Thinking about switching over to AMD

1 : Anonymous2021/10/25 17:41 ID: qfm362

Been using intels for the last 4 years or so of gaming. I’ve watched YouTube videos and stuff, but sometimes the advice from internet strangers can be enough to help me pull the trigger.

I currently have an i9-9900k, that’s cooled with a kraken x52 paired with a 3080.I primarily game but id like to have a edit work station should my work flow need it. I work in video production.

I have a 1440p 240hrtz monitor that I’m really wanting to get the most out of. Obviously i know I’m not going to be pushing 240 on ultra ( i rarely play on those settings anyway)

What cpu is a great pairing with a 3080 for high frames at that resolution?

I was looking at the Ryzen 9 5950x and a ASUSx570-E.

I appreciate any time taken in aiding my upgrades!

EDIT: Looks like we’re keeping it w the current setup. Thanks to all that weighed in!!

2 : Anonymous2021/10/25 17:56 ID: hi0fxjc

I currently have an i9-9900k

I have a 1440p 240hrtz

I was looking at the Ryzen 9 5950x

Unless it's for very specific games where those specific games gain a huge fps increase from 5000 series Ryzen, keep your 9900k and wait for next gen of intel/ryzen and see how those end up, you likely won't see much, if any, increase in FPS at 1440p going from a 9900k to a 5950x.

ID: hi0glhr

Yea that seems to be the consensus here! I’m glad i came and asked because i had a cart ready to check out lol. I’ll start looking forward to what’s to come. Thanks for the help!

3 : Anonymous2021/10/25 17:44 ID: hi0e6ho

New gen intel and amd processors are due soon. Probably wait for reviews of those. If they don't do it wait for intel 13th gen or amd's zen4 both launching probably q3/q4 2022

ID: hi0envi


ID: hi0eu3k

Okay awesome. I’ll be patient and see how the reviews go. Would make more sense if I’m going for that big of a purchase to get the newest one. Thanks for the advice!

4 : Anonymous2021/10/25 19:03 ID: hi0ps6f

Keep your 9990k

5 : Anonymous2021/10/25 17:49 ID: hi0eyzh

I doubt you're going to see significant frame rate increases at 1440p from your video card, except perhaps for very CPU intensive games. The 9900K isn't quite cutting edge these days but it still got very, very good per-core performance (if you don't mind the power consumption, which I guess you're used to by now anyway), and it should be fully capable of saturating a 3080 at that resolution.

The 5950X has a lot more cores, but that's not likely to translate into very much more game performance with your setup with current generation games. By the time this changes, there will be considerably more powerful options available from both Intel and AMD.

Save up your money and get a 4080 / RDNA3 card next year.

ID: hi0g6ya

Thank you for the insight on not much of a frame rate upgrade w the 3080. I’ve kinda been thinking my cpu has been holding it back but there aren’t much numbers that prove that in terms of bottlenecking. I do play escape from tarkov which is mega heavy on the cpu.

I have a buddy that has a 3080ti that was considering trading me for my card but it doesn’t seem like the performance jump to the TI is going to be a huge jump either.

I just gotta be patient. It seems like it will pay off

ID: hi0ks9l

I do play escape from tarkov which is mega heavy on the cpu.

You might see an improvement using Zen3 then, but again, the difference won't be all that huge coming from a 9900K. Unless you have cash to burn you're talking about a $700+ CPU and a $200+ motherboard for an incremental improvement.

Seriously, hold out for Alder Lake or Zen4, plus DDR5. If you're gonna blow a grand on a new motherboard & CPU, get a proper generational improvement.

But you'll still almost be certainly better off spending that money on a new GPU, especially as the 3080 should still be worth something for quite a while yet.

6 : Anonymous2021/10/25 19:33 ID: hi0uhlz

Intel's new Alder Lake CPUs will start selling next month. AMD's 3D V-cache CPUs will start selling early next year. This isn't the best time to upgrade.

ID: hi0zhul

Yea that’s what it seems. We’re holding!!

7 : Anonymous2021/10/25 19:45 ID: hi0w9qc

Yeah, wait for the next gen. You're only about 5-8% off peak fps from a 5950X. Both intel and AMD should have really compelling products.

Source: Have 5950X with 3080 Ti

8 : Anonymous2021/10/25 19:48 ID: hi0wmva

Another point: Upgrading now is rather pointless. We're on the last gen of DDR4, AND PCIe 4.0 (that just came out ironically)

DDR5, PCIe 5.0, etc are all around the corner. Maybe wait for the second gen of DDR5 motherboards and memory. That'll be a banging upgrade as opposed to a middling one.

9 : Anonymous2021/10/25 19:04 ID: hi0py97

Your fine for the next year or two.

10 : Anonymous2021/10/25 19:11 ID: hi0r1l3

Keep the 9900k until ddr5 is worth buying. You're gonna get next to no benefit in games. If you need a stupid cpu for other things ok... but just for gaming? You will get single digit improvement at your resolution.

ID: hi0zgo7

Yea….the result definitely doesn’t outweigh the costs right now. I will just relax and stifle that fire. Shouldn’t have bought the new monitor lolol

ID: hi0zmlc

Well of you go ultrawide or 4k cpu will matter even less

11 : Anonymous2021/10/25 21:35 ID: hi1ces3

Why would you change your i9-9900k?!? Is this a joke?!? Am I missing something?

12 : Anonymous2021/10/25 19:58 ID: hi0y90c

In your case keep with Intel 9900K and wait for new Intel 12th or Zen 4

Another option is to go with Ryzen 3D V-cache

13 : Anonymous2021/10/25 17:51 ID: hi0f5ia

5950X with a different X570 board is a great choice.

X570S Gigabyte Aorus AeroG/Aorus Pro AC

14 : Anonymous2021/10/25 19:09 ID: hi0qp3c

Wait until Jan, new Intel launch then AMD.

15 : Anonymous2021/10/25 22:15 ID: hi1i0dy

You'd be waisting money to gain 2% extra frames in games that already run at really high frame rates. Save your money. Intel 12th gen is supposed to have a massive IPC increase. Keep an eye out for that.

16 : Anonymous2021/10/25 22:29 ID: hi1juf2

You're honestly good until meteor lake / zen 4.

17 : Anonymous2021/10/25 23:30 ID: hi1rxbb

Don't just buy a computer just because you can. Buy a computer if there is something a new computer will allow you to do that you cannot do now. You don't need the new and shiny if what you're doing is working great.

18 : Anonymous2021/10/25 23:43 ID: hi1tqdd

Currently your system is fine for whatever you would need. Unless you absolutely need to upgrade your system, I would wait until you know for certain your PC can't run stuff at decent performance levels.

19 : Anonymous2021/10/25 23:50 ID: hi1ujzp

You're about jump on AMD when Intel is releasing a possibly better CPU in a matter of days.

20 : Anonymous2021/10/25 23:51 ID: hi1ur82

Wait for new ryzens your cpu is still good Dont buy asus mobo but gigabyte aorus Don't forget switch to radeons sometime 😀

21 : Anonymous2021/10/25 18:57 ID: hi0oykc

Go for the 5950X it'll be fast enough for 10 solid years

ID: hi0x4bw

No it won't. Two more generations of Zen will have the 5950X looking downright ancient. Too much is about to change on the architecture and interconnect side of things.

22 : Anonymous2021/10/25 20:12 ID: hi1080b

I notice a lot of people are not taking into consideration your editing work station bit.

For gaming, I really doubt you'll run into issues for a while. My 5900x barely goes above 20% utilization in gaming, even on 1440p BFV ultra @ steady 144fps. The 5900x and 5950x are overkill for gaming and will stay that way for a while I think.

However, for editing (photo and video) you'll see a difference. I went from a 7700k to a 5900x and the difference was insane. Using Cinebench scores alone my the 5900x is 259% faster than my old 7700k. The 5950x is about 120% faster than your 9900k, in multicore performance.

IMO, unless you are really needing the difference I'd wait. It isn't exactly the best time to buy PC parts right now any. DDR5 is on the way too which means you'll need to buy a new mobo/cpu if you plan to upgrade past a 5950x

23 : Anonymous2021/10/25 20:15 ID: hi10pig

So for gaming you need to look and see if you are getting cpu bottlenecked or not.

If your cpu is keeping up with your 3080 and you upgraded to a much faster CPU, guess what, your fps is still the same in game because your cpu was always keeping up with your GPU, and it's because of your GPU that you won't see an increase in frames in game.

Now for workstation and editing, that's a different story, cpu upgrade will help.

We don't know final pricing yet but it's rumored that 12th gen i9 will cost $1,000 dollars. Plus DDR5 will be super expensive as it will be brand new.

I say wait since your 9900k is more than capable and If the prices turn out to be true, upgrade to a 5950x and 64gb of 3600mhz cl16 ram for your editing workstation as it'll be much cheaper and still a beast for workstation and gaming. And then in a couple years when PCIe gen 5 and DDR5 get more optimized and cheaper, and more powerful GPUs come out where a faster CPU is needed to keep up, then upgrade.

24 : Anonymous2021/10/25 21:27 ID: hi1b8gh

Want my honest advice after spending more then 2k on an amd build?

If you feel like youre going to be able to deal with constant small bugs, little small things that work in a weird way, instead of just plug and play with your current Intel, then sure go for amd.

Just check the amd help sub and see for yourself the ridiculous amount of small problems and details that people encounter.

Meanwhile I will tell you my own. 6800xt - constant software bugs, cpu usage always bouncing around even though I play in 1440p, gpu clock bouncing as well and your fps crack down.

Cpu wise - advertised 4.8ghz which your cpu will never be able to sustain, and even though you can tweak around CO to get 4.8 while gaming guess what? The cpu performs worst when reaching those 4.8ghz then at default when it goes up to

Yeah that's my amd experience so far.

OH I almost forgot, since 2 weeks ago, out of nowhere, my cpu goes straight to thermal limit on cb r23, and stays 12C hotter while gaming then before.

Coming to amd sub asking if you should buy an amd product doesn't seem like a smart choice for me.


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