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Does Stadia actually have any original games on it? Or is it just all cross platform?
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The sad thing is that as a product and from a functional standpoint. The thing dragging it down is business model and association with Google.
ID: gqnufkqID: gqnw1b4Yep, if they went the Nvidia route and actually told publishers to fuck off when they demanded they not let their games be playable on it, I think people would like it more
(that is, you can play games you already own on it, because they're essentially renting you cloud hardware to run things on it)
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I actually like it. I was surprised at the frame rate and video quality it could put out. Made my normal laptop feel like a god
ID: gqntt1eI don't care about performance if I don't OWN the THING. I'm not happy with paying for a SERVICE, especially for something like a single player game.
ID: gqnvklzWhich is why GeForce now is the better product. Not shilling here as I haven't used either service but GeForce now lets you stream stuff that you own as well, so long as it is compatible. Pretty tough to get the hardcore crowd when GeForce Now exists and the casual crowd isn't on board enough with the idea yet. Like Google Glass, this came out too early and wasn't thought out enough.
ID: gqnxdtbHow do you feel about services like Disney+, Netflix, HBO, etc.?
ID: gqo2btkWhat's wrong with single player's ?
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I wanted it to succeed but like every other great google product I’m sure it will be canned.
ID: gqncz6kIt’s something I would support as part of Steam or another service where I have a large library of games.
Having to purchase games I never get to download seemed wrong to me.
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They hired people for an in-house studio a year ago. They've since scrapped that team. Google doesn't have the patience.
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you're*
if the sentence reads as "and you are telling me...", then use "you're"
ID: gqncbp4They also spelled Chromecast incorrectly. Low effort meme all around.
ID: gqn5wwwand here is the Grammar Nazi
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Anyone remember the Google glasses?
ID: gqnnvwqThe what now?
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I legitimately laughed when they introduced stadia, it failing is a shock to no one.
ID: gqn177eIt's not bad for those that own a Chromecast, low spec laptop/PC or the $100 Chromecast + controller bundle (and have decent internet).
If all you want to do is to occasionally play "hyped game everyone is talking about", then it offers a low entry fee to playing those newer games.
The GPUs stadia started with are roughly equivalent to Vega 56s.
Essentially you're renting the gaming pc/console from Google. The fact it now works with Android phones and tablets is pretty nice.
The $10 a month sub comes with free games (like xbox live) and you can alternatively subscribe to Ubisofts monthly plan. Apparently once you claim your game, it will still be there if you let your membership lapse.
Found a list of prior and current games here:
I wouldn't use it myself, but I can see how it would be appealing to others.
Edit: I've been following Stadia because of two things:
All their games have to use Vulkan
The games themselves are ported to Linux as Stadia runs Debian Linux.
Those two things should help lower the barrier of entry for getting a Vulkan version on Windows and also potentially running the game on Linux.
ID: gqnbyuhThe $10 a month sub comes with free games (like xbox live) and you can alternatively subscribe to Ubisofts monthly plan. Apparently once you claim your game, it will still be there if you let your membership lapse.
Two things to note here:
The Pro subscription is optional. Ubisoft+ as well. You can have both, you can have one, you can have none.
Once you claim your game, you will keep it but can only play it when subscribed. If a game is rotated out, it's not rotated out for you if you keep paying. If you cancel subscription, you lose access to claimed games, but you get them all back if you resubscribe (even those no longer claimable), along with the progress.
Any games you buy are yours to play at any time, subscribtion or not.
ID: gqn2u69They're now allowed monthly sub instead of buying full games? I thought the reason why it failed was you have to re-bought the game you already owned instead of streaming it through your Steam or GOG
ID: gqnnrfdThat's a very niche market
ID: gqn20awThe main issue is that anyone with a decent internet capable of streaming games is likely to have a console/decent PC, which kinda makes the value prop of being able to play with great perf without the hardware a moot point. Their competition offers the exact same subscription services at similar price points but have much better game libraries and are more well established.
In all honesty, I have no idea which nitwit at google thought this was a good idea.
ID: gqn29euHonestly, someone brought it up to me the other day and I though, "How come I haven't heard about them shutting that down yet?".... I'm genuinely surprised it's lasted this long.
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I guess a game service built on streaming didn't work when everyone was stuck at home
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Internet is just not fast enough for the concept.
ID: gqn0224The actual tech works just fine. This statement is simply incorrect. Stadia is failing because of poor business decisions and a poor selection of games. The internet is plenty fast enough
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ID: gqn8es3I've worked on it. It works fine. It's just that Google can't seem to follow through for shit.
ID: gqmyxf9Streaming games works great. That wasn't the issue. The issue was that it defeated itself by offering a PC gaming experience with no mods, a lackluster offering of games, premium prices on those few games where nobody could shop around for a better deal, and charging monthly even for games you already owned. And the risk that once you've got a game on stadia (which you had to buy even I you already owned it elsewhere) you still run the risk of losing it if they decide not to carry it anymore.
The only upshots to stadia had over other services such as Shadow was not having to install the games, but the games install so fast on shadow (gigabit connected as they are) that it's a moot point. And storage which is never a concern on stadia, but rarely is that one on shadow. These upshots pale in comparison to actually just streaming a pc.
Google shot itself in the foot and theyve no one to blame but themselves.
ID: gqncpw9charging monthly even for games you already owned
That's incorrect. If you bought the game, you don't have to subscribe to Pro. It's an optional subscription.
The only upshots to stadia had over other services such as Shadow was not having to install the games
For me, it's the ability to play games on TV without an expensive, humming, power-hungry box next to it.
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ID: gqn1mrfGame streaming works great. I stream friggin skyrim vr from shadow with tons of mods and it works flawlessly.
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They probably have their reasons. I am sure Google has many smart employees who thought about this carefully.
ID: gqnx6aawho thought about this carefully.
You're wrong about that.
Google employees are like high school kids.
They float from project to project based upon what is considered "cool" (i.e. can help their careers). Everything there is a pump-and-dump strategy.
GoogleAds makes so much money that any mis-management of their other project sis quickly forgiven.
ID: gqnx8wbBut, they aren't high-school kids.
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If James Garner was in charge
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Streaming games is the solution to datamining. When the game code runs on your PC, some "games journalist" will spoil every little detail and secret the devs hide just for clicks.
A game where code only runs on servers that feed players video means devs can finally go back to creating real secrets.
That future will be a long time coming because companies are only developing this technology in order to sell you games as a subscription.
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Steve sure, but which Bill is he talking about, that built computers?
ID: gqnbsycJobs didnt build Macs, it's Wozniak, Job was a vision/marketing/sale guy, which I can say he's the best history has ever seen.
Gates also didn't build PC, he programmed Windows for it. Gates also had big dick energy and crazy business sense, just imagine calling up IBM offering an OS when you are still teenager.
Both Jobs and Gates are tech genius in their own right. But neither of them actually put hardwares together. It's Grove, Moore and Noyce of Intel who laid the foundation.
ID: gqnckrgOh, I am terribly sorry for saying such a misleading thing. Can you please refresh my memory and tell me the first name of this Mr. Wozniak that you are talking about?
ID: gqnawehGates
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wait... you think these exec's actually get punished for their fuck-ups? all that's going to happen is that they will get a huge bonus for having worked on the project, and then they will be assigned as executive to the next big project they can fuck up.
ID: gqnvkyeI am not sure if you are speaking from experience? But I work at a large corporate and execs 100% face consequences for fuck ups. I am not sure where you got this notion from? Maybe it's different where are you from.
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Nothing worth writing home about. They had Crayta, but moved on to other platforms now. However I really like the controller. It's my controller of choice for PC gaming now.
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Here I am with my Ouya....
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I wanted to buy and use it (as someone who is quite a casual gamer these days, it sounded like the perfect setup for me), but they never released it in Australia.
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Feels that way for most google products. Especially the association part.