Youtubers need to stop lying about targeted loot farming.

1 : Anonymous2021/05/13 18:14 ID: nbn9jv

You CAN NOT farm specific legendaries through expeditions. All these different channels saying that you can are lying to get views and subs and twitch viewers. It's a despicable business practice and I honestly don't know how these people can sleep at night knowing that they're misleading people. You can target loot farm through Noah but that's the only one that I know of.

EDIT: Let me clarify before anyone gets confused as my original post wasn't descriptive enough. Certain channels are saying you have a higher chance of getting specific guns or armors from specific expeditions, which is false. I just wanted to spread awareness to keep people from spending hours in expeditions they don't like.

2 : Anonymous2021/05/13 19:25 ID: gy0is37

Even in this thread people are still saying "yeah buuut".

There isn't targeted drops from expeditions period, there also isn't a requirement to run EOTS to get all legendaries, nor a world tier requirement.

1327+ expeditions, 15+ days of game time.

My account is sitting at like 99% of legendary weapons acquired, 95% of legendary armor pieces acquired (100% of pyro and techno, don't play the others as much), my highest world tier is WT13, I almost exclusively run Chem plant, boomtown and archways and I haven't completed eye of the storm on any character.

That alone should tell you that drops are purely RNG and not any of this clickbait conspiracy nonsense.

ID: gy0wli1

Bingo! I got 3 deathshields in a row on 3 completely different “non-shotgun” expeditions as they would call them. It’s really horse doo doo.

I have a lot of time on this game and have all 4 classes, pyro being main and expos i mostly run are chem plant, boom town, mountain outpost, colosseum and drought palace. I literally got everything from those expos.

The world we live in is filled with people who would say anything to get views and attention because they hope to become rich being a streame


The funniest part is when they tell you, oh you gotta have 10 lego runs to get this on an expedition that is supposedly dropping specific loot. It’s hilarious, if you ran any 20 expos including no lego runs i guarantee you thw chances of getting the item you need would be very high.

The whole thing is a joke but as long as there are gullible people, there will be snake oil salesmen.

ID: gy0l4u3

It would be nice to actually know for sure, though lol confirmation bias is a helluva drug

ID: gy0pt4v

I mean I guess it depends on your version of "know for sure".

Youtube clickbait says you need EOTS completion and to run paxian for deathshield and acari drops


players get deathshield and full acari without ever beating EOTS or running paxian

I know for sure clickbait is garbage lies

3 : Anonymous2021/05/13 21:33 ID: gy10qjh

Fucking LaserBolt is notorious for doing this shit, it's cringe as fuck. At least put some actual effort into your content instead of baiting people and getting their hopes up for no reason.

4 : Anonymous2021/05/13 18:46 ID: gy0d2uu

Honestly, without any data-mining to really give us the facts, any perceived drop wonkiness leads to all sorts of loot superstition.

I think it's one of those things where the superstition doesn't necessarily hurt as long as you're not wasting a bunch of time doing only those particular expeditions. For example, me and buddy were both hunting for a Siesmic Commander helmet, we followed the superstitions of "go to Colosseum after you get Bronze or better in EotS", and we both got our helms (he got it first try, I got mine in the 4th or 5th run)... but we weren't backing out of lobbies and rejoining just to get this specific expedition in rotation. If it wasn't available, we just did whatever was available that we wanted to do.

ID: gy162f6

I agree. Without a datamine anyone saying anything for or against is just guessing.

5 : Anonymous2021/05/13 18:45 ID: gy0cxjz

It’s click bait, that’s never going to stop.

6 : Anonymous2021/05/13 18:39 ID: gy0c0dg

It would put an end to this if PCF would make an official statement about this.

ID: gy0d8w2

I agree they should just say something, but it also wouldn’t matter, IMO. The fact is YT is just littered with bad-faith actors who are basically digital hustlers who in another age would have been running cons on street tourists. And that’s not even to speak of the professional hate clickbait YTers with their manufactured outrage about every game.

ID: gy1czm9

PCF is stuck on the sign-on screen.

7 : Anonymous2021/05/13 18:59 ID: gy0ey3f

Do you gain experience from redoing historian and wanted missions?

I am trying to grind up in levels so expeditions go easier for me playing solo. I just dont know it its moving anything my class tier. I'm on 12 now.

ID: gy0h5w2

Yes. Anything you do you get xp. Just replay story mode 😀

ID: gy0hbsd

Do you move past level 30 for the character as well or just class tier

ID: gy0icuv

You can gain XP from redoing them, yes. But. WT XP and CT/Expedition XP are two different things.

I'm not sure what the conversion rate is but we replayed quests until we were WT15, then switched to expos. It started us at CT4 -- whether that is the standard starting place or the WT15 place, I have no idea.

ID: gy0j65a

I'm more trying to gain levels past 30, as that's where I'm at right now. I've seen other people at lvl 50. That's the xp that I'm trying to build up.

ID: gy0ko4w

I personally just kept doing the hunt sequence on max wt over and over to finish up my lvl and WT. One full cycle was about 1 full WT, and the whole thing usually gets done in about 45 min.

If you do this to grind legendaries, do all but the last hunt. Of your choosing on wt1, then the last on wt15-- you should be able to cycle it in about 30 minutes.**

** this only gets you level xp, not WT

ID: gy0oncs

From what I've seen, as long as you're on top level tier, each kill adds xp to your world tier. Even low level creatures, just a minuscule amount.

8 : Anonymous2021/05/13 22:19 ID: gy16axd

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Been working on something 🙂 all the data. Only accurate for parties of 3. With that said, don't take this as a 1 to 1. Rng is rng ya know and there are so many other variables that are not accounted for (i.e trickster shotgun class tree)

You're gonna wanna head to the drop rates tab.

ID: gy170d6

love this and your stream!

ID: gy1iq1q

Eyy, lord. Ty ty! Doing my 14 hour 20 minute stream tomorrow (5/14) at 2pm pst.

ID: gy1i5wg

Few things missing? Does that mean they never dropped?

ID: gy1inpp


Edit: J6 ty for the Plat! Sheeeeesh

ID: gy1j0xg

Also, wondering how many runs to compile this data?

ID: gy1jbct

Check the calculated runs tab 🙂

Edit: we're not even close to being done. I do need to run other maps more often though lol.

9 : Anonymous2021/05/13 20:43 ID: gy0u6c6

Yes they lie. Having legendaries drop in specific expeditions is a lie. The truth is the legendaries don't drop anywhere so you're pretty much screwed no matter what you do.

10 : Anonymous2021/05/13 21:26 ID: gy0zubd

you know what i love the most about these stupid "guaranteed xx-loot" farm videos?

they aaaaaaaalways say something like:

"trust me. i've gotten it xx out of yy tries." (not 1:1 which means it's not guaranteed, LOL)

or the biggest LOL is:

"if you don't get it after a run. just run it again and you'll eventually get it."

uhh... yea...? that's how RNG works...?

11 : Anonymous2021/05/13 20:55 ID: gy0vvew

Devil’s Advocate here “And you know that isn’t the case because...” Not disagreeing but you seem to be more knowledgeable than me... care to share how you know that they are being dishonest?

ID: gy0yyx4

There's no actual data to back any of it up.

ID: gy0zb79

I know for a fact that Lazerbolt runs 100’s of expeditions along with other members on his discord to compile stats. Ultimately you are right there isnt any data from the developers but its not difficult to see patterns which beg the question of whether certain expeditions are “weighted” differently.

12 : Anonymous2021/05/13 19:39 ID: gy0kwza

How does this thread have any more credibility than YouTube videos lmfao

13 : Anonymous2021/05/13 19:14 ID: gy0h48c

I agree with you, and i dont believe in tageted loot, however...... i did get my deathshield from paxian as it was stated in the video (in my 2nd run, but i also found 3 more deathsield from boom town and archways) , and i also dropped my acari chest drom mountain outpost very quickly (but i also found 2 more from chem plant and archways) so it may be confusing, i dont think that there is enough data to actually confirm or 100% deny it. Rng is a bitch, thats all i know.

ID: gy0nad8

I've gotten 2 Acari chests from Scorched Lands and 4 Deathshields from Timeworn Spire. I got a Funeral Pyre and a Bulwark on Boom Town, and the very next run on Stargrave, I got a Funeral Pyre and a Bulwark.

It's RNG.

ID: gy0olfd

Thats what i said 🙂 its all rng, but it may let you think that it isnt.

14 : Anonymous2021/05/13 22:17 ID: gy1625n

DO THIS NOW!!!! LEDGENDARY FARM!!! 10 minute video that basically tells you to play the game

ID: gy1cfby


Oh guys its not that good - I only got 3 legendaries after 500 runs but I got so many purples and like so many dismantles...

15 : Anonymous2021/05/13 22:20 ID: gy16ffw

You know a game is borked when there’s division in its community as to the definition of RNG and whether or not there is weighted loot. Lol. Such a shame, this game was really fun.

16 : Anonymous2021/05/13 22:32 ID: gy17x1d

This thread could have easily been called Youtubers need to stop lying.

17 : Anonymous2021/05/13 22:43 ID: gy1990j

It's a bait for people who are desperate.

18 : Anonymous2021/05/13 22:53 ID: gy1acs5

I honestly don't know how these people can sleep at night knowing that they're misleading people.

It's very simple, they don't give a shit about other people. It's all about padding their bottom line and anything else just doesn't factor in at all.

19 : Anonymous2021/05/13 23:15 ID: gy1d0m7

It's especially irritating now that I'm no longer playing this game. Still getting notifications from all the bullshit Outriders channels that I haven't gotten around to unsubscribing from.

20 : Anonymous2021/05/13 23:21 ID: gy1doww

Pcf need to make a loot system that isn't dog shit.

21 : Anonymous2021/05/13 23:27 ID: gy1ed3a

I have ran literally hundreds of expeditions and I have seen about everything drop everywhere. Its ALL RNG.

I agree buddy, those channels are garbage click bait.

22 : Anonymous2021/05/14 00:03 ID: gy1il5d

Clickbait exists because gullible morons exist, I doubt either will go away anytime soon unfortunately.

23 : Anonymous2021/05/14 00:10 ID: gy1jd77

Outriders has a weirdly intense youtube presence. I think they went a little far with the ambassador program for a non-live-service game.

24 : Anonymous2021/05/14 00:15 ID: gy1k0gd

Would it be a farfetched conspiracy to believe that the game collects your data and holds loot drops against you to keep you playing?

25 : Anonymous2021/05/14 00:21 ID: gy1kppb

It’s easy from them to lie, because PCF is silent on loot drop. You can say what ever you want on reddit, players will be trusting youtubers. The only way is PCF to tell the truth.

26 : Anonymous2021/05/13 20:36 ID: gy0t8o3

Except, you can.

27 : Anonymous2021/05/13 18:47 ID: gy0d8n9

I agree, but we don’t actually know that different expo’s don’t have different loot tables

In desperation I followed one of these charlatans and actually got 7/12 Lego drops as shotguns! Sadly not the one I wanted but still!


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