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So, as I am sure most of you are already well aware, yesterday there appeared to have been preparation for AMD to sell some stock of their products through the amd direct store, but no products ever went into stock. First a short timeline of events:
All relevant timestamps will be in CEST(Central European Summer Time)(UTC+02:00)
For most of the afternoon the AMD Ryzen 9 3900x was "available", with the requirement to pass a reCaptcha before adding anything to your Cart. This reCaptcha failed 4/5 times, because of a 503 backend error.(at least to my knowledge)
At around 16:30 the Digital River backend slowly started listing the products which were subject to be sold. This list included:
AMD Radeon RX 6700XTAMD Radeon RX 6800
AMD Radeon RX 6900XT
AMD Radeon RX 6800XT midnight black edition
AMD Ryzen 7 5800x
AMD Ryzen 9 5950x
Not Included were:
AMD Radeon RX 6800XT(Normal Version)AMD Ryzen 5 5600x
AMD Ryzen 9 5900x
The nothing happened until around 19:21 when captchas started appearing again, but still not properly authenticating, likely due to an insufficient backend. This is where I believe they planned to release the stock, but the backend was not properly configured so it didn't happen. Around 20-30 minutes after the captchas started to appear they were no longer available. This then persisted throughout the entire night with virtually no indicators or updates on anything.
Now its the morning, I slept a grand total of 5 hours and 30 minutes and am trying to figure out what in the name of the holy flying spaghetti monster happened here.
My personal theory is that the sale was supposed to happen at 19:21 but they had issues with the backend so they stopped the sale. The question now is, will they release the stock today, later this week, or keep it stored for a larger drop next week.
Overall my issue with the current situation is not even the fact that there were issues with the backend. I know how difficult it can be to operate a good backend. But rather my issue is with the complete and utter lack of communication on these sales. If the best source of information on the release of a product can be found through a variety of discord servers, unintended backend API requests and an obscure german hardware forum's best attempt at getting any information out of AMD then there is a very clear lack of official communication.
Anyway, thank you for reading an accurate representation of my rapidly dwindling sanity.
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Just FYI, this was only the behavior of your region.
In the USA, AMD.com site only shuffled the listing where all the GPUs are on top, nothing became available to add to cart, and it remains that way to the time of this writing going back to around 12:30pm yesterday 4/15 Thursday, Eastern Standard Time.
ID: gupnud1ID: guqd9ydThe add to cart in the US was for the 3900x. There is a javascript injection that enables the Add to Cart on the AMD site, but pressing it does nothing.
ID: gupetyuso basically nothing happened there either.
ID: gurvo9fI got a 6900XT today. So they were definitely available.
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Just so people know, memory Express (in Canada) lists lots of ryzen 5xxx CPUs.
ID: gupp267Yes, apart from 5900X they seem to be easily available in Europe as well. I guess those who wanted one already have it and you cannot mine Ethereum with CPU.
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I'm holding out hope that AMD finally dropped Digital River and is looking into a new Web service to sell their products. One that actually makes sure you're not a bot.
One can dream.
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Maybe just not buy CPU or GPU now. Just wait until stuff is in stock again and prices at msrp.
ID: guphhxxso, in a year 😀
ID: gupkk2cBold of you to assume it's only going to take a year 😉
ID: gupgi76News for u, sadly this won't happen anytime soon
ID: gupt9ylI know this is an AMD subreddit, but there is another chip manufacturer who offers mid-range products at compelling prices (even more so if you live by a microcenter).
ID: gupwqylWhich is why I think Lisa will prioritise such production for cpuS - & apuS too.
DGPUs are harder.
Strategically, amd's main game is not to lose adherents to intel.
ID: gupfsb6lmao are you for real?
ID: gupuwj1they already said supply will be tight till towards end of 2022
ID: gupi7zcI agree with this. I'm still not completely sure why people are so thirsty for new parts. Patience is a virtue.
ID: guppz4uComputer is broke I need something now.
ID: gupin49I don't actually need any new parts urgently, I mainly just follow the thursday drops to see how AMD behaves and have found their lack of communication on the entire situation to be disappointing.
ID: gupj0zfPatience is overrated and the preserve of immortals.
Us "dead far longer than we will be alive" types have scant moments to waste on companies that don't deliver on promises.
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Sounds like a honey pot to see what the bots would do
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The whole "by the time parts are available we will be into the next gen" is the thing that bothers me. Because those next gen parts will likely suffer from the same issues. Unless they take the "increased supply" that we've heard about for 5 months now and use them for current gen. But, they won't. You know that, I know that, they know that. This gen is dead in the water. I'm not holding ny breath on getting a new GPU this year. I really wanted to replace my 1080ti with a 6800XT, but I'm not paying 1k for a fuckin AIB and I'm sure as fuck not paying 2k for one from a scalper. I don't even bother with the AMD store anymore, it's been a shit show since day one and I have better things to do. I do still lightly monitor Best Buy for 3080FE/6800XT drops because they are quite literally the only retailer not completely ass raping their customers. If I get one, I get one. If I don't...fuck it. I'll use my 1080ti until it explodes.
ID: guqf32iThe problem is mining.
It's evident there's increased supply in CPU: apart from a few models most Ryzen are back in stock and scalpers are losing interest in them because why bother when Micro Center or Mind Factory carries it at retail price?
But Nvidia and AMD could increase GPU supply tenfold and it wouldn't matter. Everything would be scooped up by miners: the top models like RTX 3070 by big operations and the rest by Johnny Comelate's. For me the hardest thing to understand is not so much mining itself, but who buys cryptotokens from miners. You cannot do jack with them but pass them on to somebody else: you cannot pay taxes with them, you cannot buy a car with them and you surely cannot buy groceries with them.
ID: gur8kaiyou cannot buy a car with them
I believe in the USA, you can pay for a Tesla with BTC.
ID: guqjih8I will respond at the risk of getting downvoted to oblivion.
Crypto does have a use, it can be a hedge against inflation(btc), it can be a token for running a decentralized super computer(eth), it can be a traceless currency(xmr), it can be used for decentralized finance(dai). NFT's are the new hot thing and there are thousands of other uses. If you don't believe me, check out the block explorer for ETH, this crypto is most definitely being used and purchased.
edit: Also, I want to acknowledge that crypto mining is the cause of the gpu shortage. I'm just saying that crypto is actually being used -> crypto being bought -> crypto being mined -> gpu's in short supply -> crazy gpu prices.
ID: guqonc6For me the hardest thing to understand is not so much mining itself, but who buys cryptotokens from miners. You cannot do jack with them but pass them on to somebody else: you cannot pay taxes with them, you cannot buy a car with them and you surely cannot buy groceries with them.
That describes most financial assets (eg. stocks, bonds, precious metals). The only reason why slips of paper are accepted for taxes/cars/groceries is because the state mandates it.
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How pathetic is this? (AMD I mean, not your post)
I, like you and many others, have spent like 6hrs following a drop that never appened. Also smart-worked from home since I have the possibility so I could better check stock.
Now, I get that the situation is bad AF but: is it really difficult to stick to a fixed time on thursday so peaple don't waste all their time trying to get NOTHING?
Like, we already lost 1.5 years for COVID and now we also waste time because AMD don't give a fuck about their customers.
I really like to think that AMD is working on their website to increase protection againts BOTs and scalpers but they could have done this well before or at least not the day of the drop.
I also think that they choose yesterday so next week we can think that they have more stock for us which would be a completely dick move.
ID: gupixcsI mean, if AMD didn't give a fuck you wouldn't be able to buy from the at all. It is the only place where you can get msrp in the whole industry and only very limited also.
That being said, there were millions of possible solutions already in the sub, and building a new shop with current age technology takes two weeks for a 4 man team. Doesn't have to be pretty the current one isn't either
ID: gupj4ujYep, I think that a big corporate like AMD has well over a team of 4 people to develop a webstore. So it could be done in way less than 2 weeks.
ID: gupnqczFirst of all AMD never set a specific time, you all just noticed a trend because one livestream on YT always noticed stock on Thursdays at a specific time. They have no responsibility to always make that specific time/day.
You have people from all over the world zooming in to get these cards and not even region specific, they’re grabbing cards from version of the site not intended for their customer base.You are not entitled to the chance to buy a GPU during a global chip shortage.
EDIT: Seriously you can damn-near bathe in the entitlement oozing out of the above post.
ID: gupizb7[removed]
ID: gupj7a4Me?
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Praise be to his noodley appendage.
OP appears to be under the assumption that AMD want to sell product. There is a critical failing in the logical structure here. Evidence would suggest that AMD have transitioned to a late stage capitalism model of generating hype for profit and have transcended such mortal concerns as physical transactions or monetary gain for tangible benefit.
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holy shit what is wrong with you people, spamming threads about being unable to buy a pc component
ID: guphyptyou’ve been whining about this since ~140 days ago. i feel like dropping the topic would be a good idea
ID: gupicvjMaybe everyone else should stop whining, too.
ID: gupn983person who goes through someone's comments to post a witty comment is the last person I'll refer to for advice on what to or not to do
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I lost 4 hours of my life waiting for a drop. Thanks AMD !
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Jesus Christ you people have too much time in your hands. Why do you keep inflicting this suffering on yourselves?
It's been obvious for months that you're not going to be able to buy any of these products from anywhere. Just grow up and stop whining about it.
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AMD has been hard at work researching better ways to frustrate their customer beyond belief via the webstore.
This was their latest move and it was brilliant! I feel like a fucking schmuck.
I wonder what they'll do next week.... can't wait.
ID: guq2unxmy guess: captcha that can't be solved
ID: guqsahnAnother one?
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Why does AMD even bother selling stuff directly? Is it even worth it at this point?
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You guys are literally complaining about AMD not sticking to a fixed time.
Newsflash, they are doing that on purpose so different people have a chance of potentially getting a card.
ID: gupbmyha non-fixed time favors bots even more than a fixed time, because bots don't care about sleep, they don't care about timezones, they can watch a webpage for changes 24/7 and strike the moment stock becomes available which can not be said for most humans. Even if AMD decided that not sticking to a fixed time was in the best interest of the consumer, which I would disagree with, my issue once again is not them doing something, its their lack of communicating of those changes. If they want to do random drops throughout the week, then they should just outright tell us instead of creating a pattern and then just randomly breaking it without any communication. -
They have 5800x and 5950x on sales now.
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I got in today's drop at AMD.com, about 2 hours ago. I got a RX 6800XT for $649. It popped up on Discord and was in stock for about 30 to 60 seconds. I did the captcha checkbox, paypaled it, and got it. No special tricks or bots used. This was more graphics card than I needed tho, I was actually looking for a 6800 or 6700, but no complaints since I'd be willing to pay up to $700 for a 6700XT.
The other cards popped up shortly after, 6900XT and 6800 for a bit, and the 6700XT stayed up for at least a couple minutes. Looks like the captcha is working.
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Got a 6800XT today. ReCAPTCHA enabled for add to cart. ~3:00 EDT drop time. I saw the drop about 5-10 minutes before the stock checker bots.
引用元:https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/mry5u0/what_exactly_happened_yesterday/
In Europe or elsewhere "add to cart" never became avaible too. Atleast as long you visited the regular website. The add to cart buttons / captchas only where avaible if you were using scripts, and even then nothing happend if you clicked them/solved the captchas.
Just FYI.