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Was considering the Steam Deck until I opened my closet and found a dusty Steam Link and Steam Controller. Anyone else worried about Steam's long-term support?
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At least it's just a PC at the end of the day. If Valve give up on it, and I kinda figure they will, you'll still have a whole PC to do PC stuff with.
ID: h5o12cuID: h5o3ai0That's because they were PCs too. PCs always become obsolete. That's just the nature of the platform.
ID: h5oy1m0You can still use the hardware, people just want new shit, that's like expecting the PlayStation 2 to be just as "useful" as the PS5.
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The steam controller is great. And it is still supported, just not manufactured anymore.
Steam link worked fine, it was very niche. I actually used my laptop as a homebrew steam link, and the software worked flawlessly.
The products weren't bad, they just weren't needed.ID: h5oli26i still hope they make a new controller tho, the steam controller was pretty amazing.
ID: h5onhqxI use my steam controller and bought an extra for myself in case this one dies.
ID: h5ovziaOnly it was flimsy and shabby and there is a reason it ended up dusty in people's boxes, cupboards or even trash cans.
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Support in what sense? It’s a PC. It’ll be fine until it eventually becomes obsolete due to hardware. Not sure what support you expect from Valve beyond making it? Sure, they’ll probably continue to improve Steam OS, assuming you don’t install Windows in the Steam deck. PC games will run on it until they become too demanding, as it happens when any machine gets old.
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and why exactly? what of those is no longer supported? are they unusable for some reason?
ID: h5oy5bhHe thought this post would be easy karma.
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Wouldnt expect that they give up on it (at least not in about 3-4 years). Producing a handheld (or in this case a mini pc) plays in a major different league then building a controller or something like steam link. Even with the budget of valve its nothing you produce and abandon in 2 years or so.
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It's still a PC at the end of the day, if they end support you can still use steam OS or what ever OS you install on it and still use it. I am waiting for reviews to come out and if it's worth the $400 I will use it instead of waiting for GPU prices to come down for my HTPC build. The worst thing will be how that battery will do in the long run and even then you can pop the deck apart and take that out hook it back up to the dock and just run it that way till the hardware is dead.
If it's not worth it I will buy a used laptop and connect that to my TV and a dongle for my USB devices.
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I still use my steam link, works great no stuttering or anything
ID: h5owfvhI use mine daily and love it. Best $25 I ever spent.
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I'm a bit more hopeful considering the index. Though I really hope it has less quality issues.
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Personally I'm more worried about QA issues given the problems the Index had/has.
I will also say support is a problem given its a custom chip so who is doing the drivers? Valve or AMD? Because I have had drives fix so many problems the most recently one was Biomutant where it ran horribly then was fixed with a driver update.
Like this is a PC in terms of development so who is doing the drivers and how long will that support last is a very important question.
ID: h5oxyzgwho is doing the drivers
probably AMD linux devs since their drivers are part of 'nix, iirc (most of it in one/some of the mesa packages); I'm sure AMD would want any RDNA2 / APU work mainlined for their other products, existing or planned.
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I bought my Steam Controller the day it was discontinued, and support for it has been great.
Buy a Google product the day it's released, and you'll be lucky if support lasts as long as the design life of the product.
No, I am not worried about Steam's long-term support.
ID: h5oe8opThere's always one of these guys. You could write a post complaining about lead water lines and some A hole would comment praising it.
It reminds me of those guys that praise that half dead cloud gaming service.
ID: h5ok1gwThat has nothing to do with what I said. Valve discontinued the Steam Controller because there wasn't much adoption for it, which is to say that it wasn't a very good product, but despite discontinuing it, they have continued to provide support for it, and it works as well with new game releases as it ever has.
Even Steam Machines were quickly dropped by the manufactures, but Valve kept supporting the platform, to the point that the Steam Deck uses the latest version of the same software.
Say what you want about whether Valve's hardware meets market demands, or is even well designed, but they will continue to provide software support long after any other large company would have.
ID: h5omrkkYou're talking about yourself?
ID: h5omviqLay down the keyboard old man
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My own opinion: I think the Steam Deck has pretty much future proofed themselves. I mean you can have windows, android, Game Pass, you can emulate on it (from what I've read). So if suddenly Steam stops backing it or something you could always turn it into something else.
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My Steam controller and Link are still in the box. Used both once but the implied use case for both devices aren't bad ideas. When I used the Steam Link, I was getting all sorts of stutter issues and the Steam Controller was just hurt by not having two Analog sticks. I used the Steam controller to play a couple non-controller games like Diablo and Doom (classic) and it wasn't bad.
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you found two great products, good job.
Steam link is still updated, and exists as software now.
Steam controller is still updated and supported.
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What long term support?
ID: h5o0zceI assume OP means new revisions like a steam deck 2 with (made up APU)
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The coming conversations:
Now: HYPE EXPRESS SWITCH KILLER CHANGE THE WORLD
Upon launch: Look, it's got problems, of course, but let it get broken in first, every product stinks at first
1 year later: Well, the Deck didn't work out, but it was a paradigm shift that changed everything.
2 years later: Who remembers these? What a strange thing.
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Just set expectations super low and have hope it won't be like past Steam Hardware. Never buy anything like this at launch.
ID: h5o1529The steam machine is a good example as to why not, even though I have one but well under the value for the fun of it.
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I used the steam link for years until I could use steam app on my 4K Apple tv
The controller was terrible
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Yeah I wish they'd just go back to making games lmao
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the steam controller is just….. no
ID: h5o333mI'm using it to play The Witcher 3 at this very moment. It's pretty good.
ID: h5o146xHaha I tried so so so hard to love it.
ID: h5on4m8I use it for controlling my computer from my couch. The onscreen keyboard is really cool, I wish other controllers had something similar. I can type as fast as I can on my phone.
Plus, I use my computer as a media center, the steam controller bakes a mouse and keyboard into one pretty comfy product.
I don't really use it to play a lot of games, or anything that counts as intense.
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Steam deck is a PC with a PS4 level GPU. It's got an 800p screen and a future dock accessory that will let you render on a screen....but this is no 4k device.
It will be your handheld potato machine and most people will prefer to game on a larger screen that this thing will be hamstrung by. No the GPU can't run a higher power envelope and deliver 4k, the GPU has a max throughput of a PS4 not-quite-pro. It seems that the talk about it being RDNA2 based somehow makes it comparable to a PS5 and it absolutely does not.
Steam deck will be gathering dust in the same year it launches.
ID: h5oykjkYeah dude, cuz graphics and frame rate are the most important thing right everybody else?
Totally no benefit in being able to use a portable PC, I cant think of a time that I have ever wanted to play a video game, on the go, without my 1000hz 8k TV.
Tell me you never leave your house without telling me you never leave your house.
Go touch grass.
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Itll be shit.
Steam is only any good as a game store cos they stumbled upon the idea first. It's basically the only gamble they played that worked out, now everyone else is playing catch up to the online store.
Have always thought the store needed a makeover. It's an ugly design, like the Steam Dock, its ugly.
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From what i've been reading with the Steam Decks post these still recieve updates.
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In going to take the "Wait and see" approach to the Steam Deck. I think it has the potential to be great but Valve doesn't have a great track record when it comes to their hardware.
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Ayyy lemme get that steam link
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the design looks super clumsy, and oversized by at least 33% (handels and screen bezels) , the chineze alternatives are already on a second or third generation, more compact and have a full mobile laptop ryzen cpu in them and a full windows OS, the third gen guys will get my money when this next failed valve prokject thing drives base models prices down while i will enjoy reading about all the hithces n glitches the first gen 1000 euro scalper buyers will be reporting
ID: h5onkqdBro, have you ever held a Switch for more than like half an hour? My hands start to go numb and cramp. This is basically a Switch with one of those comfort grip accessories. The majority of the 'dead space' is actually makes it comfortable to hold.
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I still have that crap of a Steam link but I can't use it because I lost the adapter. Yeah Im skeptical of Valve's releases. It's hype one day then closet junk the next
ID: h5oxvquI had a look at mine and it's a 5.1V 2.5A radial connector. Doesn't say what size it is and I don't have a way to measure (G?), but if you have one of those universal DC adapters lying around, you can probably make it work.
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I try not to worry about things that don't exist
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Yeah, I guess, but we also did this with Steam Boxes too which I would argue haven't stayed useful.