5600X vs 5800X?

1 : Anonymous2021/11/28 15:27 ID: r46qqi

Hi guys,

Upgrading my build right now and I'm stuck on the 5600X vs. 5800X. I know historically people went with the 5600X due to stupid pricing from the 5800X, but I'm looking at £310 for a 5800X vs £270 for a 5600X so there's no real difference in price.

For this price difference I'd normally just go for the 5800X, but this is a 99% 1440p gaming build with discord etc running in the background. Would I see any benefit in going for the 5800X or would I just see higher thermals making it a pointless exercise going for the 5800X?

2 : Anonymous2021/11/28 15:31 ID: hmeqi7b

For 40 pounds I would get the extra cores, the 5800x will probably age much better once games start hitting the cpu more as we swap to current gen console games only.

ID: hmeqx1n

That was my first thought, but then I began to consider if the additional power draw and heat was worth it compared to a 5600X...

ID: hmera8a

All I'll say to that is, im glad I got a 4790k instead of a 4690k when I built my PC because I likely would've needed to change the cpu out much earlier.
Especially since the pricing is so close with the 5800x

ID: hmfkt4d

Don't forget that you can set the power package limit in the bios, but remember that a "65W TDP" chip will be "88" (Watts) on such a setting, which it will generally only ever peak to but average around the value of 65W. I can't remember for certain but I think a '105W TDP' chip such as the 5800x will be down as '142W'.

Simply set the PPL lower and the chip will be forced to consume less power and generate less heat (this was proven a few years back to be the ideal way to undervolt rather than set a negative voltage offset).

Of course it won't clock quite as high in your usage, but if you want your 5800x to be as consuming as a 5600x, punch in 88. If you want it to be a nice middle ground, try something like 100. A 5800x may manage to hit higher frequencies with less power than a 5600x, but that depends entire on the quality of the chip.

ID: hmeucv1

Barely any difference

ID: hmfh70i

It's like 10-20w more. It's not a big deal. Really any cooler you'll buy can handle it fine.

ID: hmf26d5

Quad core CPUs still hold up today so at what point is an 8-core going to come in handy for games?

ID: hmfi9yp

The new battlefield 2042 already shows gains at 6 vs 8 cores. I'd say when we stop seeing games released for last gen systems it'll show gains larger.

ID: hmf329d

8core cpus are already necessary to reach peak performance, no matter the GPU.

Next gen games (2023) will eat 8 cores and beg for a few more.

ID: hmh1w4r

They only hold up if you play old or non-demanding games.

ID: hmhjlqp

Also depends on his PSU wattage

3 : Anonymous2021/11/28 15:55 ID: hmett2h

No question get the 5800

4 : Anonymous2021/11/28 16:27 ID: hmey9ay

Get the 5800x imo, it’s on sale cause the 12600k competes with it at $300 and the only thing stopping ppl from getting the 12600k is availability and mobo price, it’s a hefty sum compared to the matured am4 platform. Right now the 5600x needs to be pushed to $240 imo to stay relevant

ID: hmgoii6

The 5600x was a questionable purchase at $299 from the beginning. IMO the 12600K has just stone-cold killed it and it should really be about $229 by now.

ID: hml4hfk

Yeah it suplexed it, the 3600 is irrelevant now so it needs to be slashed in price to remain price competitive

5 : Anonymous2021/11/28 15:46 ID: hmesm18

The 5800x only puts out more heat if its working harder (ie giving more frames or completing a task faster) so you'll be getting benefit if its putting off more heat.

6 : Anonymous2021/11/28 16:06 ID: hmevaxv

5800x if you have good airflow case and good cpu heat sink

7 : Anonymous2021/11/28 17:14 ID: hmf4vyk

5800x for the 8 cores as games such as BF2042 are utilizing 8 cores and giving a performance uplift over 6 core parts and that’s most likely going to continue in the upcoming years.

8 : Anonymous2021/11/28 18:54 ID: hmfjwvs


9 : Anonymous2021/11/28 18:58 ID: hmfkf63

5800X,unless you are planning to upgrade to Zen 4

10 : Anonymous2021/11/28 19:03 ID: hmflauj

5800x is the way to go imo !

11 : Anonymous2021/11/28 19:22 ID: hmfo3ds

5800X for sure

I had similar choice 2 years ago between 3600(X) and 3700X(3800X) and went with 3800X, no regrets. Price difference (6 vs 8 cores) was like $120 tho.

And here you have this choice 6 vs 8 cores with price diff £40 when 8 cores needed in some games already, and more games will utilize 8 cores in couple years for sure.

So if I were in your shoes I would choose 5800X without thinking.

12 : Anonymous2021/11/28 18:07 ID: hmfcmxr

I am glad I went for the 5800x over the 5600x. (also comes with a heating function!)

I don't see myself changing it anytime soon, it should age pretty decently.

13 : Anonymous2021/11/28 22:14 ID: hmgdwyv

It it's only 40 extra you'll be happier with the 5800x. I friend of my live streams and appreciates the extra cores then.

14 : Anonymous2021/11/29 01:01 ID: hmh14ae

at those prices 5800x no qestion asked

15 : Anonymous2021/11/28 17:24 ID: hmf6boc

Had a 5600x earlier, and now have a 5800x, I am happy with it, for some games I can see a difference, for others not. Yes it is hot, still I kept the same CPU cooler, readjusted my fan curves and all goes perfect.

One thing I should still say, I have a gold sample, whereas my 5600x was bronze, with few underclock possible with PBO2. My 5800x has way more room, and thus I can calm it down easily.

ID: hmkxevy

Which cooler do you use?

16 : Anonymous2021/11/28 19:37 ID: hmfqbzq

Just plan for a better cooler on 5800, it runs a good deal hotter. Extra cores are always great, now or later.

17 : Anonymous2021/11/29 03:26 ID: hmhk8we

PC games are mostly made by cross-porting between PC and XBox. Right now, they’re building stuff that’ll run on an XBone, which only allows a game to load four cores, which are all much slower than anything in a modern PC. Expect them to shift to XBox Series, which allows 7 cores to be fully loaded by a game.

The 8 core CPU will age better, once games start dropping XBone support.

18 : Anonymous2021/11/29 09:51 ID: hmijmpa

5800x today make sense

19 : Anonymous2021/11/29 10:21 ID: hmilouc

5800x no question.

Literally zero question at that price difference. The 5800x with the price drop is now arguably the most attractive AMD CPU for gaming, since the competition of the i5 12600k is heating up the market.

ID: hmkxo2p

I’d take the 5800X over the 12600K right now, honestly. Yes, the 12600K is ~15% faster in multi-core, but the 5800X is genuinely at least $100 cheaper right now given how affordable and fantastic B550 is.

ID: hml39cw

I just had a quick look on pcpartpicker at some roughly similar but minimal cost entry points for each in my current local market in the UK.

i5 12600k, MSI Pro Z690-A, 16gb Crucial Ballistix 3200 c16, beQuiet ShadowRock3 (


R7 5800x, MSI B550 MPG Gaming Plus, 16gb Crucial Ballistix 3200 c16, beQuiet ShadowRock3 (


I obviously love AMD and Zen3, and you're right that b550 is really stable now and that RAM will most likely be able to set xmp then just set the frequency to 3600 without changing anything else and it should work great.

But at those prices, and even with AlderLake being a new platform with possible instabilities etc ... I would definitely buy the newer and faster platform. Even if we drop the motherboard on the AMD setup another £30 to a microATX board, I think I would still choose the AlderLake setup, to be on the bleeding edge.

20 : Anonymous2021/11/29 15:01 ID: hmjcjx5


21 : Anonymous2021/11/29 22:40 ID: hml7xaf

5800X for sure, but learn to use Curve Optimizer and have a good cooler and/or use Eco Mode.

22 : Anonymous2021/11/28 17:49 ID: hmfa237

Both are good. You really can't go wrong.

23 : Anonymous2021/11/28 23:41 ID: hmgq5ef

IMO I'd save your money and stick with a 5600x, I'm using one for 1440p gaming and no issues at all. Plus it uses less power and produces less heat for a much quieter system

24 : Anonymous2021/11/28 15:27 ID: hmeq3uc

Very little benefit if you're just gaming with discord.

25 : Anonymous2021/11/29 05:37 ID: hmhzktt

The 5600x is fine if all you do is basic stuff or dedicated gaming. If you are the kind of person to be running chrome and discord and a game and other stuff then the extra cores are definitely appreciated.

26 : Anonymous2021/11/29 13:43 ID: hmj396c

If you game, 5600x is the way to go. Much cooler.

When the next generation arrives, 6600x will be better than 5800x so no point in future proofing. If you need the extra “expensive cores”, go for the 5800x. In gaming there is no difference now


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