- Why Assassin's Creed 3 Is Still The GOAT
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"He skinned every animal he killed, desynced"
ID: hsnsfngID: hsnv9ccIt made for a more canonical reason than a health bar, though execution wasn't always perfect. It was the reason you couldn't go around murdering civilians forever. It went well w the contextual DNA synchronicity, and I enjoyed the cool factor of "your ancestor was so good at combat, he was never hit after his training. You'll lose his memories if you don't get better, because he doesn't remember being shit at fighting and leaving animal carcasses to rot."
ID: hsnvtxtI knew I wasn't gonna like it from the first mission where I was desynced for not using stealth to kill 2 soldiers in a house in the middle of nowhere "someone saw you" fuck all the way off
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The animations in early AC are still some of the best in the entire genre of games.
Despite being more mechanically fluid, newer games just don’t feel as smooth. Perhaps it’s just nostalgia but even in retrospect I feel it holds true.
ID: hsn0q1sI remember getting a bit bored with the combat of early games tho. Yeah it looks fantastic, and I got quite the kick out of brutalizing guards in front of their compatriots, but the hole “hold O and you lock into these set animations over and over and over” is a bit tiresome. If they combined these finishers with a more satisfying over all combat system it would be perfect. Honestly, I just miss the stealth.
ID: hsn15ryHard same. AC3 was the start of the trend away from stealth towards skirmish warfare. This was the last one that I get much enjoyment out of.
ID: hso0wxiI liked the Arkham series and to a lesser extent Spider-Man (PS4/5) for their mix of manual combat, which kept it interesting, and automated kills like OPs gif. I thought they did a good job in both of those series.
ID: hsn198iIn most of the ones I played this was not the optimal way to play the game. You could kill much faster by using offense as well as defense.
But yes you could ultimately just sit in block mode and wait to parry kill everyone.
ID: hsnbviwReason for that is because new combat system is more manual.
Old one - you just pressed a button and animation played out no matter what.
It's far easier to make long ass animation that do some stuff than to have combat system where you actually control the characters.
No matter how good it looks on camera - in old AC you could just stand in the middle of the street and kill like 50 guys by just doing counter. So it was one button win most of the time.
ID: hsn1vgfHave you played Ghost of Tsushima?
ID: hsnzsj1Ghost of Tsushima is the best Assassin's Creed game to come out in years.
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Loved these animations. Just don’t get these in the more recent games. I miss this
ID: hsn14oqThe thing that took me out of the early AC games was the counter combat. Stand there surrounded by 10 enemies and counter each of them as they attack one at a time. The newer games, while clearly being quite different than the original intent of the series, do have some fun and challenging fights with some of the unique/optional bosses in them. Old AC games had better stealth, new AC games, for the most part have some better combat. Just my thoughts.
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AC Brotherhood is the best of the classic AC games.
ID: hsmrh1iI loved Brotherhood but I firmly believe AC2 is the peak. That’s like a top 5 all time game for me personally.
ID: hsn3bewAC 2 was a breathtaking experience. I kept just thinking "Wow, I really LOVE this game." No other in the series has come anywhere close for me.
ID: hso2fy1Venice and Florence.. The story felt REAL and immersive, not bullshit with their recent games.
My god, the tombs were spectacular. Not to mention Jesper Kyd's music just gives me goosebumps
ID: hsmx6vzCompletely agree. I had more fun in 2 than any other AC game.
ID: hsmrvnhTo me AC is a proof of concept, AC2 was the actual first game, and Brotherhood was the peak. Then revelations was just fine, 3 and 4 were better but still not quite as good.
ID: hsnhyk0At least AC 2 or brotherhood, but 3 is actually pretty damn low on my list
ID: hsnilxbThe multiplayer was SO good.
ID: hsn3kf6I think brotherhood had an amazing multiplayer. I used to play that so much.
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To bad 99 percent of the game is trailing missions
ID: hsnzbojW H E R E I S C H A R L E S L E EID: hsntitsthe worst kind of mission.
ID: hsodsgsAC3 was my first AC game. My first console game as an adult at 30. On the WiiU
Basically it had New York, Boston, and a giant forest inbetween.
Well guess what? I didn't know fast travel was a thing until I was 80% done the game.
Every fucking mission when going from New York to Boston, I would travel by horse through that whole damn forest.
Then I did the underground tunnels in Boston or whatever and it explained Fast Travel. Couldn't believe it lol
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Cool animations but Black Flag = GOAT.
ID: hsmz551Nothing beats pirate simulator. I don’t even really like AC games and I still play that one
ID: hsn0g3tSo many people have the same feeling and still we have yet to see anyone capitalize on making a similar pirate game. Only thing that seemed closed was that canceled Pirates of the Caribbean game.
ID: hsn0t7gWell that’s why you like Black Flag then lol
ID: hsn6pzdAgreed, I worked on the mocap team for this game, and it was by far the most fun to build the props and sets for.
ID: hsnvykyThat’s rad, any fun stories to share?
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While it looks cool, it was more cinematic than gameplay. You just pressed a button and the guys would summon up 10 years of combat experience to pull off demi god tier moves. I always liked watching ac gameplay, never particularly cared about playing it.... Not that the new games are good though
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Isn't AC3 considered the worst of the series?
ID: hso0ljpFor me it's the one that made me not want to keep playing them, and I loved AC1, 2, BH and Rev
ID: hsofk90Why would you kill off Desmond for NO PURPOSE. He dies and doesn't even solve a plotline with his death because Juno is still on the loose and laughing about how she killed Desmond. It was like the cutscene you get when you die in a Boss battle except it was the actual canonical ending to Desmond's 5 game story arc. Fuck Ubisoft man they fucking ruined what Assassin's Creed could have been
ID: hso6djqI attribute that more to the story, particularly the ending, which kind of took a shit on all the previous build up of the prior games. The gameplay itself was fun. The world it was set in was fun.
ID: hso8mrwFor me, absolutely. It's the only one I started but didn't finish.
The open-world traversal markup was super inconsistent - in a game where so much of the character control is contextual based on that markup, that lead to a lot of frustration when Conor did the opposite of what I was telling him to do.
The stealth markup was shit too; more than once, I failed a mission because he just fucking stood up and got spotted, despite being in one of those stealth-bushes that are supposed to be concealing.
I think the thing that annoyed me most at the time was all the failable optional objectives, that I would fail more often than not because Conor didn't do what I told him to. The "Character doesn't do exactly what he was told" was a problem since AC1, but it was seldom enough in every other entry but 3 that I didn't mind it.
Also, 3 was about where I lost patience with the whole Templars-vs-Assassins framing fluff. After 3, I just ignored it so it didn't bother me as much. Really they should have thought of other names for the organisations as soon as they left the Third Crusade setting - the only setting where they didn't feel contrived and out of place.
For context - I gave up on the series after Unity. That was plenty for me. I finished the story but there were just so many icons left on the minimap; that's when I decided Ubisoft's whole approach to Open World was based around fundamentally not respecting my time. Didn't go for another Far Cry after that either.
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AC2 will always be the GOAT.
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Ac3 was the one where I decided the franchise was no longer enjoyable to me.
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I share this unpopular opinion.
The rope dart - tree limb - hanging combo to start a fight like this was fuuuuuuuuucking siiiiiiiiiiiiiiick.
ID: hsnien3Also building the settlement. First attempt at Black Flag style naval combat. Better online. Better Desmond segments. Also a phenomenal protagonist who got shafted by removing his best monolog that ties his whole story up.
ID: hso0oueThe only thing I remember about the rope dart was unlocking it randomly late into the game and thinking "why the hell am I still getting tutorials just let me play the fucking game." I actually enjoyed AC3 a lot more than what seems to be the general consensus but it took ages for the game to actually start. The prologue as Haytham, Connor's childhood missions, then his training montages with Achilles. It literally takes like 6 hours just to beat what is essentially the tutorial and unlock the true full open world, it's kind of absurd and makes playing it through a second time after beating it very painful.
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It’s just a shame that Connor has about as much charisma as a particularly charming plank of wood
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Have to respectfully disagree friend.
3 was one of the worst imo.
Whiny/sassy Connor was the worst protagonist imo.
Personally, black flag was my favorite because I liked the characters and the naval life.
But I think we can all agree the Ezio series is the GOAT of the Assassins creed catalogue. In particular, brotherhood.
ID: hsnnjnlYeah I was surprised seeing AC 3 being called the GOAT when I remember after it's release the complaints about not just the character but it was an unfinished buggy mess at release and was never fully fixed.
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But you can do all this in black flag and its a better game so really that one is the GOAT.
I enjoyed 3 but it definitely isnt as polished as Black Flag.
ID: hsn4zlgAssassin's Creed 3 was totally rushed to release it before the 2012 end of the world day as it was part of the plot
If they didn't care about it I think the game would have been one of the best of the franchise
ID: hsnpc5dAC3 is one of the more poorly received of the franchise. Some parts of it were really good but other parts were really bad, especially the story direction, both inside and outside of the animus. AC3 being the "GOAT" AC is a super hot take. Definitely felt rushed.
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And now I remember one of the reasons I didn't like this game as much as I wanted to.