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Hey guys, I'm very close to completing my build, need a motherboard and cpu.
I will be pairing it with a 6700XT. I have a hard time making my mind between getting the 11400f or the 5600x. The i5 11400f I can buy it for $190 in my country, it is close/equal to US msrp.
For the 5600x unfortunately, I could get it for $380 (in stock) from a local retailer, or wait a bit and buy it from the US and ship it here with import duties and tax it would end up being around $350 - I had a hard time actually finding it in stock from the US though, so I could be waiting a while... Buying from a local shop would still be my best bet, as I would get 1 year warranty, for a $30 difference.
Now regarding the choice, budget wise, I have the money to spend on the 5600x. But I would still rather have a better deal at the end of the day and save the money, although that money will not be used to improve my build, as I already bought all the parts for my build excluding cpu and mobo.
The difference in price is a bit high, as you can see. I will be playing on a 1440p144hz monitor exclusively. I (nowadays, rarely) play the occasional competitive game like cs/valorant/dota, but these titles are obviously not my main focus for my purchasing decision, although these games apparently have seen a noticeable improvement from benchmarks with the 5600x (example, I play csgo at 1080p, as thats what I'm used to) but for most if not all of my games I would be playing at 1440p.
I have found a couple of benchmarks on youtube with the 5600x and 11400f tested in different benchmarks originating from different yt channels and the results differed strangely. For instance, from one video from a less reputable uploader, he benchmarked both cpus with the 3070, most results indicated similar, or even better performance for the 11400f which is quite strange. I am not sure whether I should take these results for granted. Gamer Nexus, a reputable youtuber had some more logical/expected results with the 5600x edging quite significantly at 1080p, but with smaller gains at 1440p over the 11400f. Unfortunately he did very few 1440p benchmarks which was what I was interested in.
Now I have seen the hardware unboxed video with the ryzen 3600, an older cpu comparable to the 10400f benchmarked with the 5600x, 5800x, 5900x etc
The results indicated that there was a small difference at 1440p, but that the difference was not really significant enough to warrant an upgrade. But for me since im building from scratch...
Another thing I would like to consider is that I would like to keep the cpu for a while, hopefully 3-5 years or so. Additionally, down the line, I will probably update my gpu in the next cycle or the cycle after this one. It will depend on the price and availability of course...
So with that in mind perhaps the 5600x would be a better choice for a bit of future proofing? I have no clue if the 11400f will be sufficient for the upcoming cards, and upcoming games, obviously time will tell and this is not something we can predict, but maybe its worth thinking about.
Lastly, I plan on emulating games on PC for the switch and ps3, unfortunately I couldnt find any actual data or actual comparison between these cpus..It is however known that emulation benefits quite a lot from a better cpu.
EDIT: So far ive recieved some great replies, I am leaning to buy the intel i5 11400f, but I could also get the intel i7 10700f for $290, I will try and find it for cheaper than that.
Im not sure if it would be worth the extra investment over the i5 11400f/price diff with 5600x though. As for the 11th gen option in lieu of the 10th gen i7, The i7 11700f is unfortunately about the same price as the 5600x in my country, ($384). I'll think about it some more before buying, I'm not in an exact rush.
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Look how the tables have turned. AMD is now like the premium cpu brand and Intel is the budget cpu brand.
ID: gtp24fgID: gtpaoz6A couple of high end thinkpad models now come with AMD as default this year, if you want intel you have to get the "i" version
ID: gtqnmn1It was inevitable. I love AMD but corporations will always be corporations. They were the underdog and now they're the top dog. Competition is good for everyone 🙂
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No money -> 11400f
TOO MUCH MONEY-> 5600x
ID: gtomdcjYes
ID: gtpberbToo much money - 5900x. 5600x and 5800x are overpriced for what they are
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For purely gaming, i'd go with the 11400f, especially at 1440p perfomance between it and the 5600x would be close enough to not be noticeable.
ID: gtoolf8Especially considering the price difference here. The 5600X just doesn't make sense.
ID: gtoq141For sure, the only use case i can think of that might lean towards the 5600x is if he’s gonna be streaming(6700xt doesnt have an encoder and the 5600x multithreaded perf can help here) or if he’s doing some workstations tasks aside from gaming. Other than that 11400f/b560/3200mhz ram is a great setup.
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Right now the 11400F is the budget king. The rest of the Intel lineup is more questionable but this one is right now the king. It uses DDR4-3200 by default and you don't even need to worry about OC because it won't let you do it.
ID: gtoxfi5In the UK the 11600kf is £80 less than the 5600x, that's why I told my friend to go for it over the 5600x, although with hindsight he should have got an 11400f really. Intel's i3/i5 are really killing it right now, but AMD is winning the high end.
ID: gtp5bwcThe only tier at which AMD is winning is the 5900X, which hasn't been in stock since it launched.
At this point, everything under that is matched by Intel, for less money.
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If you have the budget for a 5600x, you might consider the 10700k for $309 on newegg.
ID: gtobvgzThen think about really good cooling, the 10700 non-K needs more than 200 watts under full load at boost clock. Pure Rock 2 is definitely not enough, it took less than 10 seconds to reach 90° with that cooler and prime95
ID: gtou166Intel chips 9gen and above at stock are quite easy to cool, and the non-k is never an issue. They operate at around 60C (rendering) with a 25€ cooler. Its just when you fully unlock the power limit, going outside of intels power guide line they get hot, especially on avx workloads since they don't downclock.
The relation between power consumption and temperature isn't the same for all chip architectures. For example the 5600 under full load is much more difficult to cool than an 10700 while the R5 being more power efficient
ID: gtok4uf[Serious] But does a 10700K even reach full load under gaming? Especially above 1080?
ID: gtocwmuWell cooled it’s great. Brother has it with a 240mm AIO and it barely hits high 60’s in back to back R20 runs.
For air you’d need at least...unoverclocked maybe a ShadowRock 3? Might be able to skate by with a push pull 212 style but it’s going to be toasty,
ID: gtoizmfFwiw I match a stock 10700k with my 10700 under extended loads, 140w power limit, slight undervolt and a tiny AXP90 copper cooler but yes it’s a lot hotter than my 3700x
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You could consider the 3600 so that you are on the AM4 platform, get one of the good B550 boards and have the option for something faster. The 5600X always was too expensive and now it makes no sense any more. Rocket Lake might be a complete dumpster fire, but the 11400F is decently priced and available. The platform is dead though and I am not exactly impressed by a lot of LGA1200 boards.
I would start pairing CPU + motherboard options with the 11400F and 3600 and look at what you need and like best. You are on 1440P, so the CPU difference is not that huge. Finally the wildcard might be the 3700X if you can find it for a reasonable price.
ID: gtoq0c2The 11400f is significantly faster then the 3600. Like significantly faster, even at 1440p.
And that's still GNs numbers who strictly enforces intel power limits(valid methodology btw), but most out of the box motherboards don't even do this.
The 11400f was already the lower performance option he asked for, I wouldn't suggest an even worse one.
ID: gtonx80They both have dead platforms tbh. AM4 is at its end as well.
ID: gtooiphAll computers are dead, long live palm pilot.
ID: gtorwmfRoadmap leaks keep mentioning Warhol on AM4. I would not be so sure about that. AM4 might get one more generation of Ryzen.
ID: gtokt4kThe 3700X is the best option if you don't need 120+ fps in every game and/or you're not using a 6900 or 3090. This chip runs cool with an unmatched power efficiency with regard to 8-core CPUs. Also, in productivity tasks it takes on intel 9900K and 10700K beating them in a lot of apps. It's also cheap if you look around. My brother currently has a 10700K PC and it's a lot hotter and goes up to 200W while gaming when the 3700X in my secondary build hoovers at 50-75W while gaming (depending on number of threads used) and never hits 60ºC (Dark Rock pro 4). At 1440p using a 3060 Ti the difference is typically a few frames.
ID: gtoli29Why not 3600 then? Even cheaper with plenty of performance still.
ID: gtp28miNO, i would never recommend people buying 3600 at 2021.
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How about you get an 8-core processor less money than the AMD 5600X ? Something like the 10700KF should last you years more than the 6-core ones and people tend to keep processors for a long time.
The difference in performance of any of them at 1440p gaming would basically be within margin of error so make sure if you get a new processor today that it has 8-cores. Intel 10700KF should be no more than say $320-330. The 10700F is only around $280 and would also give you 8-cores 16 threads.
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Choosing between i5 11400f or 5600x?
Take 11400F. There is no point of paying extra for 5600X when you'll not get any meaningful overhead in 1440p. You're paying extra 80% for CPU without getting even 40% more performance. If motherboard prices are comparable
Now regarding the choice, budget wise, I have the money to spend on the 5600x.
You have budget, yes. It's just that 5600X does not offer much for that extra money. If you have money then buy 5800X instead. At least you'll get two extra cores for the future.
The difference in price is a bit high, as you can see. I will be playing on a 1440p144hz monitor exclusively. I (nowadays, rarely) play the occasional competitive game like cs/valorant/dota, but these titles are obviously not my main focus for my purchasing decision, although these games apparently have seen a noticeable improvement from benchmarks with the 5600x (example, I play csgo at 1080p, as thats what I'm used to) but for most if not all of my games I would be playing at 1440p.
Again. 11400F. These games are not CPU-bound. At 1440p you'll be limited by your GPU in most cases. And difference in RTS or games with a lot of NPCs - thus heavy computing titles, is minimal at best.
Gamer Nexus, a reputable youtuber had some more logical/expected results with the 5600x edging quite significantly at 1080p, but with smaller gains at 1440p over the 11400f. Unfortunately he did very few 1440p benchmarks which was what I was interested in.
I think you're over-interpreting the results. It's not significantly. It's barely. 10% at best. Which does not make much difference.
The only game in GN's review that showed more than 10% was F1. But they clearly stated that they just like that benchmark and they would not consider it too much. Especially since you cannot go over 144FPS. 300 FPS or 400FPS is whatever at this point. Also the game is GPU bound. Don't
Another thing I would like to consider is that I would like to keep the cpu for a while, hopefully 3-5 years or so. Additionally, down the line, I will probably update my gpu in the next cycle or the cycle after this one. It will depend on the price and availability of course...
So with that in mind perhaps the 5600x would be a better choice for perhaps a bit of future proofing?
Nope. They have the same amount of cores / threads and comparable single- / multi-core performance. Also, You'll not future-proof with any 6c/12t.
I have no clue if the 11400f will be sufficient for the upcoming cards, and upcoming games, obviously time will tell and this is not something we can predict, but maybe its worth thinking about.
If 11400F will become "obsolete", then 5600X will also become one.
Lastly, I plan on emulating games on PC for the switch and ps3, unfortunately I couldnt find any actual data or actual comparison between these cpus..It is however known that emulation benefits quite a lot from a better cpu.
If you're lucky you're getting 10% more performance. For real-life this means that 11400F will deliver 50 FPS in emulated game and 5600X will deliver 55FPS. You'll not see any major differences if you're already not getting triple digit performance with 11400F.
ID: gto2nw2I agree with this point however CSGO is CPU bound even at 8k and also people play it low settings. The 5600x destroys Intel in CSGO due to the high cache however that amount it wins by isn't worth the 100 bucks extra.
ID: gtobkxjThing is, by that point csgo (on comp settings) is over 300 fps. I know the benefits of increased fps (even over the monitors refresh), but it is a thing of diminishing returns. OP stated that they're on a 144hz display, so besides not being able to see all 300+ frames, is OP really going to be at pro csgo level of ability to even gain a noticeable uptick in their flickshot perf?
ID: gtokvao95% of the people dont need that much fps for csgo. If you dont play highly competitive 144hz/fps is more than enought. And then you are looking at almost every processor from the last 5 years+. And even then the network connection is the bottleneck in your responsivenes.
So if you dont happen to have a 240hz+ display and you are not playing semi professional dont bother buying a processor for just cs go or any competitive game whats so ever. It wont make you magically better.
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For that price? no contest. go 11400f, or maybe even 11600k if you plan on oc ing in the future? (dont know how much it costs though)
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10600k(f) is a great deal right now
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I upgraded recently from intel 4770k to 5600x (got it for 250 on Amazon with a Gift card). I noticed I can easily capture my gameplay with OBS without going down with the quality. Multitasking is really a breeze, running many applications for productivity and have a game open like Elite Dangerous is just awesome.
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This is insane. AMD CPUs went from trash to great value good CPUs to now massively overpriced great CPUs.
Not a single 5000 series CPU from AMD is worth buying over intel. Anyone saying otherwise has just become the old Intel homers.
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Reading the comments i kinda feel some buyer's remorse. I bought the 5600X with a MSI B550 Gaming Plus Motherboard and an RTX 3070. but it was also before the 11th gen launch
ID: gtoj7bj5600x is a beast. You should be happy you got your hands on it.
ID: gtocw5zYou shouldn't. Even if a kinda better deal comes along (with tradeoffs), you're still getting a hell of a CPU. If the only thing you can say is that it's slightly overpriced, you didn't make a bad choice.
ID: gtomstoI wouldn't, you have a great CPU!
ID: gtowkw4I wouldn’t. The most a person can upgrade to is a terrible 11900k. There will be zen 3 plus at the end of the year.
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11400f is the budget king. 5600x isn't great value for money. Maybe something to keep in mind is upgradeability.
When you get an LGA 1200 socket, the only upgrades you can make are the questionable higher 11x (or 10x) series.
Most of the times intel gets a new socket after 2 series, but I don't know their timeline for LGA 1200.
With AM4 you can always upgrade or downgrade to 4xxx or lower. Keep in mind this year Zen 4 will launch with the new AM5 socket.
My advice would be, go with the 11400f with a cheap mobo. And if you want to upgrade later on go with zen4 (if the reviews are good) on the AM5 socket. That way you are good to go for the next years to come. AM5 will be supported for at least 4 years, as did they support AM4 that long.
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11600KF would also be a good pairing and should be slightly less than the 5600X, at least it is in my region. 10700K or KF is also a good choice. A last generation Ryzen 7 should be a little less than the 5600X in your case and would also give great results
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I took 11600Kf for 225€ , i think Its great perf/price ratio.. Ik amd has better wattage. But for this price i have good cpu. And still end of the year or next year ll be ddr5 pci5 platforms. So putting lot of money to dead end platform is useless imo. I want this for 2-3 year and for future 4K gaming When gpu ll be in Stock and i think it ll be fine for it. What u think? Btw i want zen4/5 or ADL/Raptor for next pc in 2+ years so i think this will be fine.
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11400f easily, at those price points it's not even a contest.
I spent years recommending people to not spend hundreds of dollars more for an Intel CPU that is only 10% faster at best than the Ryzen equivalent and only when you're CPU bound, which means 1080p with a high end GPU, so most people are going to get the same performance with either CPU. Now that the roles have reversed, it would be very hypocritical of me to not recommend the 11400f when it's so overwhelmingly better value.
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definitely 11400f its literally less than half the price
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get the 11400f and a better gpu
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Intel 11400F for price and performance
Ryzen 3700x (upgrade later for 12 or 16 cores)
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I would still have a look to 10400/10600 or even a 10850K as they are still providing great value compared to 11th series and will probably be discounted along with Z490 motherboards.
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11400f+b560 motherboard with 3200 mhz ram, thankfully at last b560 motherboards support memory overclocking and 11400f has 3200 mhz memory spec. You will see no difference in perfomance, especially at 1440p, just buy a decent b560 motherboard with vrm heatsink.
I will 100% be more than enough for 3-5 years, no need to pay more.
引用元:https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/mlx54y/choosing_between_i5_11400f_or_5600x/
for enthusiasts, AMD has to keep this up for a while for it to continue taking hold among prebuilts and laptops