Resident Evil 0 and 2 same Umbrella Facility?

1 : Anonymous2021/03/29 13:56 ID: mfq3ga
Resident Evil 0 and 2 same Umbrella Facility?
2 : Anonymous2021/03/29 15:45 ID: gsp589v

They're the same facility. The factory and lab are located in a wasteland area on the city's outskirts, close to the cliff which the training school is atop of. The cable car in 0 runs down diagonally outside of the cliff and towards the factory. The treatment plant is built beneath the cliff within a giant limestone cave where there's a river with a groundwater vein. All three facilities are very close together.

A myriad of factories that had been built in a desolate wilderness on the outskirts of Raccoon - these abandoned structures were bathed in the light of the full moon in the sky, floating blue as if wet in the darkness of the night.

It was indeed a station, an underground cable car station. There was a car right in front of them, hanging from its thick cable. Apparently someone had built the chapel right above a cable car system that stretched between the steep face of this mountain side to some old rusty factory, which crude buildings could be seen a few hundred meters away in the semi-darkness.

ID: gsp6t65

Oh makes sense

3 : Anonymous2021/03/29 15:40 ID: gsp4hl1

There's also a save room after taking the tram right before you do the Birkin fight on the lift (in RE2) that's in both games.

ID: gsp4neg

Really? That's weird

4 : Anonymous2021/03/29 14:53 ID: gsoyhxu

Yes. It's the same facility. Though i never understood how they got from the Arklay mountains to underneath Raccoon city. Also the lab at that point should be brimming with people as it woulda veen before the outbreak occured in RE2

ID: gsp02q5

Exactly there should of been people there.

ID: gsp4tod

The lab isn't under Raccoon City, it's in a wasteland area on the outskirts, which is close to the executive training school. Both are about 8 miles outside the city. The training school is atop a steep cliff, and the factory/lab are at the bottom of that cliff some hundreds of meters away.

You get to the lab using a cable car that runs down diagonally outside of the cliff and towards the factory.

ID: gsp5ivc

So then in RE2 Leon/Claire travel about 8 miles when they exit the sewer system to get to the lab then?

ID: gsp17vd

It's because its not the same place

(Edit: Your downvotes mean nothing to me beyond making me think I'm right. There's no evidence from the devs that the labs are supposed to be the same.

Besides, RE0 has so many plot holes and lore inconsistencies for a being a prequel that it makes me seriously question whether it should be cannon or not)

ID: gsp4nyp

It's the same place.

5 : Anonymous2021/03/29 16:45 ID: gspd1ls

It seems messy at first due to fans not getting the full picture.

We don't really know where NEST is in the games. It's described as being on the city outskirts, and there's a chemical plant above it which is far enough away to support a large rail yard, so a few miles seems OK though.

RE0 introduced the idea into the games that this facility, apparently NEST itself, is further into the mountains than we would have thought from 2 (which, again, only really said it was in the outskirts which is vague enough to work) and is now revealed to connect to other facilities, which is fine. It only contradicts the fan idea that NEST is beneath the centre of Raccoon City, which is The Hive in the movies - not NEST. I see a lot of letsplayers make that mistake in their commentaries.

So, why is it dilapidated? Probably down to the artists taking their own liberties, though it's quite possible the upper level façade was seriously in need of maintenance anyway and got a repair job after the treatment plant was destroyed.

ID: gspdfyc

That is true Re2 says it's on the outskirts but your right that Re0 makes you think it's deeper in the mountains. Well I'll definitely have to play Zero soon. I've played 1, 2, 2remake, and almost done on 7 and will pre order 8. Then I will continue with the the rest of the series.

6 : Anonymous2021/03/29 21:23 ID: gsqdhfg

RE0 doesnt have any significant holes in its plot, contrary to popular belief.
It has a plot somewhere inside its holes.

ID: gsqdlrc

Oh I get it

7 : Anonymous2021/03/29 18:15 ID: gspp358

Whenever I replay RE0 and leave this part , I always think: "No Rebecca, go back,, you're so close to the fun game"!

ID: gspqcly


8 : Anonymous2021/03/29 14:47 ID: gsoxsk0

Because re0 is before re1 and yes it is the same facility

ID: gsp0ifl

True although you go here in Resi 0, in Re1 it blows up at the end and Re2 takes place after 1 so how is the facility here in Re2?

ID: gsp1fkk

Wasn't RE0 set in a replica mansion?

9 : Anonymous2021/03/29 15:14 ID: gsp15n5

No, it is not. Is the same design but it is not the same lab as the one under Raccoon City

ID: gspv6pb

i don't think so, even the factory is identical

ID: gsqcbcf

Yeah it’s the same, not sure why he got upvotes but he’s wrong.

10 : Anonymous2021/03/29 14:57 ID: gsoyz4f

It most likely is but it doesn't make much sense for it to be, so I just like to say it's a different facility.

RE2R makes it easier to believe this since the lab looks a lot different.

ID: gsozocp

True it does look a lot different. I guess your probably making a good call in calling it a different facility maybe they just reused that screen.

ID: gspnukd

If I'm correct, I think the devs used that environment as a nod/easter egg to RE2. It's meant to be a fourth wall break because if you try to go through any of the doors there it'll say something like "You've already searched this place".

11 : Anonymous2021/03/29 15:02 ID: gsozm5t

There's no good answer for it.

Either Umbrella had two nearly identical facilities or they had a magic railcar system.

ID: gsp2lpk

Yeah I guess they had 2 identical facilities so pretty much they just reused the design

ID: gsq0hk4

Hell, how many spencer mansion replicas have there been in the series? Umbrella isn't exactly known for shaking up the architectural world once they find a design they like.

12 : Anonymous2021/03/29 13:57 ID: gsorna9

Was just watching my brother play Resident Evil 0 and I noticed this. However this facility was destroyed after Re1 and Re2 is not the same facility therefore why is this room the same?

ID: gsozi5e

Re zero takes place before re1 and re2.

ID: gsoyg3s

I think it is the same facility, and the cable car Rebecca takes took her decently far away from the training center. That is why the training center blew up without the facility being blown up too

ID: gsozty4

That makes sense so the training center blew up but not the facility itself.

13 : Anonymous2021/03/29 15:48 ID: gsp5nn0

It's not the same place

14 : Anonymous2021/03/29 20:12 ID: gsq4ewt

Nice post I always thought it was coincidence

ID: gsq5xcx

Thanks yeah I noticed it right off the bat. It was just so noticeable and it's hard not to remember that area.

ID: gsqrud7

I just remember zero being super hard, and the last time I played it was on game cube. And right now I'm stuck at the giant centipede part because I'm all out of ammo, and I am probably going to have to restart

15 : Anonymous2021/03/29 21:14 ID: gsqcf55



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