Would a 5600 processor be a significant upgrade over a 2700x processor?

1 : Anonymous2021/07/10 15:00 ID: ohk9kd

Hello everyone, friends brother in law is thinking about upgrading his current build: rtx 2070 super, 2700x processor, 32gb of ddr4 at 3000mhz, and a 550 watt power supply. My main concern is how much power is the new chip going to use. This is mostly for gaming and light streaming as he is just now getting into it. He says that he might take out more money for the 5800x but i really don't think it will make as much of an impact. Also, should he upgrade coolers for this? He has the basic cooler that came with it but that was around 3 years ago. Are the new ones better and updated?

2 : Anonymous2021/07/10 15:11 ID: h4pierx

Yes, substantial gain on single core performance.

ID: h4qhf7w

Yep and also the fact that they did away with the bottle neck that the previous Ryzen CPU's suffered from.

3 : Anonymous2021/07/10 15:38 ID: h4plsft

He will definitely notice the upgrade in a lot of single player games like assassin's Creed or cyberpunk. Zen(+) still tend to tank below 60fps in certain areas and zen 3 obviously won't. I noticed major differences from 1600 to 5600. Like major. Like no more lag/stuttering, no more sub 40 fps in certain areas, finally my Vega 56 being fully utilized etc.

That being said, it's up to the person if he thinks it is worth it, if he actually notice a CPU bottleneck in games or not (like me).

4 : Anonymous2021/07/10 15:23 ID: h4pjsx9

The Wraith Prism, the cooler that came with the 2700X, should be good enough for a 5600X.

And the 5600X was already close in multi-core performance to a 3700X, so it should be better than a 2700X.

In gaming, the 5600X would be quite ahead of the 2700X. In competitive shooters (1080p, low settings), the difference is probably huge, even with a 2070 Super.

5 : Anonymous2021/07/10 15:41 ID: h4pm5he

Purely gaming?

It'll net you about an average of an extra 25% FPS @ 1080p, about 5%-10% @ 1440p and not much extra at 4k.

ID: h4pqp1d

Only thing I have to add is the gpu matters too. You see less gains with mid-range gpus and lower. Hardware Unboxed posted a video this week revisiting the 2700x in 2021. I advise checking it out. The gains will be good for a 2070 super at 1080p and 1440p but not at 4k. It uses less power than the 2700x therefore generating less heat so the cooler and power supply are fine.

ID: h4prart

Whilst I agree, the tests I've seen were all with the same hardware and software.

It's clear from the drops from 1080p, to 1440p, to 4k eventually have diminishing returns on FPS gains - but that's normal.

6 : Anonymous2021/07/10 15:02 ID: h4phcor

Hardware Unboxed recently covered this very topic.

ID: h4pri9t

And the written review that some of us prefer (myself included).

ID: h4pjbkw

They only compared the 2700X to the 5800X, 10700K and 11700K not the 5600X.

ID: h4pm9u3

In most games most of the Ryzen CPUs perform generally the same. Slight edge to the ones with more cache but roughly similar.

Even without the video the answer is the same. It will be a significant gaming upgrade

7 : Anonymous2021/07/10 15:11 ID: h4pifsn

power shouldn't be an issue, 5600x uses less than 2700x, 5800x about the same.

But yeah, I agree that there won't be much difference, unless he upgrades his GPU as well. Well it depends on what kind of games he plays, if it's like emulators and something like starcraft then the difference will be substantial.

About the cooler, stock coolers that come with new AMD cpus didn't really get any better. Actually, from 5000 series only 5600x comes with one in the box, the rest don't even include them. Stock cooler for the 2700x is decent I guess, I'd only consider upgrading to make the PC run more silent. He should probably change the thermal paste and clean the cooler if he had it for 3 years.

8 : Anonymous2021/07/10 15:42 ID: h4pm7lk

5600x is a huge upgrade in terms of gaming performance, similar for productivity tasks

ID: h4qjho8

This all depends on what resolution you game at… 1080 and you can expect 30% FPS uplift. 2k and you’ll see 2-5% and 4K there will be little to no difference and the GPU will bottleneck so hard…

9 : Anonymous2021/07/10 15:11 ID: h4pic4e

Single core will definetly be up noticably on the 5600x, multi similar i think due to lower core number. If upgrade, id take the 8 core again (or even more), downgrading corenumber is not recommended nowadays (if it ever was). Something more than stock cooler is always recommended on the 5800x (if it itself even comes with one) because of boost duration and noise. Check if the gpu might be the bottleneck already first, it will almost certainly be after an uprgade to 5800x

10 : Anonymous2021/07/10 15:34 ID: h4pl96s

2700X still pairs well with 2070S. I would say don't worry about updating the CPU until you have a bigger GPU.

11 : Anonymous2021/07/10 15:26 ID: h4pk7ai

It's going to be a big upgrade in terms of single core performance. In terms of multithreaded performance the difference will be much less noticeable due to the core count difference.

The 5600X should use less power because of its lower TDP rating (while the actual stock power limit is higher than the advertised TDP, high TDP does mean that the stock power limit is higher) and in fact there is no CPU on the AM4 platform that will use more power at stock than a 2700X.

The stock cooler that came with the 2700X is called the Wraith Prism and it's decent but not amazing. I personally replaced mine with a tower cooler due to noise but if he's fine with it then he can continue using it. The stock cooler that comes with the 5600X is inferior to the Wraith Prism.

If he wants to stream I do think going for the 5800X makes more sense.

12 : Anonymous2021/07/10 15:34 ID: h4pl9sw

What game is he playing that he wants more fps? How much more fps is he trying to get? In fps 5600x vs 5800x is almost non-existent for a pretty big 33-50% increase in price depending on where you go.

13 : Anonymous2021/07/10 15:42 ID: h4pm9e0

I think it would be a good idea to spring for the 5800x atm, it's down to around $400 compared to $450 MSRP which makes the $/core the same as the 5600x also I think going from 8c/16t is 6c/12 is not great, rather going to another 8 core chip but that's just me.

Realistically, 5600x will probably make his gaming experience at 1080p high refresh rate much better.

14 : Anonymous2021/07/10 15:46 ID: h4pmrws

Yes, it would be, but don't do it. Give it a year and see if AMD does a refresh of ZEN3 architecture with stacked L3 cache. More time to wait also means more time to save some money in case it's only available for Ryzen 7 6800x or whatever they call it. It's not a good idea to do such a small upgrade now unless you REALLY need a faster single thread >right now, right here<.

15 : Anonymous2021/07/10 16:37 ID: h4ptezt

Why would he buy 8 cores to downgrade to 6?

ID: h4qu7bp

Single thread performance increase, maybe games more than does productivity things, idk

16 : Anonymous2021/07/10 16:52 ID: h4pvfth

5600x is a great upgrade for single core and games which are not really multi threaded

but 5800x is better because of games which like to take more than standard 2 cores for themselves in case NVENC is not giving you wanted results and for rendering in case you want to render something in future

17 : Anonymous2021/07/10 17:00 ID: h4pwewp

Stick to NVENC streaming and you'll be fine.

I'd recommend spending the cash and getting a 1440p monitor rather than a new CPU. At 1440p the CPU upgrade will be less beneficial, however, the 5600x will be something like 15-50% faster single core depending on the taskband your RAM.

18 : Anonymous2021/07/10 17:09 ID: h4pxgrv

Coming from a 4.9 ghz all core 8600k, it was substancial upgrade, so i would say yes !

19 : Anonymous2021/07/10 17:47 ID: h4q1ui3

I wouldn't bother upgrading quite yet. It's still possible for there to be one last refresh for AM4 before AM5 is released. It also depends on:

1) The MB used and what the vendor will support

2) The current ram kit (it makes a difference running the chip 1:1:1 at 1600MHz, 1800MHz, or 1900MHz)

3) If a future GPU upgrade is planned

That said Hardware Unboxed JUST covered this topic:

Jarrod's Tech and many others did a head-to-head of the 5600X and 5800X:

20 : Anonymous2021/07/10 18:21 ID: h4q5sux

depends on GPU, the faster the gpu you have, the bigger improvements you will see.

21 : Anonymous2021/07/10 18:46 ID: h4q8ndp

I made this exact upgrade. The 5600x is much faster in everything it does and at every resolution.

22 : Anonymous2021/07/10 19:07 ID: h4qb2z0

If you can wait for zen 4 than wait. Othewise yes a big upgrade it will be

23 : Anonymous2021/07/10 19:15 ID: h4qc0eo

For gaming, yep it should be near 40 - 50% difference. Despite it having less 2 cores, the sheer single core performance and IPC gains of Zen 3 just outshines any of Zen+ based Ryzen 2700X series even if they have more cores.

24 : Anonymous2021/07/10 19:16 ID: h4qc3sq


25 : Anonymous2021/07/10 19:35 ID: h4qe7eu

The 5600X is faster in most games, but whether or not it's 'meaningfully' faster depends on what your friend's brother is going to do, and what their tolerances are. Like, for a lot of people 110fps is still plenty smooth enough even though 140fps can be had with better hardware.

In terms of power the 5600X uses less than the 2700X

26 : Anonymous2021/07/10 19:53 ID: h4qg6i7

5800x at least, especially if streaming.

27 : Anonymous2021/07/10 20:04 ID: h4qhbqm

You should watch this hardware unboxed video about the 2700x in 2021 .

With a 6900XT the difference between the 2700x and and a 5800x is massive. Since you have a 2070 the difference should be a lot less noticeable, but the 2700x will clearly limit any better gpu in the future.

28 : Anonymous2021/07/10 20:13 ID: h4qibwv


29 : Anonymous2021/07/10 20:38 ID: h4ql185

I'm probably going to do something similar since x470 is EOL

30 : Anonymous2021/07/10 20:47 ID: h4qm0tr

Should wait for Zen4 with DDR5

31 : Anonymous2021/07/10 15:16 ID: h4piyi9

Will probably be the exact same fps in most titles. Hardware Unboxed , Cyberpunk fps

ID: h4pzv3d

I've made the upgrade from 2600 non-X to 5600x. It was a hefty upgrade. Also the 1% lows and load times were improved greatly.

32 : Anonymous2021/07/10 15:29 ID: h4pkl2l

There is no such thing.

33 : Anonymous2021/07/10 18:15 ID: h4q54iy

5800x at least or bust.

Six cores are already becoming low end. Streaming you're definitely going to want more cores. Games are already saturating all 16 threads as well and exclusively next gen games aren't even here yet. 8 cores bear minimum honestly.


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