Would an AIO benefit me or be a waste of money at this point?

1 : Anonymous2021/04/04 15:54 ID: mjyuj4

I'm running a 3600x with the coolermaster hyper 212 black edition. It seems to have performed fairly well for the price. I'm averaging just above 60c with spikes up to 73c while playing Warzone according to hwinfo. Idle temps and light load seem good as well. I'm never spiking up to 60c really. My case has pretty good airflow, Corsair 4000d airflow. Warzone is the most demanding game I play really.

Would switching to an AIO give me any noticeable thermal gains and would I see any better boost performance off that if so? I used the paste that came with the cooler.

From everything I've read here these thermals are normal and safe so there's worry here about thermals. Just wondering about any performance gain I may or may not be missing out on. I live in Arizona and summer is coming. We keep the apartment around 25c with AC on.

Thanks for your input. I'm new to ryzen and appreciate any feedback.

2 : Anonymous2021/04/04 16:03 ID: gtcwehk


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3 : Anonymous2021/04/04 16:05 ID: gtcwmmt

Absolute waste of money, your current cooler is more than capable.

ID: gtcx4gh

Thanks for the reply. I've been looking at them lately and will just stick with this build. Appreciate your response!

4 : Anonymous2021/04/04 19:09 ID: gtdi4av

73 C isn’t hot enough to reduce boost clocks, if you start going over 85 C it would make more of a difference.

5 : Anonymous2021/04/04 16:08 ID: gtcwy5v

Save the money

ID: gtcxcqx

Will do. Running an RX 480 so I'll save and wait for the GPU market to stabilize. Thanks!

ID: gtcxwp0

Just a lil more explanation. Zen2 processors are bottlenecked on memory access, there's minimal fps increase (1-3 on average) with frequency as you can see from benchmarks (3950x or the xt refreshes perform the same in games). Thermal and frequency ain't the way to improve gaming performance so you're good if the cooling's decent enough. Premium cooling ain't gonna get ya much

Zen3 on the other hand scales much better with frequency in gaming

6 : Anonymous2021/04/04 16:17 ID: gtcy39a

Thats very decent. I have the corsair 240mm aio think its h100i?

Its about 55c gaming 27-30c idle

ID: gtcz01a

Very nice. I was looking at the Corsair h100x or Arctic liquid freezer 2. Based on the feedback here I think I'll just stay put for now.

7 : Anonymous2021/04/04 16:12 ID: gtcxg9p

You will see zero performance gain in-game. I personally prefer AIO, but in reality they perform no better than a good air cooler and carry a risk of damaging your system if the pump or a seal fails. Having gone the air cooler route, unless you wanna spend the money to see, or you do not like the aesthetics of the air cooler (both valid reasons) there is no reasons to change.

ID: gtcxp8t

Thanks for your reply. I like how the cooler looks with my build and will stay put. AIOs look cool too so maybe I'll switch it up when I upgrade my CPU in a few years for fun.

ID: gtenh73

A quality 280 or 360mm AIO will outperform any air cooler.

8 : Anonymous2021/04/04 16:18 ID: gtcy7gb

whats your all core boost clock? if its too low for you an aio can help

ID: gtcyc8n

I'll check it out next time I'm gaming. Thanks for your reply!

ID: gtcyxvm

use cinebench its more reliable to tell

9 : Anonymous2021/04/04 17:00 ID: gtd329n

Unless noise is your issue, temps are fine and I wouldn't bother spending any $.

10c drop wouldn't get you much for the $ spent unless you're trying to get 100+mhz more boost.

ID: gtdf95c


ID: gtdii4q

Agreed, tho my h115i with ML fans didn't need to crank to the audible or vibration inducing rpm.

The audible thing is when you hear your pc in recordings. I threw Noctua fans and a U14s in my build, not I get street noise in my recordings.

3600 won't have the thermal footprint to worry about unless OP has a golden sample cpu and is pushing it at a max all core clock.

Key is using something better than the box cooler, that thing is bad.

10 : Anonymous2021/04/04 17:33 ID: gtd707k

In short, yes, it would be a waste of money.

For reference, this is what my 3600X does on decent custom water with PBO + AutoOC:

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2 cores boost to 4525MHz @ 38-40c, all 6 cores will run at 4425MHz in games @ around 46-51c, and in all core heavy workloads it runs at 4300MHz at 56-63c.

But what do those numbers actually mean in the real world? Not much. It can translate to a much quieter PC, and that's about it.

The extra performance is only measurable in synthetic benchmarks. I'd probably be lucky to achieve 5 more FPS in a CPU bound scenario than a 3600X on stock settings with the stock air cooler, which is also suffocating to death at 90c in an NZXT H500.

Where your money would be better spent is not on cooling, but on good RAM if you don't already have some. You won't notice a performance difference between a 3600X boosting to 4225MHz at 75c in games and a 3600X boosting to 4425MHz at 50c in games. But there is a noticeable difference between 3200MHz CL16 running with XMP, and 3600MHz+ CL16 RAM with tightened secondary timings and running in a dual rank config.

11 : Anonymous2021/04/04 17:50 ID: gtd92e6

These thermals are absolutely great for the 3000 series. Unless you're concerned with noise, there's absolutely no reason to touch your cooling system, as others have said.

If you are concerned with noise, then I suggest getting an NH-D15S instead of an AIO. It's expensive, but not as much as AIO, and it will be cool and completely silent. Your case should fit it without any problems, as it has 165 mm height, and the 4000D Airflow supports up to 170 mm.

ID: gtdknw5

Awesome. I'm not concerned with noise at all.

12 : Anonymous2021/04/04 19:19 ID: gtdjbkf

Better to invest the AIO money into a 5600X(or 5600 once it arrives) if you want to see some gains in Warzone. The difference between 3000 and 5000 can be like 30-50FPS in that game, well atleast that what was the difference for me going from 3800x to 5800x. Trying to improve the thermals will only net u like 2-3fps at best

13 : Anonymous2021/04/04 19:03 ID: gtdhgno

I got a 3600X and an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 and my Cinebench R23 all core max is 66 C, if you need any reference. Case is a Lian Li O11 Air with 9 fans and a 3080 FE.

14 : Anonymous2021/04/04 21:27 ID: gtdy1op

You will see 5...10* degrees max improvement. I went that route. More for astetics.

15 : Anonymous2021/04/04 22:25 ID: gte4ho2

I have the same cooler with 4.3ghz all core overclock maxing at 65c. I’d say its already overkilled for a 3600. Though AIO is likely to be more silent and also looks neat, performance wise probably miniscule or negligle differences.

16 : Anonymous2021/04/04 23:33 ID: gtebv4r

It'll do nothing noticeable. At max 1%. So maybe you'll go from 100fps to 101fps on average.

17 : Anonymous2021/04/05 02:02 ID: gterlwf

AIOs in general are a waste of time and money. Even after doing the research on which AIO is worth buying (nothing below 240mm, good manufacturer), you only get a couple of degrees improvement in temps vs an air cooler of the same price.

The points of failure in an AIO are also numerous compared to an air cooler, for which the only possible fault is the fan, and that's easily remedied.

18 : Anonymous2021/04/05 02:05 ID: gterzju

No, but if u really want the looks of AIO, go for 240 above

19 : Anonymous2021/04/04 19:29 ID: gtdkhl5

If you want to spend money on something that lets you get higher frames in games, buy some good B-die RAM and overclock it.


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