- Final Fantasy XV Director Hajime Tabata Will Reveal His New JRPG in 2022
Poor guy had to inherit an incoherent mess of FFXV, face pressure from square enix executives to push it out within the deadline, and make sure it lived up to expectations as well as remain a final Fantasy game. It was essentially a death sentence for management. And you know what? He tried and got a decent game pushed out.
After working in industry I can say that having a shitty infrastructure is the core of failure, and that starts from day 1. You can hate the game but it’s not the man’s fault it blowsID: hqe4h4j
There's no question that the story is a mess & huge waste of potential. But the combat & camaraderie amongst Noctis, Gladiolus, Prompto & Ignis made the game enjoyable. Even with all the story problems & the annoyance of the lore being splittered onto various media platforms, I still have it up in my Top 3 FF games, behind VII & IX(by a huge margin, of course).ID: hqemwtk
This is some high praise. Being that 9 and 7 are my all time faves - you’ve made me wanna check it out!ID: hqerx79
I agree with you lol… I really enjoyed the game but the story felt horribly butchered.ID: hqeyjvw
You’ve clearly never played VI or IV if you think the next best in the series is XV.ID: hqeu2wt
That game was awesome, but it’s one of the clearest examples I can think of where you were playing and knew a bunch of content was missing.ID: hqe8jl3
Tabata gets shit done.
But his games are basically never that good, either.ID: hqf0hj5
They kinda shot themselves in the foot. They gave nomura reign who is gonna make some batshit crazy story and idea, told him to tone it down and just finish it, moved him to FFVIIR, left whatever fever dream he had to tabata and told him to finish. Think it’s the worst of both worlds. I would’ve loved to see FFXIII versus and Nomuras vision and I woulda loved to see Tabatas full vision. I guess we might get Versus XIII in Kingdom Hearts now though with whatever Verum Rex is.
But mostly I’m sad we’ll never see FF Type-1. Type-0 was fucking awesome. Such a cool game. Awesome gameplay with so many unique and fun to play characters that had a lot of gameplay growth as well.ID: hqfcpsk
The game didn't blow, the shitty thing was just the DLC content abruptly ending leaving some parts of the overarching story untold. I have no idea how much time he spent on it, but if he jumped onboard to begin with I'd prefer he finish what he started. They put out multiple story DLCs before he quit and so there were many instances for him to bow out. Not putting outright blame on him since idk what happens behind the scenes, maybe his contract only let him quit right at that moment and so he didn't want to renew, idk. However, he's been with Square since before 2004, you can't tell me that he was surprised by the infrastructure of Square after so long of being with them. KH itself has had tumultuous development, it's a common theme with Square and big project with high expectations. Though I'd like to think they're learning from their mistakes when veterans like Tabata start leaving.
He directed FF Crisis Core so that'll automatically make me interested in his future projects.
The duality of man.ID: hqf3b7y
Thankfully my score was hidden and no one can see my karma plummeting
Looking forward to it, I enjoyed FF XVID: hqf3ou5
It had good moments. I won't call it perfect that's for sure but I put 100 hours into it. I liked the combat, the constant weapon swapping.ID: hqf7i64
The combat was what ruined it for me. Not enough control so it didn't feel like there was a real strategy. I made it through half the game and then quit.
Oh nice, i quite liked XV so this might be goodID: hqevg8a
The XV team Us doing Forspoken, actuallyID: hqfiwqk
That game looked really impressive until the characters started talking. The poorly written dialogue has me very worried.
Is that a threat?
Man people are some drama queens when it comes to XV. Games no where as bad as people put it.ID: hqf1e8k
100% agree if it was as bad as people say I wouldnt have put over 500 hours into it.
Was it the best game ever? Not really. Was it a great game that I still enjoy every minute I play? Abso-fucking-lutely
man if ur gonna criticize Tabata at least go look at his actual works
imagine blaming him for the dumpster fire that SQEX and Nomura left him
not a single person at SQEX not named Yoshi-P that couldve done much more with that messID: hqf0374
Why do people always put it on Nomura when it's SQEX that had Nomura in between 4 projects (KH3, FF7R, FF13V and Dissidia) across 2 studio locations on the other side of Japan. Although I find Yoshi-P to have done a great job on FF14 (so far that's the only game the west known of his great work) it's weird to idolize as a game saving saint.ID: hqfoil7
So Kingdom Hearts is my favorite video game series of all time, but even despite that I have to admit Nomura isn’t the best storyteller. We have examples of his work where he’s gotten free reign and wasn’t directing multiple projects at once and well…it’s pretty hit or miss. He’s great at coming with cool concepts and ideas to build a story around, but in terms of actually executing the story in a cohesive way? He definitely struggles with that at times.
Still, I do agree the blame lands way more on Square Enix than Nomura but I can absolutely see how Tabata would struggle to finish the jumbled mess of a 6 year old Nomura directed project in a satisfying way. That’s asking a lot for anybody, even if unintentional.ID: hqfjgaz
Nomura's issues go beyond just being stretched thin. His projects often bloat, he makes key decisions late in the development cycle, and the stories he tells always end up "complicated" just to be complicated. I think KH is the perfect example of what happens when he's given free reign. A game series broken up across several platforms and styles, with incoherent stories that require a lore guide to keep track of, and delays on end. It's not all his fault though, as you said, he gets stretched thin. The company should recognize that and correct, and they should also not have him as a producer, he's fine as a director with a strong producer to keep him in check.ID: hqf2gjf
Im glad for what he did in the past, and I dont blame him for the trainwreck, but some of the reasons XV ARE his fault. Like whoever allowed him toand create the most brainless RPG of all time.
If hes gonna keep that mentality and make one-button no-strategy combat games from now on, I'd rather he stays away.
Loved XV and no matter what anyone says Tabata was put into a shitstorm, and it came out pretty damn clean.
The suits at Square Enix really did a number on the game.
Feel pretty bad for this guy, he had to drag a battered, exhausted FF15 game and team across the finish line after the absolute hell of development it had, hopefully this new game will be something great.
I was actually really hyped for Versus 13 (FFXV) until he took over. Not a huge fan of the final product. But here's hoping hope his next is better. The project was dropped on him from nowhere and pulled under Nomura so SE made a mess of it. I wonder what he's capable of without their shitty management.ID: hqefvb7
He made Crisis Core, the guy is fine.
He is probably the reason why XV got finished at all and ended up being a good game for me (as much of a mess the game is, I know).ID: hqelv7l
He was also responsible for the 3rd birthday. So it's fine to taper expectations
In this thread, bunch of people blaming him for FFXV not understanding he was the one who saved the game from Nomura who couldn't get shit done in 10 years.
Tabata made Crisis Core, he is fine. I'm excited to see what he is doing, with Crisis Core, Type 0 and the second part of FFXV, he seems to enjoy darker tone.ID: hqez7hp
I'm not Nomura's biggest fan. I think that he writes extremely overcomplicated stories, isn't great with exposition, and loves belts too much.
But I really think that the blame should be on SE Executives. They put too much on his plate, and moved this game around WAY too much. It's the same company who shipped FF14 wayy too early and got punished for it.
FF15 wasn't perfect, but my biggest complaint is that we never really got the Versus 13 that was teased in 2006. The company decided they would rather put out 3 FF13's, despite the original being a very divisive game, kept restructuring teams, gave him too many projects, and when they finally had a decent product in 15, they shoe-horned in way too many side stories and DLC to finish the game. Simply put, the game needed more time, and they shipped it too early due to poor management of it.
Just my 2cID: hqf16hw
For what it's worth, I really liked XV. It's a deeply flawed game but I ended up really liking a lot.
I know people find the separation in 2 part jarring, personally I liked both.
After shit gets real in Altissia, I really liked the darter turn.ID: hqen3td
Ah and the Nomura bashing continues. The guy was trying to work on Kingdom Hearts, XIII, and Dissidia all at the same time and Square Enix refused to give the guy a break. He clearly had a lot of passion for Versus XIII and still does (as shown in KH3 Re:Mind).
Square then ripped the project from him because of the poor reception of XIII and they wanted to wipe their hands clean and work on XV instead, giving it over to Tabata instead because Nomura wanted to finish the numerous other projects given to him first.
Neither Tabata nor Nomura are to blame for the clusterfuck that was Versus XIII and XV's development. Square's pisspoor management and overworking their developers is the main cause of it all.ID: hqeqkpc
Regardless of who's fault it really was, you can't deny Tabata is getting blamed constantly, included in this thread, for the state of FFXV.
The reality is Nomura started working on the game in 2006 and when he was replaced in 2012, 6 years later the game was in o state to be released, far from it because it took another 4 years for Tabata to launch the game.
I love Nomura defenders who always give tales of Nomura being the lone knight fighting the evil Square Enix.
He is an employee and a successful director. If he accepted to direct a game he didn't have time to work on, the fault fall as much on him for accepted as Square to ask him to do it.
KH series has always had trouble development, taking way too long for each big titles.
I like the series, but we need to be realistic here.
He clearly had a lot of passion for Versus XIII and still does (as shown in KH3 Re:Mind).
He loves FF so much he removed everything related to FF in KH3 .ID: hqem0kz
Nomura couldn’t get shit done bc square split his kh2 dev team up and fucked with who ever was left while “internally restructuring” so it’s not his fault either.
I LOVE XV i don't care what anybody said, the backstreet boys is on eof the best thing in ff they feel like real people. Unlike any other rpg, still the later part of the game cant hold up the awesomeness of the early part.
Can't wait for his next project
I mean, I'm one of those that "hates" the game as a Final Fantasy, but It wasn't his fault at least not 100% the project was a mess way before. It could be an interesting new game so let's wait and see.
ff15 sucked ass, i have no hopes for his new game.
Expectations are about as low as humanly possible
cant wait to play on PS6.
I believe in Tabata, even though FFXV was pretty bad IMO.
15 was shit and fast paced action isn’t true JRPG not sorry
Um ok, expectations are to be kept low.
I hope now its a complete game though.ID: hqe0n1d
As iffy as that second half of the game was, I feel like the ending was still amazing
Please stay awayyyyy
Unless we can find the crystal and banish him back to the Ethereal Chainrealm.
I hope he learned...
Is this an announcement for an announcement? They might as well announce the release date and push it back in the same statement too then
The true tensei
is it gonna be final fantasy 16 random words picked from english dictionary? lmao
I wonder if Tabata's next game will be a PS exclusive. This will follow SIE's pattern of partnering with renowned creators to cover their lineup weaknesses.
They can't honestly bet on a better directo(besides maybe Media.Vision) if they want their own JRPG franchise.