Could the game please tell new players to not to kill scavs as a scav player

1 : Anonymous2022/02/05 14:45 ID: sl8jrs

such a basic thing, new players dont know about the scav rep. i am getting blasted by scav players as a scav like nothing, of course they dont know it since the game doesnt tell them, just add some few simple rules near a scav selection screen of what you are supossed to do, easy

2 : Anonymous2022/02/05 14:47 ID: hvpb1ge

Or maybe give Fence a short introduction quest to his rep system give him some dialogue and make the quest objective somehow increasing his rep either through extracts or killing a hostile player scav

ID: hvq1gfz

i’ll settle for fence messaging you first time you kill a scav and maybe even periodically as you keep doing it until the point where scavs auto aggro on you

ID: hvql58y

Yeah earlier Scav aggro is the answer here

ID: hvr3jh8

Your first scav kill run on a new account should be no rep lost with a message by the fence warning you of what will happen if you continue.

ID: hvq8pgp

I'd be down for everything except for the having to kill a hostile SCAV. That'd basically be like low-tier boss hunting, as you won't always run into player SCAVs in a raid, much less hostile ones that you can actually get the chance to kill (most hostiles like to get you with your back turned).

ID: hvpchwp

sure, good idea

ID: hvq89d4

This would be way better

ID: hvq9lv1

This is the way

3 : Anonymous2022/02/05 17:48 ID: hvq1in1

What’s frustrating is when they start the fight, miss every shot and I kill them, I’m the one who’s punished for it.

ID: hvqq8dz

Iv lost a lot of karma from this to the point I thought it was like comical. Like no way I could talk about it because people would think I’m lying.

ID: hvqw82p

I'll just let them kill me or shoot untill they hit me.

ID: hvqquvx

hate to break it to you but most of the time its on purpose and they are trying to make you lose karma

ID: hvqsaof

That’s possible but more likely it’s people trying to bait me into shooting them first so they can kill me and gain some karma.

I’m going off the assumption that when their body is full of loot, it’s less likely they were trying to bait getting killed or shot.

4 : Anonymous2022/02/05 18:56 ID: hvq9fao

When you choose your scav, there's literally text that tells you "Begin a raid as a Scav, a local Bandit with a random set of gear. Tarkov is your home, you make the rules!"

This is both incorrect, and also the perfect place to tell people their scav karma. It would literally take a developer 10 seconds to change this text. Maybe a whole day to make it dynamic and tell you what your Scav karma is.

Why is this so bad?

ID: hvqcodu

exactly

5 : Anonymous2022/02/05 18:57 ID: hvq9ivi

this game tends to not give a fuck about new players

6 : Anonymous2022/02/05 15:59 ID: hvpkxip

The game doesn't even tell you where half the quests are so you have to go elsewhere to look them up. They don't care, you make your own decisions and live with it for 3 to 5 months

ID: hvqdh0h

The game doesn't even tell you where half the quests are

Dude the game doesn't even tell you were the extracts are. Far more basic. I was so confused why that's not a thing in game when i first started playing.

ID: hvqexrx

If they gave players actually useful in-game map they wouldn't need to study the wiki for first couple raids on every map. Like prapor for example giving you a poorly drawn map of shoreline with the most basic land marks BUT also showing where at least the always open extracts are.

ID: hvprwzi

They want you to have the option to try to figure out the quests on your own

ID: hvpx2f4

Speaking of i stumbled randomly across a quest item in resort on shoreline, unlocked my room to hit it and boom there it was, 5 wipes and I've never stumbled across a quest item without outside information.

ID: hvpxprv

Meanwhile quest instructions on wiki: go to exactly this place, turn 30 degrees left and walk forward. When you reach corner you need to stand on your head and lean forward so you go into the wall. Only that way you are able to get interaction on this quest item.

ID: hvq1ced

They’re so poorly made though. Like most of the “find the documents” are hidden in some random ass spot you can barely see, like the woods shack or the customs train car.

7 : Anonymous2022/02/05 16:20 ID: hvpnxod

Maybe they're just killing you because they want to

8 : Anonymous2022/02/05 14:58 ID: hvpcdrh

i think voip should be on by default. last night i saw a player scav crab walking up to building 3 on lighthouse, im voiping to him as i walk up and he doesnt react. as soon as i get like 2 feet away from him i see his character flick like crazy and panic shoot me. the poor fucker had moonshine on him too i felt so bad

ID: hvpyqo2

Not related to main post, but what is crab walking? I've seen it mentioned a few times now and have no idea what it is referring to.

ID: hvpywn1

crouch walking everywhere on the slowest setting.

ID: hvpz4g2

Crouch walking.

ID: hvq2mo0

Maybe not on by default but it should at least ask you right after creating a username if you want VOIP to be enabled or not. Maybe have a little brief explanation of the existence of a karma system and the pros and cons of VOIP.

If brought up with just an 'Enable/Disable' then a lot of players would brush it off and disable it but if you had a little explanation of why VOIP might matter in this game like the difficulty in finding locations and how karma affects you then that might convince someone to at least try it out, if not at that moment then later when they start having problems.

edit: They could also make the in-game voicelines easier to access and use though a simple solution would be to have an indicator of if a player can or can't hear you. Not entirely sure how without it being immersion breaking though.

ID: hvq63qo

Whats wrong with default? Most games have voice chat on by default and it doesnt create any issues for them

ID: hvpd4x7

yeah the fact that it is not on default is such a weird decision i get that they wanted to be careful with such an addition as they are with everything but it is important feature and turned out to be great addition

ID: hvpzww0

Community had a panic attack before voip was released. They thought it would ruin the game with people running around blasting music. So Nikita, kept it off by default so the community is happy. It's in the thoughts now at bsg to have it on at all times. Just filling you into why it's off if you didn't know.

9 : Anonymous2022/02/05 18:52 ID: hvq8x68

Be careful you'll bring out the "git gud" toxic side of the community

10 : Anonymous2022/02/05 15:47 ID: hvpj6rg

That's a tough one.. I'm happy last wipe I learned the hard way and KoS then I saw the penalty. This wipe I only fired when I knew it was a pmc - I died a few times being hesitant but that's the scav life. Kind of want every new player to experience that but I know some players find that lack of information frustrating for sure.

11 : Anonymous2022/02/05 18:28 ID: hvq645l

Shit I’m a new player also. The game doesn’t teach you shit about what a scav vs a PMC is really supposed to look like. The shit guns you start off with you cant identify your targets very well from a distance. Then there’s the whole trying to identify your targets in dark areas. It’s hard being a scav.

Then there’s me yesterday. Spawn into Woods as a PMC with a random L11 guy I grouped up with. Just start trying to talk about our plan on VOIP and he shoots me in the face.

Added him after so I could vent and maybe talk some shit. “Oh I thought you were a scav”. Like what? Motherfucker I joined your group before match start and you saw my kit. Fucking dick.

ID: hvqdaro

Dont group with random people in game

ID: hvqdqeh

As a new player, how do you go about finding people to play with? I don't think any of my friends play Tarkov so that's out.

Edit: Shout out to all the homies helping out

12 : Anonymous2022/02/05 21:49 ID: hvqtj7r

The best part of Tarkov is how it doesn't hold your hand. Never change. Tarkov. Never change.

13 : Anonymous2022/02/05 16:17 ID: hvpnlb0

It makes me feel better to know their rep is getting F’d when they do kill me lol.

ID: hvpywnc

But if they don't know what rep is what's the point lol

ID: hvpyyxu

There will come a day hahaha.

14 : Anonymous2022/02/05 18:50 ID: hvq8lzt

Yeah I’m ngl despite the whole hardcore shooter thing, this game could use a few more tips like this, not even as tooltips maybe just on every loading screen possible

15 : Anonymous2022/02/05 22:18 ID: hvqxe1p

Fuck Santa. Dude got me -3 lol. I've accepted I'm never coming back. Best advice I could give tho would be to not scav customs. That's where the scav on scav violence is worst. By the time people start scavving other levels they've figured it out

16 : Anonymous2022/02/05 14:54 ID: hvpbu9d

Players scavs are 100% allowed to kill other player scavs

Your risk free loot run shouldn't just be a shopping simulator

ID: hvpzl72

Of course they are but there's a lot of new players who don't even know about the karma system existing

I started late last wipe and got to like -1 karma before I even realised the system existed.

ID: hvpckht

As much as I love the scav karma system, this is a hard truth that I think a lot of people complaining about seem to miss. If anything, I think there should be some kind of incentive to have negative karma instead of simply being punished for the sake of diversifying raids a bit. Like there’s really no reason not to be on best behavior

ID: hvq13kk

Yeah, I don’t even use my gun on Scav anymore. Odds that I take down a player are low anyway at this point, more likely I just mistake a scav and get negative karma.

ID: hvpiqkc

There is no reason to be on your best behavior because it would be what would realistically happen. I doubt lore wise a scav would survive much in tarkov if he started killing his peers in a place with heavy armed military forces that shoot on sight. There should be some psycho that doesn't care about the rules or someone that sees an opportunity for greed but it should definitely be a rare occasion imho.

17 : Anonymous2022/02/05 17:17 ID: hvpwlk0

There is a reason why AI scavs shout before they shoot, lore wise scavs make sense. Inb4 everyone tries to say that this is intended scav behaviour.

18 : Anonymous2022/02/05 17:24 ID: hvpxq2h

I think some people don't care I still kill other scavs since I rarely play them anyway and I want that juicy lighthouse loot.

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7 months ago

a scavenger does what it wants and if he wants your loot too bad

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