New AMD Patent Proposes Teleportation To Make Quantum Computing More Efficient

1 : Anonymous2021/09/02 11:09 ID: pgfp5m
New AMD Patent Proposes Teleportation To Make Quantum Computing More Efficient
2 : Anonymous2021/09/02 14:29 ID: hbbj3n1

I just hope they don't trigger a resonance cascade is all.

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We've all trained for this.

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Why do we all have to wear these ridiculous ties

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Now, now, everything will be fine. We've assured the administrator that nothing will go wrong.

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Gman will put you into stasis

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If we can't get Valve to make HL3, we'll just make it ourselves

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they did though

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Lisa doesn't need to hear all of this, she's a highly trained professional

3 : Anonymous2021/09/02 12:39 ID: hbb4nz1

Its pretty good for getting to work, should be good enough for quantum computing right?

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Quantum commuting

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Seems like telecommuting. I am both at work and not at work. (Dress shirt and no pants.)

4 : Anonymous2021/09/02 12:49 ID: hbb5um3

Quantum entanglement so that you don't have to move qbits != teleportation

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Quantum teleportation is the exchange of state/information between entangled particles.

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Yes, but this news article seems to forget that. It reads as "AMD will teleport particles from one place to another," which is simply not the case.

ID: hbb6enm

Working quantum entanglement means you're a simple matter de and re-constructor away from being beamed up by scotty

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Wanted to add some clarification because this topic is going into science woo woo really fast.

Entanglement is everywhere and is common. We can already entangle particles.

The misconception people have is that there is nothing you can do with entanglement. Entanglement only describes a relationship between two particles so long as they are not disturbed by something else. There’s no way to “transfer information” using entanglement.

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And who cares about deconstruction? If you're that advanced, just take a scan and construct me where you need me, whilest I remain here.

5 : Anonymous2021/09/02 13:14 ID: hbb8u9g

And by teleportation, what does it really mean? ELI5 anyone?

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What is Quantum Teleportation?

Imagine there are two particles exist which are quantum-entangled. This means that when one particle's state changes, the other particle changes to reflect it. This happens despite the two particles being physically disconnected... at least "physically" in the conventional sense.

It is called "quantum teleportation" because the information ("what state is the particle in?") has "teleported" from one particle to the other without having to use "physical" interactions. Unlike electronic systems, there's no electrons being pushed around from one place to another, just "particle 1 changed and particle 2 changed to match it," even though they're physically separated.

How can quantum teleportation be used to speed up quantum computers?

I'm pointing out that "quantum teleportation" is not the same thing as "teleportation" because the first particle has not moved to the second location, or moved in any way. There just happens to be a second particle already at the second location, whose state can be read immediately. So while conventional electronics need data to go in, then the data is moved about through logic gates, then the data is read back out elsewhere, a quantum teleportation computer can put data in and at a different part of the computer the data is instantly already prepared to be read back out.

What's new about AMD's patent?

As you might imagine, at about the same time that physicists began to understand quantum entanglement, scientists who create computers began to think about how fast and efficient it would be if you didn't have to wait for slow-ass electrons to "move" through logic gates between the "write the state" commands and the "read the state" commands. AMD patenting their design means they're one step closer to making that dream a reality, though they're nowhere near "pick one up at your local PC shop" yet.

If quantum entanglemenet has been an idea for a long time, what actually is new about this design?

Well, a lot of ones and zeroes might tell us something useful, but a single one or a single zero means almost nothing. For the information our computer, be it silicon or quantum or even mechanical to be useful, we need tons of information. For that we generally want to be able to write / read a whole bunch at once, so similar to a multicore / multithread computer, a quantum computer will be designed to write and/or read multiple qbits from multiple particles at once.

BUT... we often don't know what information belongs in action #2 until we've completed action #1. We can't write "#2: the ball got kicked" until we've established "#1: Billy ran towards the ball and kicked with all his might," because maybe Billy kicked in action #1, or maybe he wasn't interested and didn't kick at all.

So here's AMD's actual patent...

It is actually just an engine (we don't know how it works) that will look at the work to be performed and decide what can be done at the same time, and what can't be done at the same time. It might read a incoming set of actions, "Billy put on his soccer uniform. Billy ran up to the ball and kicked with all his might. If Billy's aim was true, then the ball got kicked, otherwise the ball stays where it is. Finally, state the location of the ball." Then the engine will (intelligently) decide "Billy could kick the ball whether or not he was wearing his soccer uniform as his clothing isn't going to affect the kicking or not kicking of the ball. So we can write the Billy put on his soccer uniform qbits at the same time as we write the Billy ran up to the ball and kicked with all his might qbits; we don't have to wait for the uniform to be on for us to begin recording that he ran up to the ball. As for whether the ball's location changed, I don't know at this time - we'll have to read some "did Billy have good aim?" qbits to find out."

So instead of having to wait 4X while actions complete,

Write the information about the uniform. Write the information about the running up and kicking action. Read whether Billy has good aim. Write the location of the ball.

You only need to wait 3X actions to complete

Write the information about the uniform and simultaneouslywrite the information about the running up and kicking action. Read whether Billy has good aim. Write the location of the ball.

Even in this simple example, we've saved 1/4 of the instructions by running two things at once. That's a speed-up of 25%.

Don't we already have prediction?

Yep. In fact modern computers use it all the time, just using it with electrons passing between logic gates. They will even start calculation on both the TRUE and the FALSE paths before it is even known which path to take, then throw away the unnecessary path once they know which path was actually needed.

Which brings me to my first statement... he article just dwells on the quantum entanglemenet because the word "teleportation" sells and they need to make money. But there's no any actual teleportation going on, just standard old quantum "teleportation" present in many quantum computers. What is new is that it is being used alongside a brand new prediction algorithm that analyzes incoming data to look for things that can be written at the same time rather than having to wait for some outcome. Maybe the fact that AMD is filing for a patent means they have made a leap forward, but most likely they don't have any technological leap and just want to play Patent Wars, pushing out wobbly makeshift designs before their competitors grab similar patents and force AMD out of the same space. Patent law is broken.

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As I have understood it, you can't change the state of an entagled particle, only meassure it, which consequently collapses all the particles in the entagled system.
So in terms of transfering information, it isn't usefull in the way sci-fi portrayes it, FTL-communication and so on.

ID: hbblczd

A lot of woo woo bullshit in this thread.

Entanglement is a relationship between two quantum systems that have interacted. Basically, it means their outcomes are linked together.

You could have two entangled particles on opposite sides of the universe, and if you interact with one side and observe its state, you would know something about the state of the particle on the other end, even if they are infinitely far away, meaning that the propagation of the entanglement is faster than the speed of light.

There is no way to transfer information in a usable way using entanglement/teleportation, which is why it doesn’t violate Relativity. I’m really not sure what this patent describes, because entanglement is a wholly useless phenomenon. It’s possible the parent is bullshit or described inaccurately ; parents do not have to have sound science to be published (see the anti gravity patents published by some guy in the US gov).

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It’s not useless though is it? I’ve heard previously about using quantum entanglement for cryptography.

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The writer of the article appears to have misinterpreted the lack of explanation from AMD as a sign that they have some top-secret physical implementation of a SIMD quantum computer, when the much more likely reason is that AMD has worded everything so vaguely because they have no idea how such a system would be implemented with matter, as there currently isn't a functioning quantum computer on this planet that isn't lying or cheating.

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I guess more of in the off chance it does work at least you have a patent.

I guess some wise guy at AMD was like I can do this.

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You could have two entangled particles on opposite sides of the universe, and if you interact with one side and observe its state, you would know something about the state of the particle on the other end, even if they are infinitely far away, meaning that the propagation of the entanglement is faster than the speed of light.

i have no clue about quantum mechanics so how would this be possible/verifiable or is it just something where the math says thats how it should work for extreme distances.

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mentioned in their comment that it's quantum entanglement, not true "teleportation."

I'd google that or look over on /

to see what people have answered about quantum physics. I'm sure tons of people have asked questions about it

6 : Anonymous2021/09/02 14:45 ID: hbblfma

Does this help me running crysis?

7 : Anonymous2021/09/02 12:57 ID: hbb6qjb

What an incredible time to be alive.

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..and not alive!

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I see what you did there

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Hold on to your papers!

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Or not.

8 : Anonymous2021/09/02 15:11 ID: hbbp43s

I think that this should be called "Quantum Synchronization" instead of teleportation.

9 : Anonymous2021/09/02 15:07 ID: hbbohr4

This stuff's over my head, so when someone can explain this to a five year old or in simple laymen's terms, I'll be excited.

10 : Anonymous2021/09/02 13:24 ID: hbba78z

Isn't that the entire point of quantum computers? The fact that entangled photons can transfer information at higher than light speed?

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The main benefit of a quantum computer is that computing power increases quadratically as opposed to linearly as for binary computer for each qbit/bit. When you combine sufficient quantum qbit system with quantum algorithms you can explore the entire problem field in a single operation. You will get some false positive results that needs to be verified by traditional binary computers, but solving a handful of false positives compared to the trillions++ permutations of, say a cipher is, rather quick.

Keep in mind most people get their information from popsci sources, me included, and likely missunderstand some/most facets of quantum computing.

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You can't exchange information using entanglement.

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You can't?

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I thought that was the whole point? That you can make one photon spin and the other would, too?

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Information travels at the speed of light.

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No, quantum computing's only real advantage is the ability to directly resolve some classes of computations rather than a classical compute doing an iterative approximation which in some cases might not finish before the heat death of the universe... but a quantum computer could do it in an instant (once we have quantum computers with enough bits to do larger equations anyway)

There is also quantum cryptography which may or may not be useful... it stands to break some of the older algorithems in some cases as they may be reversible with a quantum computer of sufficient qbits.... the main limit these days is number of qbits and how many iterations before you get degradation.

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I guess I misunderstood that entirely then.

11 : Anonymous2021/09/02 14:57 ID: hbbn20n

They should focus on time travel instead. Maybe then they can fix their astronomically failed GPU supply network.

12 : Anonymous2021/09/02 14:39 ID: hbbkhdj

So-called quantum computing needs to be made orders of magnitude more efficient than at present...;) At the moment, so-called Quantum systems struggle to keep pace with an Intel 8086--or even pocket calculators. (Many of them heavily leverage classical chip technology, too--but they don't talk about it.) Right now, QC is an investor buzzword companies use to raise investment capital, looks like AMD has joined the party. The goal of solving insolvable computational problems in seconds or minutes compared to infinities with classical computing is so far off you'd need a working qc to estimate its arrival...;)

13 : Anonymous2021/09/02 16:02 ID: hbbwkjs

Let's do this very difficult thing, by doing this even more difficult thing!

Just playin', if anyone can do it AMD can.

14 : Anonymous2021/09/02 16:33 ID: hbc1aj7

So, invest in AMD. :0

15 : Anonymous2021/09/02 16:42 ID: hbc2omn

Tommy overclocked reality in his bedroom again so until things settle down in there were all sleeping in the living room.

Also we are gonna need another timmy

16 : Anonymous2021/09/02 16:46 ID: hbc39ee

Holy Sheckhen!

18 : Anonymous2021/09/02 19:02 ID: hbcnrdd

Work on quantum systems is a waste of cash. The systems are not scalable and are inherently unstable. Better to feed and house the homeless etc.

19 : Anonymous2021/09/02 19:08 ID: hbconkl

"Look Ahead Teleportation for Reliable Computation in Multi-SIMD Quantum Processor,"

Incoming Quantum Spectre?

20 : Anonymous2021/09/02 20:05 ID: hbcxb94

Just wait until

hears about this

21 : Anonymous2021/09/02 20:07 ID: hbcxl8h

Any information teleported across the space/time continuim can be accessed by any TARDIS in any mode, in any century, on any planet, in any universe. Even during regeneration...

22 : Anonymous2021/09/02 20:33 ID: hbd1kx1

Will quantum computer play Minecraft at 144 fps? I’m trying to build a new budget pc for gaming. Ty

23 : Anonymous2021/09/02 20:37 ID: hbd25j1

woah there AMD, jesus christ, save some puss for us too

24 : Anonymous2021/09/02 22:44 ID: hbdj34s

Judgment day....

25 : Anonymous2021/09/02 22:57 ID: hbdkpiv

it all seems to be dependent on a material called aquatar

teleport now

26 : Anonymous2021/09/02 23:14 ID: hbdmygq

Beam me up scotty! scotty? Scotty where are you?

Ack noo aye've gone and done it, sir. ah beamed ma whiskey straight into ma belly!


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