I gained almost 1000 points on Timespy rolling back my drivers. (rx 6800)

1 : Anonymous2021/04/06 11:49 ID: ml9t6o
I gained almost 1000 points on Timespy rolling back my drivers. (rx 6800)
2 : Anonymous2021/04/06 16:25 ID: gtl2ro2

I've got 14407 with the 21.3.1 drivers.

Ryzen R5 3600 Asrock B450M Pro4 Gigabyte 6800 XT Rage Mode on -- it does seem to do a slight boost, at least in benchmarks, compared with it off SAM on
3 : Anonymous2021/04/07 00:40 ID: gtmvdiz

RX 580, driver updates introduced insane stuttering into games, fun.

4 : Anonymous2021/04/06 23:15 ID: gtmle1s

Drivers is the number 1 reason i switched to Nvidia after experiencing the for a year 5700 XT since launch

ID: gtn1ma4

Planning on doing the same. Are Nvidia's drivers better?

ID: gtnnb2w

No not really LOL. I do like my 3090, though. I'm currently living with night light breaking every time I enter a full-screen application and my second monitor's wallpaper being in the wrong orientation every time the monitor is turned back on. I also had a lot of freezes on release drivers but haven't had them since.

5 : Anonymous2021/04/06 22:31 ID: gtmg483

Tbh I rolled my drivers back to the first November patch and everything runs flawlessly. For me, the first February patch destroyed the performance of many of my games. For example I go from 140fps on battlefieldv down to 70-80. Same with battlefield 1. Warzone drops from 200 down to 130. All first person shooters take a massive hit while others seem to stay the same. So, all patches after and including the first February patch somehow make my fps games run like crap.

6 : Anonymous2021/04/06 23:54 ID: gtmpxv7

I had to roll back due to video driver crashes after the latest release, feels bad man

7 : Anonymous2021/04/06 13:41 ID: gtkh0kj

Someone here with a vega 56 can confirm if there is performance regression on this old GPU with the new drivers?

ID: gtkol9s

RadeonPro Drivers 21q1.1 is the best for RX Vega at moment, adrenalin 21.3.1 anda 21.3.2 is bad for RX Vega's and Polaris too.

ID: gtm59ea

any particular reason why this driver is better?

ID: gtkwsdw


ID: gtlu5eq

vega 56

old GPU

cries in RX 580

ID: gtm4to6

fury x

ID: gtnplbf

RX 580's are going for 400-500$ on the used market at least here locally, be glad to have *ANY* GPU on hand. :p

I also second OP's post that the newest drivers broke my rx 580, in some particular games (war thunder and dead by daylight), if I looked at the part of the game map with the largest amount of objects- even if they're far away, buildings/foliage/trees, FPS dropped from ~60-100 to ~6-10, if I turned away and looked the other way it went back up to 60-100... Reverting to mid-2020 drivers fixed that within a single reboot....

ID: gtm4jy6



I have a Vega 64, but same architecture, so the performance difference should be the same.

Basically, it's within margin of error of being no change. I noticed the CPU score went up the most on the update, so perhaps there are optimizations that reduce CPU overhead.

Edit: FYI, these scores are with no overclock/underclock applied, with the default factory profile.

Edit 2:


ID: gtm8018

And my meaningless score with my overclocking profile applied.


And with 21q1.1

I note little to no difference, in spite of all the claims to the contrary.

8 : Anonymous2021/04/06 18:53 ID: gtln7kc

In my case, I went from 110 fps (21.2.x on FF14 to... 20-30 fps with 21.3.1). I rolled back to the previous WHQL driver (20.11.2) to get back a playable framerate. Same for Ethereum mining (I mine a bit between gaming sessions, I'm not a full time miner), went from 62 MH/s et 55 MH/s, same undurvolting profile.

The 21.3.x branch is a mess, I don't understand how it went through QA, and even less how it got its WHQL certificate.

ID: gtlz6fk

On what card?

ID: gtnqdrk

Had similar performance on my rx 580- in games it went from ~100-200 FPS at low settings to ~5-10 fps if I looked at a crowded game area with lots of objects, even in the distance.

I also mine a bit when I leave my PC during the day, and noticed that the mining performance itself didn't degrade, but was extremely unstable, it would take 5 full reboots to apply my undervolt/overclock profile in MSI Afterburner (and it often completely crashed my motherboard and would trigger overcurrent protection and I'd need to power cycle my PC for a good 45 seconds), that undervolt always worked like a charm just a week ago (I only updated to 21.3.2 then)- sometimes the GPU would crash mid-overclock application and I averaged about 25 driver timeouts in a day.....

I had maybe gotten 1-2 in the 4 years I've had this GPU, this is a pretty record-breaking amount of driver issues for me...

9 : Anonymous2021/04/06 21:23 ID: gtm7sqi

I get you. Bought a 5700 xt at launch. Never had a single black screen, flicker and definitely a BSOD even when the drivers were notoriously bad. Update to 21.3.2, had 6 BSODs in one day. DDU the drivers, install the drivers again, 2 BSODs the next day. But since I reinstalled Windows, everything has been fine. Not really sure how to explain it at this point.

10 : Anonymous2021/04/06 20:08 ID: gtlxmxq

I recently picked up Chronicon (which is extremely light on the gpu) and was playing just fine for a few weeks. Booted it up one day, game is running half speed at 30 fps. After much digging, I found out the gpu was not boosting clock rate correctly, and added a profile for it set to a not-insanely-low gpu clock.

11 : Anonymous2021/04/06 23:55 ID: gtmq3a3

Yeah, I'm gonna roll back. I'm getting random lockups. I've even reinstalled Windows to no effect, clean driver install, etc.

21.2.X the consensus for stable?

12 : Anonymous2021/04/07 02:52 ID: gtnakpl

Eh. Doesn’t really mean much. You’d be better off testing the fps of a few favorite games in a before and after.

13 : Anonymous2021/04/07 03:06 ID: gtnc40n

What drivers did you roll back to? I have a RX6800 and i've tried so many drivers now I don't know what's what anymore. This card frustrates me.

14 : Anonymous2021/04/07 09:12 ID: gto3fg4

Wow, a friend of mine just had allot of problems with his card and we couldn't understand why. And now I randomly find a reddit post about this. Thank you 🙂

15 : Anonymous2021/04/06 11:51 ID: gtk5b1e

Why such a degradation in performance with the latest drivers?

They're also extremely unstable. Radeon Adrenline 2020 refuses to open some times.

I'm new to AMD gpus, is this the norm? having to dig around for good drivers for my card? (I'm now using the 21.2.3 drivers)

ID: gtl9gcr

6900XT on 21.3.2 here, not noticing any issues. I did DDU prior to installing the new drivers though.

ID: gtkbmic

It's just the latest two driver updates (21.3.1 & 21.3.2) that royally messed up things, I've had no real issues before, particularly RDNA 2 since launch week. Adrenaline not opening up sometimes is unfortunately a more common & long standing issue, easiest fix is to go to task manager in details and kill radeonsoftware.exe.

ID: gtll1an

It refuses to open for me too after a few hours on a fresh boot of Windows, but I was under the impression that it was TDR issue with my Radeon Settings. This is with 21.2.2 drivers.

ID: gtncoym

Been using AMD GPUs forever and rarely run into issues but 21.3.1 is buggy. 5900X and a 6800XT and I can't manage to even reach 20 FPS on Yakuza 3 Remastered when there's a lot of NPCs on the screen even on the lowest settings resulting in the game being in slow motion . It wasn't like the GPU or CPU are maxed then either.

That said DDU and 21.2.3 managed to clear the issue up.

Hit that issue when I upgraded last weekend. Might give 21.3.2 another go to record the behavior and submit some reports to AMD tomorrow.

17 : Anonymous2021/04/06 14:43 ID: gtkp0vc

Yes for some reason 21.3.2 cause my rx 6800 clock to stay at 2100-2200 range which result in lower performance. Manually changing min frequency to 2350 and max frequency to 2450 fix it though. If this happen while running time spy it would explain the drop in performance.

18 : Anonymous2021/04/06 21:11 ID: gtm65oo

I'm on 21.1.1 because any other version makes Destiny 2 run at 8fps. Yes, 8. With 21.1.1 it runs at fairly much locked 144fps at 1440p.

AMD's drivers have always been a dumpster fire. Only using the 6800 because it's the only GPU I could get that wasn't a dorito, and my 1080Ti was on it's last legs and also wasn't terribly stable with my FreeSync monitor.

19 : Anonymous2021/04/06 22:19 ID: gtmep0f

D2 was likely a fuckup on Bungies Part:

/comments/lr759l/wanna_know_about_destiny_2_with_driver_2042/gruoxhd?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3" class="reddit-press-link" target="_blank" rel="noopener">https://www.reddit.com//comments/lr759l/wanna_know_about_destiny_2_with_driver_2042/gruoxhd?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

20 : Anonymous2021/04/06 20:42 ID: gtm2b3q

so relevant right now

21 : Anonymous2021/04/07 08:21 ID: gto0dw8

It really is battered house wife syndrome

He brought me flowers and called me baby, see he still loves me. Don't worry officer I walked into a door.

22 : Anonymous2021/04/06 18:08 ID: gtlh193

at least your gpu didn't stop working after the update lol

23 : Anonymous2021/04/06 19:07 ID: gtlp3en

Getting some random crashes in Overwatch, all other games seem to be fine. Have not tracked any sort of data to confirm performance decreases. (Using a 6800XT)

24 : Anonymous2021/04/06 20:19 ID: gtlz2r5

Release drivers for 6800 XT were just fine. Every game just worked and I let the gpu mine at night so I can buy games with bitcoin. That worked no problems as well. Current drivers crash on mining all the time and most games seem to have weird jitters here and there.

Ps. Here's my result:

25 : Anonymous2021/04/06 22:27 ID: gtmfqgo


26 : Anonymous2021/04/06 22:39 ID: gtmh3so

Total score doesn’t matter

GPU score does

This is misleading

27 : Anonymous2021/04/07 05:52 ID: gtnql6l

CPU didn't change and neither did anything else, I'd understand if it was within 5% margin of error, but this is much bigger- and OP also responded with GPU-only numbers in the comments.

28 : Anonymous2021/04/07 06:56 ID: gtnv1ac

But they haven’t? I can’t see scores anywhere from OP

29 : Anonymous2021/04/07 00:38 ID: gtmv6nm

Update chipset and bios too. I was having stability issues all over the place until i did these things. All problems disappeared.

30 : Anonymous2021/04/06 21:10 ID: gtm62wp

Also try disabling Amd's radeon software, fucking tanks your cpu score

31 : Anonymous2021/04/06 15:06 ID: gtks36z

for my rx560 it was stability in OC which changes with drivers

with 5600xt it is frametimes

i used 20.4.2 with rx560 which was fine because it allowed me to run 1325 core and 2050 mem with stock voltages plus freesync worked

now with 5600xt i use 21.3.1 and frametimes are really smooth and freesync works no issues

now i need stronger psu to oc my 3800x and 5600xt combo since 520w ain't cutting it and that psu would have a use in future

32 : Anonymous2021/04/06 16:57 ID: gtl7a4w

520w is plenty for that combo

33 : Anonymous2021/04/06 21:38 ID: gtm9pzc

Same here. I went back windows 8.1 and got almost 20 frames more. Butter smooth with all the less over head

34 : Anonymous2021/04/06 23:19 ID: gtmlter

That's strange as I have a rx 6900 xt and don't see any difference between the drivers.

35 : Anonymous2021/04/06 23:20 ID: gtmm1ca

Oh god. Just bought a 6800xt for exorbitant prices.. are drivers a mess or just for artificial bench?

36 : Anonymous2021/04/07 03:17 ID: gtnd6ic

I’ve had a 6800xt since January 1st playing games like COD Warzone, COD Cold War, Rocket League, Rust, MSFS 2020, DCS World and have had zero issues. Absolutely nothing. I also didn’t get any degradation in performance with the newest driver.

37 : Anonymous2021/04/07 03:22 ID: gtndq64

Thanks for this! Have you played around with undervolting or left it stock?

38 : Anonymous2021/04/06 23:25 ID: gtmmmxi

The main issue is instability for me, sure the card isn’t performing as well as it does with previous drivers as seen in my OP but the constant driver timeouts. Black screens and Adrenalin refusing to load is what is taking its toll. Just see if you get lucky with the latest driver as some posting in this very thread have had, if not I’d try rolling back to 21.2.3, they’re the best I’ve found after hours and hours of trial and error

39 : Anonymous2021/04/06 23:28 ID: gtmmxwk

Hmmm that sucks. I have a Vega64 and have never had driver issues in all the time I've had it. I've heard Nvidia owners are having driver issues of their own. Sounds like an arms race with no QA..?

40 : Anonymous2021/04/07 03:02 ID: gtnbo7c

Holy Monkey!

41 : Anonymous2021/04/07 05:32 ID: gtnp4zp

Some of my games would crash/be very unstable on my RX 580 with the newest drivers... All problems went away when I went back to mid-2020 drivers .__.

42 : Anonymous2021/04/07 06:16 ID: gtnsbln

So as I’m sitting here thinking of getting a 6800xt what you’re saying is AMD still ruins everything with their drivers and I need to Nvidia?

43 : Anonymous2021/04/07 06:47 ID: gtnugt3

Is this why some older titles have recently started playing like ass? I have a 5700 flashed with the xt bios, and specifically GTA V and Assassins Creed 4 have been running at ~30fps recently. This is strange, because I'm able to play Cyberpunk, Far Cry 5 and some other more recent titles without a hitch. I thought it was the bios update on my mobo so I rolled it back and didn't fix it. Maybe I should roll back on these drivers.

44 : Anonymous2021/04/07 06:47 ID: gtnuh29

Aged like moldy yoghurt left out in the sun 😉

45 : Anonymous2021/04/07 06:52 ID: gtnurfy

Installed 21.3.1 with V56, swapped it out for a 6700XT. Everything has been working smoothly thus far (including Timespy etc with scores where they should be).

46 : Anonymous2021/04/07 07:18 ID: gtnwhjt

My 6800 run almost 10 degree Celsius hotter than normal after the update (RD2)

47 : Anonymous2021/04/07 07:32 ID: gtnxeqa

Same thing with the gtx 970, performes worse after 399

48 : Anonymous2021/04/07 08:03 ID: gtnz9rr

I love my 3600X but man am I always staying the fuck away from AMD GPUs, I want to think 0% when it comes to having a plug and play GPU that has no driver issues. I have seen way too many horror stories here, fuck that. My 660ti, 1060, and now 2070 have had 0 issues with any and all driver updates.

49 : Anonymous2021/04/06 20:52 ID: gtm3ou2

Call me ignorant or stupid, but do you play videogames it video editing? Did performance increase in those or are you getting errors in games?

I'm not defending AMD or anything, but complaining about one application to measure performance when said application may not have been the main focus of AMD driver team. If all you do is run Timespy then report an issue to AMD. Maybe try a game.

50 : Anonymous2021/04/06 21:37 ID: gtm9jhz

I have multiple games to test but timespy was the easiest to bench as it saves my scores.

Stability is my main concern. Black screens, crashes, driver timeouts, Radeon Adrenalin not working, drivers uninstalling themselves. All in the space of a couple of days, now back to the previous driver and it’s working amazingly well as it was before for 2 months.

51 : Anonymous2021/04/07 13:23 ID: gtoollt

Okay, thank you. I wasn't trying to be an asshole, just wondered if you only care about Timespy and not the other areas you just mentioned


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