've not designed the game with the White Phosphorous controversy in mind. Which means they've made it blind to the political issues at hand.

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Not to mention the 100k depleted uranium rounds unloaded into the city. Children are being born with birth defects, and instances of cancer have risen substantially since the battle.

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I guess they forgot Spec Ops: The Line exists.

5 : Anonymous2021/03/08 15:15 ID: gq7u3ul

I thought they literally just said it wasn’t meant to be a political game? Now it’s suddenly political and complex? Ok sure

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It's impossible for this game not to be political, as they finally admit here.
The whole thing has been dumb and I doubt they'll pull off saying something real about war here, few games are Spec Ops: The Line... but they could surprise me.

Developers/publisher, please stop saying your game has nothing to do with politics when the case is clear to a five year old... it makes you come off as spineless morons.

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If I'm being honest, at this point I don't think they will be able to handle the stories correctly. I'd love to have a complex story about modern warfare and its consequences but I can't trust a developer that went from "Our game based on the Iraq war is not political" to "We understand our game is inseperable from politics"

And we didn't even mention the fact the US government is involved in this. It looks like this is going to be yet another CoD type of approach to war

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6 : Anonymous2021/03/08 15:50 ID: gq7yvos

"Complex", they say. There is nothing complex about it. The invasion of iraq was unambiguously foolish and evil.

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War crimes are so political, a ton of nuance involved dude!

7 : Anonymous2021/03/08 17:19 ID: gq8bef7

Funny how they still capitalize “Soldiers” even in this tweet.

Instead of all this talk, they need to zip it and show gameplay footage as to how these mechanics will play out.

They’re promising an authentic tactical shooter experience, so that needs to be showcased as soon as possible.

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They also separate Marines and Soldiers because that's what the DoD wants, to make each branch of the army feel Special

8 : Anonymous2021/03/08 15:45 ID: gq7y7u5

Why did they even revive this project? It’s a game nobody asked for based on an event that nobody asked for. I am already tired of seeing the title in headlines again. This should have stayed dead - no one was missing it. It feels like they started development back up just to garner headlines.

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It’s a game nobody asked for based on an event that nobody asked for.

Don't lie, many people back then were actually looking forward to the game mostly from intrigue that it was gona be a gritty realistic 3rd person tactical shooter and the setting was based on an active war at the time.

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They revived it because the IP was inexpensive, and it came with free advertising through shock factor.

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I was interested because the game was being marketed as survival horror in a very original environment. Nowadays? hell if I know. I'm mostly curious to as what survived.

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IDK it looks fun.

9 : Anonymous2021/03/08 18:58 ID: gq8pprj

It would be refreshing to see more companies take a stance on something instead of trying to navigate the neutral middle-ground.

10 : Anonymous2021/03/08 18:39 ID: gq8mxku

Honestly they should just ignore all the hate. The people getting mad weren't going to buy it anyways so trying to be nice to them is just silly.

11 : Anonymous2021/03/08 15:35 ID: gq7wrs1

The statement makes me feel a little bit better about this game which is what they're going for, I guess, but I still don't understand what Tamte was going on about a few weeks ago.

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This statement feels so programmed for PR that it is almost cynical in tone.

Note how the message goes from "it's inseparable fron politics... and we interviewed Iraqis too" to "How these service members saved the day"

They are now using the Iraqis as a sort of plot device/scapegoat to highlight the military. It's not an interactive documentary, it's interactive propaganda.

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That he wasn't doing TLOU 2 or Bioshock Infinite, but a shooting game, not a pamphlet with a game attached.

There is an invisible line between the things inside a game having politics and the whole story about being politics. You can't in serious tone tell me Super Mario Bros. 2 was about overthrowing tyrannical monarchies.

12 : Anonymous2021/03/08 17:39 ID: gq8ebf6

I don't even know why they even decided to make this game. Like they must've known the reaction it would get. If they wanted to make a game about a real event in the past 20 years they could've at least done Afghanistan or something.

13 : Anonymous2021/03/08 18:46 ID: gq8o0wg

Just make the game you want to do. The most vocal critics about the lack of "good politics" in your games aren't the ones that are going to buy it anyway. You can't please everyone and certainly not the "resetera sphere" no matter how low you bow down to that crowd. You're just empowering them in their quest for bullying and harassment.

14 : Anonymous2021/03/08 16:41 ID: gq85zuo

Can the angsty Europeans just shut up about this game? It's clearly not catered to you , lmao. what gets me is these people don't say shit when cod and battlefield come out, but God forbid an INDIE dev make a game about this.

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Painting anybody critical of this game as "angsty europeans" lmao. Are you serious?

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Hey, American here, this is some shady government-funded whitewashing of one of the least popular events in the deeply atrocious war we created in the Middle East.

If you're pro-Iraq/Afghanistan war, we have nothing more to discuss.

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Were you not here for the discussions about how COD literally re wrote history and said Russia committed a war crime instead of the US?

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Europeans? LOL, I doubt Europeans are the fat of the outrage here.

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People criticize the politics of COD all the time, but as far as I'm aware COD is usually smart enough to not have you play as the people involved in a real, recent war crime.

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