“Sin Always Returns For Its Spawn”

1 : Anonymous2021/03/05 19:16 ID: lyjk07

My girlfriend is playing through FFX for the first time, and just got through Operations Mi'ihen. When the guard at the command center says "Sin always returns for its spawn," she observed that in this case, the sinspawn it would be coming back for... is Tidus. Can't believe I never put 2 and 2 together - 18 years and a dozen playthroughs later, there's still new things to notice about this game.

2 : Anonymous2021/03/05 20:06 ID: gpt7fqg

You just blew my mind

3 : Anonymous2021/03/06 02:12 ID: gpukusm

Your girl's a keeper bro.

4 : Anonymous2021/03/05 21:44 ID: gptjz4i

It’s not because Tidus is a sin spawn. He’s a dream of the fayth. As someone else mentioned it’s Jecht checking on Tidus. As Auron said “he wants to show you what he’s capable of so you can stop him” or something like that.

ID: gpu3c8n

LOL I don't think anyone is asserting that Tidus is a sin spawn. OP is just pointing out a parallel in the narrative.

"Sin always returns for its spawn" can mean both:

Sin is compelled to come back for Sinspawn it leaves behind The current Sin (Jecht) is returning again to Tidus, his son

This post does make me wonder though... why exactly does Sin return to retrieve Sinspawn? And what is the point of dropping them off around the world in the first place? Is this something Yu Yevon is in control of? Or maybe the current iteration of Sin does it in a futile attempt to discard some of Sin's power while it's still in control, but then is compelled to return to retrieve it once Yu Yevon has fully corrupted it.

ID: gpv4g7s

Her point was that to us, as the audience, that line has multiple meanings - how regular Spirans understand it is one, but the other is the dramatic irony of us knowing that Tidus is, in this case, the spawn of Sin. The latter meaning is one I had never thought about before, and I thought it was interesting and observant.

ID: gptnidy

Yea this

5 : Anonymous2021/03/05 21:15 ID: gptgd4d

Wait... what? How did I never get that?

6 : Anonymous2021/03/05 21:25 ID: gpthpq5

I mean it might be true that sin returns for its spawns from earlier Sins.

In this case jecht as Sin comes back for his son, not because he spawned him in Spira. Jecht always checks on tidus (Baaj Temple, S.S Liki, operation Mihen, Macalania, and Zanarkand).

P. S Aurons hints before and tells tidus after the operation that he came for tidus but for different reason to sin spawn.

7 : Anonymous2021/03/06 02:38 ID: gpupbo7

I like the dual meaning. Noice.

8 : Anonymous2021/03/05 21:12 ID: gptfzxj

I noticed that the other day when I was replaying the game and never had put the two together before.

9 : Anonymous2021/03/05 20:25 ID: gpt9srn

Yep... epic.

10 : Anonymous2021/03/05 22:14 ID: gptnmnd

You must of spoiled the ending for her... if this is her first play through that is but anyways as someone pointed out he’s a dream of the faith not a sin spawn I love the theory though

ID: gptwct3

Not necessarily. By this point it’s known that Sin is Jecht. But she just arrived at a different conclusion.


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