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I'm not entirely sure if I can post this here, so please don't be mad if I shouldn't have, but I have a dilemma which I've been stuck on since Zen 3 was released. So I currently have a R5 2600, and it's fine don't get me wrong, but for video editing and streaming it could be a lot better. I know I want a Ryzen 7, the extra cores and threads would go a long way, but I don't know whether it's worth me saving some money and going for the 3700x or if the 5800x is that much better? I'm going to be upgrading my mobo to a B550 with bios flashback so compatibility isn't an issue.
Any advice is appreciated 🙂
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Aside from price, 5800x wins in every workload
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Aside from price and availability, I believe the 5800X wins in pretty much every other category.
ID: gudbi40ID: gudc7e4Yeah that's something that I was thinking about too, because I've heard that it runs pretty hot too, so I would need to get a new cooler if that's the case. I don't suppose you have any suggestions do you?
ID: gud8jwfYeah, it does look really good. Not to mention the gaming capability! Very much looking forward to upgrading to something better than my R5 2600
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Zen 3 offers quite an improvement in single-threaded workloads, at least in gaming. I even sidegraded from an almost newly-bought 3700X to a 5600X, although I need a better GPU before I can feel the effect of this.
If you can afford it, go for the 5800X any time.
ID: gud87j5Yeah I get that, I was thinking about also getting a 5600x, it does seem like a really good CPU, but because it only has 6 cores so I knew I'd have to go for a R7 for what I want to use it for. What did you upgrade from, might I ask?
ID: gudb7zp5600x is very close to 3700x in multicore workloads.
ID: gude8c9Not upgrade, sidegrade. As I've said, from a 3700X to a 5600X.
Before the 3700X it was an FX-8320, but that's another story.
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If you don't want to feel buyers remorse,get the 5800x
ID: guf5rxbDo you think I'd have big regrets if I were to get a 3900x over a 5800x?
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What about a 3900X? Might be cheaper than a 5800X.
ID: gud7vmbYeah, that might be a good idea, I hadn't thought about that to be honest. Thanks!
ID: gud9cedJust had a look on PC Part picker, 3900x is about £40 more expensive:/ thanks though! 🙂
ID: gudbdtgIf that's the UK, I see them at £393 the 5800X and £396 the 3900X on PC Part Picker. For gaming at 1080p the 5800X would be much better though.
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You can always check benchmarks comparing the two
ID: gud7qk7Thanks! I did have a look, and the 5800x does on paper seem much better, but spec sheets and real world use are different:/ And the price is like 1.5 times as much as a 3700x so idk if it's going to realistically be worth that much
Thanks for replying btw! 🙂
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What's your mobo? Perhaps you could keep it with 3700x for the best value.
ID: gud8ze7At the moment I have an asrock b450 pro 4, which is fine, but I need some more USB ports on the back, and pcie gen 4 is always nice. I could just keep hold of it and go for the 3700x, which would save a lot of money at the end of the day. You make a good point, thank you 🙂
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Wait for better prices or get the 3900x
ID: gudpr9uThanks for replying! And yeah, prices rn kinda suck, but I was thinking about a 3900x too after some other advice on here, though there's not much price difference, but you get a fan with the 3900x which is nice. I couldn't get either rn anyway so hopefully when I have the money one or the other will be better priced and I'll most likely go for that one.
ID: gudr50dNice and you not go to regret
I have the ryzen 3900x 🙂
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My 5800x gives way better frames than my old 3700x. My GPU was never working 100% but now with the 5800x I got way more GPU utilization. Depends on your gpu and resolution. Also depends on your budget, 3700x is 200$ less
ID: gudz6ooWhat GPU and resolution are you using? I looked at 4K on 3700X vs 5800X and the difference is tiny due to being GPU bound. 1080p and 1440p see bigger benefits.
ID: gue270d6900xt and 1440p 144hz. Massive improvement in BeamNG, R6, Squad and more
ID: guf2mmcSo atm, I've got a 1660ti, but I'm gonna upgrade that after I've got my other parts, and I'm using 2 1080p monitors at 60Hz, which is fine but I also wanna upgrade those, but for editing and streaming no problems at all. I do wanna get 2 1440p monitors when I do upgrade though
ID: gudwws1Oh nice bro! That sounds like a really nice upgrade! After some other advice in here I'm more likely to get a 3900x over the 3700x, and so it's a toss up between the R9 and R7 5800x, but depending on what's cheaper when I come to actually buying one will be the one I get. But I do really want a 5800x, that gaming performance looks so good! Thanks for replying btw 🙂
ID: gudx7pqIf it’s only for gaming, the 5600x might be better than the 3900x. Ryzen 5000 have better IPC and it helps a lot in games that don’t use all available cores. And the 5600x comes with a stock (albeit not the best one) cooler.
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Wait and stretch you budget to a 5900x when possible. 5800x is not worth it for the price right now. Or maybe you can try to wait for the APU's maybe the prices will come down.
ID: guef2fkYeah that's a fair point tbh, I may do that, depends how much things go for when I have enough to buy my new parts. Thanks for the advice btw 🙂
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I owned a 3700X and going to a 5800X was a noticeable step up (Look at my posts, I made a comparison).
Hell, I'd take a 5600X over a 3700X if I was budget constrained. At least for gaming.
Due to the bad press it got a 5800X can be had around 420 bucks now and is in stock. It's pretty neat (Personally I wanted a 5900X at first, but it got cancelled by the retailer after 4 months of waiting. Grabbed the 5800X instead and it's an awesome chip).
ID: guef8obOh dude nice! That sounds amazing! For me it's a toss up between the 3900x now and the 5800x, just depends on what's on a better deal really
ID: gueilwnI mean for anything gaming a 5800X blows a 3900X out of the water.
Productivity the 3900X wins, if you do rendering for example. So workloads that scale perfectly up to 24 threads.
But the 5800X is no slouch either, guess it's up to you to decide if gaming or productivity is your main focus.
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5800X + ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO. Don't let the relatively low price of this cooler fool you it performers way above its price point especially for CPUs with highly concentrated heat output just like the 5800X.
ID: guf6awoThank you so much! You might've just saved me a ton of money! 😀
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5800x is a superior CPU, but it's considerably more expensive than a 3700x. So it depends on how much that 15% or so performance gain is worth to you. Plus the 3700x is a fairly cool running CPU, doesn't need a high-end cooler. The one it comes with is entirely adequate albeit rather noisy.
If a difference of $120 plus a high-end cooler is too hard on the budget, get the 3700x. If the added expense is not an issue, get the 5800x.
ID: gufarupYeah that makes sense, in all honesty my budget will probably end up being how much I can save from work and how long I can last with a sub par CPU for what I need, do you think a 3900x might be a good idea? Considering that it too comes with a fan and has comparable workstation performance to a 5800x? It would be used for video editing, streaming and gaming. Thanks for replying btw 🙂
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The single thread performance and latency optimizations in Zen 2 are totally worth the premium assuming you can get the 5800x at msrp.
ID: gufbc2oYeah, you make a good point, it does look like a big performance jump between the 3000 and 5000 series CPUs, atm there's one on PC Part Picker for £393, but I'd need to buy a cooler as well, but that doesn't seem so bad. But then again, for £396 there's a 3900x which does come with a fan, which do you think is more worth it?
ID: gufcklwIf you’re willing to get a new motherboard a 10850k for ~$380 is very competitive with a $450 5800x or $500 3900x.
5900x at msrp would be ideal but usually out of stock.
Overclocked, a 10850k/10900k (@250w) is close to a 3900x (@140w) in multi core and beats the hell out of it in gaming. Definitely less efficient though.
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I upgraded from a quad core intel CPU to a 5800x in December and am absolutely in love with it. Thus far I’ve had incredible performance in games, handling multiple streams and displays, and my mechanical engineering modeling software. I paid a scalper to get one on launch day and I’m not even mad lol.
The only way I would recommend another CPU is if you anticipate a lot of video editing or other multithreaded workloads that would require more than 8 cores. To your question specifically, I would say go with a 5800x or 3900x over the 3700x. The extra hundred bucks will be worth the newer tech with a 5th gen Ryzen or the extra cores of a Ryzen 9 in the long run.
ID: guda0deWhoa dude that's a serious upgrade! I'm glad you're enjoying your CPU 😀 and thanks! That sounds like really good advice, I do a lot of video editing and I do streaming so having extra power would be so helpful! Thanks for your insight 🙂
ID: gudb93uI’m sure you’ve done a good deal of research already, but if you haven’t checked out the GamerNexus review of the 5th gen Ryzen chips I would recommend watching the review of the 5800x. They go into pretty good detail about the benefits and compromises you’d be making with the choice. Obviously a big knock on the 5800x has been the pricing, but in the current market I think the $450 USD price tag is looking a lot better.
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5800x doesn't come with a cooler so that might be relevant to some. It's also going to need something better than what a lot of people on older cpu have in place already.