Petition to roll back all balancing around everything bitcoin and “see how it goes”

1 : Anonymous2021/03/21 16:57 ID: ma0urq

I propose a reverse of all economic balancing changes made to reign in bitcoin, and leave it be for the entire rest of the wipe. lets see how this goes. A ton of people already have bitcoin farms, none of these changes seriously effect them. lets let them rake in a metric fuck ton of rubles for the rest of the wipe, and actually do something about bitcoin NEXT wipe. Maybe changing it to a static value, like GP coins?

Reverse the tetriz limits. make the solar panels the price it was at the beginning of the wipe.

lets use this as an experiment to see how much a majorly inflated economy affects gameplay.

2 : Anonymous2021/03/21 18:37 ID: grq6kfb

first actually good idea i've seen regarding bitcoin on this subreddit

yes bitcoin is a problem.

but no changes actually hurt those with 50/50 and a full hideout and 50+m of roubles, they only hurt those starting out

do as OP states and wait until the next wipe with introducing measures to limit bitcoin

3 : Anonymous2021/03/21 18:43 ID: grq7e3s

wait a second, isn’t this what is happening?? LOL

Everyone already has fuck tons of roubles mate, Id wager everyone has 3-5x their normal stash value as of now compared to a normal wipe

4 : Anonymous2021/03/21 18:59 ID: grq9blt

Agreed when you "balance" the economy mid wipe it only hurts the people who don't already have solar and 50 gpu's

5 : Anonymous2021/03/21 18:43 ID: grq7cg9

I don't know if I agree with this idea, but I think that making changes like BSG is doing in the middle of a wipe is stupid. Making MAJOR requirements changes like that should be done at the beginning of a wipe, if anything.

6 : Anonymous2021/03/21 17:36 ID: grpz1ig

Who cares at this point. Everyone has infinite money

7 : Anonymous2021/03/21 20:28 ID: grqjvza

Nah, mid-wipe changes are fine and I doubt they are going away, this is a tale as old as time with Tarkov. Newbies whine that they get screwed over by mid-wipe changes and try to use it as excuse for why chads are pushing their shit in.

In truth the chads will always be pushing the bads shit in.

Beyond that bitching that there are changes in a game that is in early access is...beyond stupid. There are literally warnings in the game itself that changes will happen as development rolls on and that is something you accept when playing the early access version.

Yet somehow people still clutch their pearls every time BSG make big changes.

8 : Anonymous2021/03/21 18:12 ID: grq3h5t


ID: grq77jl

wtf does that have to do with anything said in this post?

9 : Anonymous2021/03/21 20:06 ID: grqharj

just remove the fcking bitcoin farm. dumbest shit ever. metagaming done wrong, money for free with 0 effort

ID: grr572r

Wdym, it takes effort to get all the resources and levels to even be able to get it, maybe learn the game

11 : Anonymous2021/03/21 19:18 ID: grqbjzv

Stop whinging on Reddit and start getting better at the game. Maybe try using a gun that fires bullets, instead of stuffing tetris and GPU's in your ass and dying to the Players who do run guns. The tetris nerf has worked very well at demotivating the hatchies, now there is actually loot left on the map after 3mins.

12 : Anonymous2021/03/21 21:30 ID: grqrbrh

Demotivating hatchlings? The past week alone I've had 1-2 hatchlings each run of Interchange on OCE servers.

13 : Anonymous2021/03/21 21:47 ID: grqtb0k

Which is half as many as there were before...

14 : Anonymous2021/03/22 00:18 ID: grrb80j

Yeah I didn't do that but it took me 2 months nearly originally to upgrade my stash to max as an alpha player

I know pay to win when I see it

15 : Anonymous2021/03/21 18:05 ID: grq2mgr

They already tested it. That’s why they changed it..

16 : Anonymous2021/03/21 18:51 ID: grq8aqz

Ur just mad cuz u don't have one and made 20 mill by just signing in every day for a month and then save them untill the price is good.

17 : Anonymous2021/03/21 17:55 ID: grq1dci

Who cares bro

18 : Anonymous2021/03/21 18:21 ID: grq4pqw

People who play the game

19 : Anonymous2021/03/21 21:21 ID: grqqaaj

people who play the game poorly*


20 : Anonymous2021/03/21 21:01 ID: grqnwqw

Lmao the crying on this sub makes this community look so bad

21 : Anonymous2021/03/21 22:13 ID: grqwhit

The total lack of communication from BSG about any changes makes for a bad community.

22 : Anonymous2021/03/22 00:43 ID: grre2u8

No it just pisses off a small group of bad players

23 : Anonymous2021/03/21 22:00 ID: grquv9k

This community is so bad...

24 : Anonymous2021/03/21 22:06 ID: grqvlt6

No the whiny 1% on here are bad. Most players just play and dont bitch because the game is too hard for them. Reddit does not reflect society. Reddit is the bottom.of the barrel as far as people go

25 : Anonymous2021/03/21 21:26 ID: grqqudx

My thought would be have graphics cards start to go bad after a period of time and other “maintenance” to your hideout. The initial grind to get your hideout going makes you scavenge for materials, which is a lot of the fun. Shoreline village is a ghost town. Items used to fix your hideout must be FIR to element just buying them.

26 : Anonymous2021/03/21 23:37 ID: grr6f6n

Then secured containers are useless

27 : Anonymous2021/03/21 22:38 ID: grqzcp8

Perfect solution

28 : Anonymous2021/03/21 19:50 ID: grqfeoz

Economy is already fucked so why not fuck it more?

29 : Anonymous2021/03/21 20:43 ID: grqln91

the change to the trader stock was actually a good one, Its unlikely you’ll be able to get a bitcoin from the barter so they are worthless on the market, makes hatchet running less viable but still doesnt fuck quest rewards or bitcoin farm

30 : Anonymous2021/03/21 21:00 ID: grqnrev

how about we just reduce the spawn rate of tetriz and stop screwing over the average player who doesn't want to camp a 2 hour reset vs bots, oh and the timer is off by around a minute so you don't really have any idea when it is going to reset

31 : Anonymous2021/03/21 22:02 ID: grqv4ls

If they want to keep the bitcoin pricing thing, which is kinda cool, they should scale it on a bell curve pegged to some price.

Eg at the start of the wipe peg bitcoin to a trailing six month average price. If btc is currently moving close to this price, in game prices move 1:1. As the price of btc gets further from the peg price, reduce the rate of change of in game btc price relative to real price. This way we even out btc value a bit without constantly rebalancing or massively inflating everything.

32 : Anonymous2021/03/21 22:14 ID: grqwlq7

I'm running whatever kits and ammo I want. Am still dying, your welcome!

33 : Anonymous2021/03/21 22:17 ID: grqwymw

why did they make bitcoin trade with tetris impossible?,

34 : Anonymous2021/03/21 22:44 ID: grr03jd

What happened? I’m not really following here...

35 : Anonymous2021/03/21 23:05 ID: grr2nqi

If they insist on matching real world prices, why not use the real world price as the max and simply reduce the price the more players sell buttcoins? That would allow them to make shite changes that players hate and appease the community at the same time?

nikita hire me.

36 : Anonymous2021/03/22 00:14 ID: grraq6k

I mean, that's rewarding the guys who get it first yet again.

37 : Anonymous2021/03/21 23:07 ID: grr2uvz

I like the idea of passive income but bitcoin farm is just so unbalanced, especially with the bitcoin prices right. This wipe was the first time I got bitcoin farm and it literally changed the way I played, just because I knew I would have some money coming in regardless if I died.

They just need to nerf bitcoin by A LOT, like 300k max, and keep them at the same goddamn price.

38 : Anonymous2021/03/21 23:08 ID: grr32nb

The economy is already inflated as fuck, almost every match has 1 or 2 giga chad killas with meta vektor and 7n31.

All the more money will do is make the GL enter the battle

39 : Anonymous2021/03/21 23:52 ID: grr87il

I think Tarkov could take some notes from the economy system in elite dangerous. They have it down pretty good.

40 : Anonymous2021/03/22 00:19 ID: grrbacu

Literally p2w. Nikita fix you cheeky bastard

41 : Anonymous2021/03/22 00:25 ID: grrc09t

easy fix force wipe and change some parts the economy its not like we arent fine with it its way to easy to get high level gear now and there is no changing it without a force wipe

42 : Anonymous2021/03/22 00:36 ID: grrd8yf

LOL. Reddit is the smallest piece of the Tarkov community.

Most players and especially veterans who've been playing since Day 1 don't waste their time on this sub.

This sub is mostly filled with horrible ideas from casuals... Who think the game is hard... LOL.

It's just full of rats who want the game to be changed to cater to their individual shitter rat lifestyle.

Every so often there's a decent idea (but was thought of 100x before) and it's ignored/downvoted by all the rats.

The rats out number the actual good players who understand the game itself and BSG's intention with it.

Veteran take? Remove flea market. Remove FiR. 100% restrictions to secure containers. Balance entire game based on solo economy via HIDEOUT. Rework entire trader system. Maybe everyone has their own trader stock. If they do introduce dynamic events that affect Traders, all players Traders have same effect, etc.

Imagine a hideout with way more crafts. Crafts that make sense. Also cutting the time on most crafts. Being able to craft more than a few things without the elite skill... You could be self sufficient. Imagine traders being completely reworked with way more barter trades that also make sense.

I could go on and on... Anyways. This experiment doesn't need to be done because you're just asking for it to be like it was already. So that DATA already exists. We lived it. Now they are either blind or testing another way.

I do agree though that these sort of things need to happen more and with more aspects of the game. I'd like to see the 'flea market' removed for a wipe that way all the new players see what the game was like before it existed. (way better with actual sense of progression and takes longer to be chad geared... No more crying 1-2 weeks into the wipe... For another wipe....)

43 : Anonymous2021/03/22 00:38 ID: grrdjas

I was 20 mil first week of wipe didnt need to farm interchange all i did was learn how shit new woods was and got a few red rebels and violet keycards farming sturman using a pistol to kill sniper scav for their loadout

44 : Anonymous2021/03/22 00:40 ID: grrdt79

Yes please

45 : Anonymous2021/03/21 19:57 ID: grqg75k

Absolutely. In game bitcoin will be worth nearly 2 million roubles in a month. Thats going to be bonkers

Maybe make it so you get 0.05 BTC each drop instead of 0.2

When BTC hits 1 million dolla IRL the price of a bitcoin in game is going to be retarded.

edit: Not sure if downvoted by people with crypto denial syndrome or people who want an obscene amount of free in game currency

46 : Anonymous2021/03/21 20:55 ID: grqn3f2

Yep, I think once BTC price gets high enough in real life, BSG will nerf the shit out of it. Either dropping a BTC value to 0.1 or 0.05, and making spawn rates rare as hell.

47 : Anonymous2021/03/21 18:53 ID: grq8k05

It's been broken imo this wipe, they need to change it, not sure how, many make it so you can't sell bitcoin but you can barter for some nice gear, ot sure but the current way is not fun imo

48 : Anonymous2021/03/21 19:39 ID: grqe4mt

Boo hoo people have money to buy gear that they lose in one shot to the head

49 : Anonymous2021/03/21 18:56 ID: grq8xfq


50 : Anonymous2021/03/21 17:55 ID: grq1emo

I'm glad i rushed my hideout at the start of the wipe, prices for everything are absolutely ridiculous now. I know that it's been said before but it really seems like the best way to fix this is to decouple BTC price from IRL prices.

having inflation worse than now would only push away newer players and EFT needs a constant influx to balance out the ppl leaving

51 : Anonymous2021/03/21 18:14 ID: grq3squ

best way to fix this is to decouple BTC price from IRL prices

I kind of like the variability of BTC. I would like to see restrictions on ammo more so than nerfing BTC. I feel like people should only really be able to top load that M995 level ammo. I really don't think you should be able to bring 3x60 round drums of M995 to every single raid, and not because of price, but because of availability.


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