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A few months back I decided to order a Ryzen 3 3300X for a new build. It was listed as out of stock, but it had an expected delivery in 2-3 weeks which I didn't have a problem with. It's now 3 months later and expected delivery is in the beginning of January so I'm starting to think this ain't gonna happen. I've talked to the vendor and they say the expected delivery time based on info from their supplier, and it seems they don't see a problem in stringing me along forever.
To be honest I haven't paid so much attention to the chip shortage situation because buying anything new hasn't been on my mind in forever since I'm a student. But now my old computer is starting to croak and I wanted to do a minimum budget build while still getting some good performance, and based on reviews the 3300X seemed the best choice for the price.
But of course it's out of stock everywhere and I can't find any information on when it's coming back or if it even will be back.
Do I have no choice but to cash out for a 5600G or 5600X at double the price of a 3300X?
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best choice for the price
$150~ 10400F that's on par with Ryzen 3600 and sometimes beating it, has been the best choice for price for around 2 years now:
And intel B560 boards now support RAM OC and CPU power limit OC
You can get an i3-10100F or 10105F for only $70~90 and those will be on par with a 3300X when paired with 3200 RAM
It's unfortunate, but intel is currently budget king.
7nm is currently swamped with high demand, so AMD ain't gonna make older 3300X
IF 7nm is too busy, I'd rather see AMD hit GloFlo again and maybe make 1600AF+ with the new and improved 12nm+ LP process:
GlobalFoundries’ 12LP+ manufacturing technology builds upon the company’s 12LP process yet enables a 20% increase in performance (at the same power and complexity) or a 40% reduction in power requirements (at the same clocks and complexity) as well as a 15% improvement in logic area scaling when compared to 12LP platform.
Imagine a 1600AF with 20% improvement... Would put it close to Ryzen 3600 in performance while costing much less due to cheaper 12nm process
Or make Vega again with 40% better power efficiency... No more hot vega 56/64
Imagine a Vega 64 pulling only 180W~ instead of 300W!
ID: hmzf66bID: hmyytq2RE: the new GLoFo process:
It is not design compatible with the old 14/12nm, so it doesn't make much sense to port old designs to it. If you have to completely port a design for it, it might as well be Zen2 (4 cores, one CCX) or RDNA2. In fact, one rumor is exactly this: a new Zen2 APU with a single 4 core CCX and a few RDNA2 CUs on the new GloFo 12LP+.
re: 10100F or 10400F -- yeah those are better, but if the OP already bought an AM4 mobo, they might be stuck. Best choice right now if no mobo is yet purchased or it can be returned.
ID: hmyzqhlAre you talking about Monet? Cuz that's Zen3
ID: hmz92lxThis is what they are doing with Monet (4C Zen3+RDNA2) on GloFo.
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Unlikely. Zen2 isn't in mass production anymore (if at all), and 3300x is a byproduct of defective zen2 dies (which are not common to begin with).
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At this point just get an used 3600 if you’re trying to save a few bucks
ID: hmyjkslAnd nib CPUs are probably as expensive as 5600g... And at that point is mostly a tossup unless pcie 4.0 is a must
ID: hmympd0Even that is in short supply as of recently
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I doubt it's coming back. They were probably all salvaged dies (like the 4700S and upcoming Renoir-X) and it was a "while supplies last" kinda thing.
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Cries in ryzen 3100 @ 4.2. The one I’ve got won’t go past this even powered by mobile nuclear reactor. 5300x/6300x would be great for 1080p
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Do I have no choice but to cash out for a 5600G or 5600X at double the price of a 3300X?
If you've already ordered the mobo and can't return it, yes. Otherwise if you don't want to pay too much you should look at what Intel already offers or what they might offer in a few months if you can wait (the middle range Alder Lake parts look very promising).
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I managed to get a 3300X a while back for $180, and it's a great CPU. I also recently got a 5600G, and it's not nearly as good as I thought it would be. It can technically beat the 3300X on benchmarks, but it doesn't "feel" faster in real world usage. Importantly, it can't do PCIE 4.0 like the 3300X, so it may be less capable when it comes to GPUs and more. The 5600G isn't bad, but it's not worth more than a 3300X, unless you can't or don't want to use a GPU. The iGPU isn't terrible, but it's not great by any means, and is wasted if you use a discrete GPU.
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You're better with the 11400F tbh
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was it ever in stock to begin with??!
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The best place to get the 3300X was South Korea through eBay. Prices and shipping were generally pretty good too with certain vendors.
Not sure if that's the case anymore though.
I was surprised with how warm it got for a 4/8 processor though. I'd imagine it's a combination of core saturated to one ccx and aggressive PBO so it's not a bad thing to factor in something more robust than the heatsink it comes with.
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Ryzen 3 3100?
ID: hmzg63mDunno if it's different elsewhere, but here in Europe the 3100 has become rare and overpriced, regularly selling for more than 200€.
In past you could grab one for 100 euro - 150 euro by chance.however, you can’t oc it past 4,2 all cores no matter.
引用元:https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/r788yx/will_the_ryzen_3_3300x_ever_be_in_stock_again/
I second the i3-10100F. I know it's Intel but it's a great deal right now. I think one was like $95 on newegg recently. And a humongous upgrade path on that socket for later on.